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Child didn’t get a party bag

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JandamiHash · 15/01/2025 14:37

Hosted my son’s 8th birthday on Sunday. I sent out invitations in December and made it clear when people had to get back to me (7th Jan). We hired a magician and included personalised party bags that the magician makes himself - they have each child’s name on the stuff inside and it also included a magic wand and some of the tricks he did on the day so the kids could try themselves at home. They were a quite expensive addition but I didn’t mind as I thought it was a nice touch. I also ordered Domino’s Pizza and just enough for the partygoers as again it can be very expensive.

One child whose parents didn’t RSVP turned up. The mum is a bit of an Amanda (as in from Motherland) and has form for being a bit of a PITA. I did say “Oh you didn’t RSVP, it’s absolutely fine to stay but sorry I don’t have a party bag for James, just to warn you.” She looked annoyed and just said “I did RSVP didn’t I?” And checked her phone before saying “Oh dear I forgot. What a shame he won’t have a party bag.”

She then told me James is now vegan like her (was previously vegetarian). I said “Oh sorry there are no vegan pizzas ordered”. Again she looked annoyed and said how it would be awful not to feed him, so I said it was fine I’d call dominoes now to add one onto the order. She shared it with him and took the leftovers home. I was pissed off, if that was me I’d have at least ordered one myself for my child, but this woman is deeply entitled and a massive CF. I would never leave a child without food though and feel like I did the right thing.

Anyway I’ve had a text today to say how upset James is that he didn’t get a party bag, apparently the other kids are all bragging about their magic tricks that they’ve learnt with the party bag stuff and he’s feeling left out (she is forever messaging the mum’s group moaning he’s left out and nobody is his friend and expects us all to prioritise this with our own kids) and that I should have had spares.

I haven’t replied but WIBU to tell her that she should have RSVPd and the only person answerable to her son is her and her DH for sloppy organisation, and that plenty of children in the class didn’t attend the party. Also that I made reasonable adjustments for the food at my own expense. DH thinks I should send my bank details and ask for the extra £10 the vegan pizza cost!

OP posts:
HollyKnight · 16/01/2025 02:05

Lostcat · 16/01/2025 01:55

So you’re still plugging the life lessons angle eh?

Listen if you want your son’s party to provide life lessons in disappointments for kids with CF parents, far be it from me to interfere. You do you. (Not sure what the lesson is? You have a crap mum?)

Personally when I throw parties I just want the kids to have a bit of fun . I always get a couple of extra party bags and a bit of extra food for contingencies, as I wouldn’t want any kids turning up and missing out and RSVP mishaps with kids’ parties are a big thing.
Where I live this is normal pratcice, but apparently on mumsnet this is very controversial and against feminism , the planet, human dignity and child development!! 😆😆😆 I consider myself schooled!

Edited

I know whose party I'm going to turn up uninvited to! You have been warned. I'm low-carb btw.😂

Lostcat · 16/01/2025 02:08

SouthLondonMum22 · 16/01/2025 02:03

But he still would've missed out because it wouldn't be the special personalised magician one.

Even without a party bag, he got to watch a magician show and eat pizza with friends. I'm sure he still had plenty of fun.

👍🏻

ElderlyPerson · 16/01/2025 02:09

@Lostcat

"Personally when I throw parties I just want the kids to have a bit of fun . I always get a couple of extra party bags and a bit of extra food for contingencies, as I wouldn’t want any kids turning up and missing out and RSVP mishaps with kids parties are a big thing."

Did you miss the bit about Personalised party bags. Would you have ordered bags for all who were invited - even those whose mother did not RSVP?

OP probably had plenty food - James is a vegan. Would you have food for vegans, vegetarians, coeliacs etc just in case?

ifIwerenotanandroid · 16/01/2025 02:38

JandamiHash · 15/01/2025 20:03

Anyway - I’ve had a reply!
I’m not biting. As much as I want to

Well, I have never been to a child’s party where the hosts haven’t had a contingency plan for extra children arriving. This is a normal part of planning. If this had been done then James would not have been excluded from getting a party bag.

I've just done a 'see all' & read your posts & I want to say thanks for the laughs!

My reply to her reply would be 'Well, you have now, so there's one thing you can tick off your bucket list'. But a dignified silence is probably best.

Ilovelifeverymuch · 16/01/2025 02:45

JandamiHash · 16/01/2025 00:53

This is rather a low blow when I’m talking about my actual son’s disease. But you go ahead and make fun of it.

But to answer you… why can’t kids toughen up? Why can’t the small things be used to show kids that sometimes life is unfair or they don’t get what they expected? That they are lucky in many ways and perhaps some perspective and acceptance wouldn’t go amiss?

Is that so horrific?

You're spending too much time arguing with strangers, you don't need to justify your actions, there's nothing worth spending 4 pages going back and forth, end it and move on.

And btw I think you did the right thing and if I was in your shoes I wouldn't even respond to the message she sent the next day about her son being upset.

Bansheed · 16/01/2025 03:19

Holy Moly, what a thread. OP, I have enjoyed your thread and your responses.

And the reminder that the batshit crazy, really do walk amongst us.

PoppyRoseBucky · 16/01/2025 05:00

Lostcat · 16/01/2025 01:55

So you’re still plugging the life lessons angle eh?

Listen if you want your son’s party to provide life lessons in disappointments for kids with CF parents, far be it from me to interfere. You do you. (Not sure what the lesson is? You have a crap mum?)

Personally when I throw parties I just want the kids to have a bit of fun . I always get a couple of extra party bags and a bit of extra food for contingencies, as I wouldn’t want any kids turning up and missing out and RSVP mishaps with kids’ parties are a big thing.
Where I live this is normal pratcice, but apparently on mumsnet this is very controversial and against feminism , the planet, human dignity and child development!! 😆😆😆 I consider myself schooled!

Edited

Oh, give it a rest.

Obviously, the OP hasn't deliberately "failed" to provide a party bag to this specific child to teach him a lesson in resilience.

If you had any reading comprehension and weren't just being a goady fucker (or maybe you're a CF like the mum in the OP's story) you would know that.

OP hosted a party for her DS's birthday. 5 people failed to RSVP. Of those 5, one parent decided that the appropriate thing to do was to crash the party and act all dumbfounded that her vegan child wasn't catered for and an expensive, personalised party bag wasn't provided for him.

Sure, maybe the OP could have had a couple of spare party bags lying around. However, what if all 5 of the children turned up? Or other children whose parents gave enough of a shit about them to RSVP turned up with a sibling and those couple of spare party bags get given out? How many spares would you consider suitable so poor little James doesn't go home empty-handed?

OP hasn't done anything wrong. She provided every child whose parent bothered to RSVP with a personalised, expensive party bag. She went out of her way to purchase an additional vegan pizza for James when they decided to crash.

The OP hasn't gone out of her way to teach James an important life lesson. She simply didn't know he was attending due to his mother's ineptitude. However, does that mean that this isn't an opportunity for Amanda to allow James to be disappointed and help him build resilience? To show him that sometimes, his parents can make mistakes and that he's not always going to get what he wants.

He's 8. At what point, do you suppose a child of 8 years of age should be taught that he's not going to get everything that he wants? Kids are allowed to be upset, and disappointed and feel a bit left out. They don't need to be coddled from that forever or else you're going to raise nightmare adults who are entitled (like Amanda).

This isn't about OP teaching James anything. This is about Amanda refusing to allow her son to be disappointed and trying to rope other parents into catering to that.

shuffleofftobuffalo · 16/01/2025 05:15

Gosh I've enjoyed reading this thread. I would have gone tuna sweetcorn mayo for the jacket spud.

Love your attitude OP and completely agree James and his disappointment were not your responsibility.

Competitive underheating really tickled me 😂

Nonaynevernomore · 16/01/2025 06:04

Lostcat · 16/01/2025 01:55

So you’re still plugging the life lessons angle eh?

Listen if you want your son’s party to provide life lessons in disappointments for kids with CF parents, far be it from me to interfere. You do you. (Not sure what the lesson is? You have a crap mum?)

Personally when I throw parties I just want the kids to have a bit of fun . I always get a couple of extra party bags and a bit of extra food for contingencies, as I wouldn’t want any kids turning up and missing out and RSVP mishaps with kids’ parties are a big thing.
Where I live this is normal pratcice, but apparently on mumsnet this is very controversial and against feminism , the planet, human dignity and child development!! 😆😆😆 I consider myself schooled!

Edited

Now why aren’t I surprised that it’s common for your circle of children’s friends parents to be flakey and forget to send RSVPs, or most likely keep their options open to until party day.

Birds of a feather and all that.

You’re another cheeky fucker that decides to turn up under the guise of “oh I’m so disorganised, I forgot to take 30 seconds to respond, to a party invite”.

And if they don’t make my little “James” happy by preempting that he may arrive and provide a space for him, then that’s on you and not my lax parenting.

Please tell me, if you’ve booked an event that means a numbered amount can attend, do you leave a couple, three, four paid for spaces in case a few James or Jamesess decide they’ll show up as nothing special to do or 30 second RSVP “forgotten” to be sent.

You and your children’s friends parents are teaching each other with disrespect, teaching your children that they can decide on the day if they’ll attend the party and treat others with disrespect, which are both wrong.

Yet, you’re having a continuous pop at a mother who is reaching her child to not allow themself to accept disrespectful behaviour.

Think on about teaching yourself and child boundaries.

arcticpandas · 16/01/2025 06:18

Lostcat · 16/01/2025 01:35

No one thinks it’s on OP to “fix James”. It’s just a party bag. why is mumsnet so full of extremes? It’s nutty.

If you are throwing a kids’ party, get a couple of extra party bags, just in case , so kids aren’t left out . That’s all it is.

They’ll still survive in the workplace honestly! And they’ll leave your party jolly 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

But why get extra party bags? Surely it's for the invited kids? If not invited, no party bag. It's logic. If CF bring extra kids I would say no to that as well to teach my DS not to be a doormat. He's always kind and inclusive but when you have a party with invitations you have the right to only serve invites.

Zanatdy · 16/01/2025 06:22

Seriously some posters on here are mad. £12 a piece why should she get spare party bags just incase? They are personalised anyway, so even if OP did get a couple of non personalised bags, this crazy mother would have complained. There would have been little point OP making up a few non personalised magic trick bags as James mother would still be complaining. She is a cheeky bitch.

Did James mother not even think about food? As the mother of a vegan should she not have thought oh I didn’t let host know about his dietary req? She just shows up without replying and expects his dietary req to be catered for. If you’re a vegan, you need to let people know for appropriate catering.

Finally James mother can easily resolve this by ordering a party bag for him. Unbelievable she is trying to guilt trip the host into ordering and paying for this. Absolutely no way would I, and I’m usually very flexible about this.

Lobsterteapot · 16/01/2025 06:23

Fuck me this thread is wild.

Think you’re absolutely right op and @Lostcat is barking.

Extra personalised party bags (how does that work then?) and extra provisions for flakey fuckers. Just no.

The actual real grown up world doesn’t work like that - I’ve had to RSVP to a professional dinner this week - no RSVP no chicken dinner. The end,

People need to take responsibility for themselves and not blame everyone around them for their own shortcomings.

Emmaheather · 16/01/2025 06:29

isthesolution · 15/01/2025 14:43

Awww I'm sorry James is upset and making you feel guilty; don't be too hard on yourself though, we've all forgotten to reply to an RSVP before. The party bags were supplied by - xxxx - their contact details if you want to surprise him are.....

Great response

MJconfessions · 16/01/2025 06:33

JandamiHash · 15/01/2025 22:42

DH has offered to go and post a packet of bacon through her letterbox 😂 I think it’s best to leave it entirely now. As tempting as the drama is!

James won’t be getting invited to future parties. Sad for him but entirely on his mother to buck her ideas up

Why bacon? Does she not eat pork or something cultural where posting bacon is relevant? I don’t get the joke

HorrorFan81 · 16/01/2025 06:34

MJconfessions · 16/01/2025 06:33

Why bacon? Does she not eat pork or something cultural where posting bacon is relevant? I don’t get the joke

She's vegan

MJconfessions · 16/01/2025 06:37

HorrorFan81 · 16/01/2025 06:34

She's vegan

Okay, I don’t understand why posting pork to a vegan is funny? You can tell OP hates this woman.

thepariscrimefiles · 16/01/2025 06:37

@HollyKnight OP's son was left out of James's party. The dad told OP that they didn't have room for OP's son. James was lucky to get an invitation to OP's son's party after that.

Fundays12 · 16/01/2025 06:46

Wow OP there are some cracking comments from a few other posters on this thread now.

I mean seriously I think the only people that would expect you to have the psychic power of knowing James was coming to the party and to have a party bag ready for him are those who don't bother to RSVP and expect other people to still accommodate them 🙄. James parents messed up by not RSVP that is not and will never be your issue. You already did as best as you could to include him.

Anyway please keep us informed on any Lazer eyes on the school run this morning. This thread has turned into Party bag Gate lol.

Saveusernsme · 16/01/2025 06:52

We’ll handled OP! RSVP is the only way to guarantee a place at the table. Some of these comments are very unreasonable- maybe they are persistent non RSVPers. What if OP had received NO responses? Would you have expected her and her DS to stand at the party venue on the day, waiting and hoping on the off chance the kids would turn up? Totally unreasonable.

thepariscrimefiles · 16/01/2025 06:56

Lostcat · 16/01/2025 01:00

I wasn’t making fun of your son’s disease. I was making fun of your suggestion that we shouldn’t give out spare party bags to toughen children up.

Edited

But you completely brushed it aside, without even a perfunctory 'sorry to hear about your's son's illness, that must be really hard' comment while continuing to focus all your concern and sympathy on a child that didn't get a personalised party bag.

HollyKnight · 16/01/2025 06:57

thepariscrimefiles · 16/01/2025 06:37

@HollyKnight OP's son was left out of James's party. The dad told OP that they didn't have room for OP's son. James was lucky to get an invitation to OP's son's party after that.

Edited

🤷🏻‍♀️ Yeah. And her son doesn't even like him. Dunno why she bothered to invite him at all. I thought birthday parties were about the birthday child.

Lostcat · 16/01/2025 06:58

Nonaynevernomore · 16/01/2025 06:04

Now why aren’t I surprised that it’s common for your circle of children’s friends parents to be flakey and forget to send RSVPs, or most likely keep their options open to until party day.

Birds of a feather and all that.

You’re another cheeky fucker that decides to turn up under the guise of “oh I’m so disorganised, I forgot to take 30 seconds to respond, to a party invite”.

And if they don’t make my little “James” happy by preempting that he may arrive and provide a space for him, then that’s on you and not my lax parenting.

Please tell me, if you’ve booked an event that means a numbered amount can attend, do you leave a couple, three, four paid for spaces in case a few James or Jamesess decide they’ll show up as nothing special to do or 30 second RSVP “forgotten” to be sent.

You and your children’s friends parents are teaching each other with disrespect, teaching your children that they can decide on the day if they’ll attend the party and treat others with disrespect, which are both wrong.

Yet, you’re having a continuous pop at a mother who is reaching her child to not allow themself to accept disrespectful behaviour.

Think on about teaching yourself and child boundaries.

Oop, we can add “teaching children disrespect”!!! To the evils of having a couple of spare party bags! 😂

I am not “having a pop at OP”. I voted YANBU and said from the start that I thought Amanda was exceptionally rude.

However , I also said that I did think it was good / usual practice for a kids party to make sure you have a couple of spare party bags , for reasons outlined, and was met by a wall of irrational rage from OP and posters such as yourself. Thats on you lot not me. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Ive never turned up to a kids party without RSVPing , and if I did I certainly wouldn’t be texting the host afterwards to scold her about party bags.

LittleBigHead · 16/01/2025 07:04

Reply telling her not to be so silly. The request for an RSVP was clear. And if she says anything more publicly, repeat that she shouldn’t be so silly.

CautiousLurker01 · 16/01/2025 07:04

JandamiHash · 16/01/2025 00:55

Well I’m thinking he’s either devastated about the party bag because she’s told him to be or he’s been so overly coddled that the slightest inconvenience or adversity breaks him. It’s not his fault either way but nor is it my responsibility. I just find it…interesting that the kids who are massive wet wipes just happen to have wet wipe parents 🧐

I really don’t understand why you have been criticised here. If I turned up at a party where I had not RVSP’d I’d:
a) be embarrassed (and apologetic)
b) would not have turned up with a £2 gift for an 8 year old
c) if I were vegan (double reason not to have forgotten to RSVP) I’d have happily paid for the vegan pizza ordered last minute for my child
d) I would have explained to my DC that mummy fucked up and forgot to RSVP so there is no party bag but I’ll make it up to them ‘cos it was my fault (and, no, I wouldn’t be buying them a replacement bag, they’d just get a later bedtime/movie etc).

As others say, if you contort yourself to plan for every possible eventuality of other people's CFery, all it does is facilitate and encourage that CFery … when CFs need to learn manners/organisation/to accept the consequences for their DC of their CFery.

TroysMammy · 16/01/2025 07:11

I've just remembered my favourite Spud U Like filling, chicken, celery, tomato, hard boiled egg and mayo. However our city mobile spud man sells lasagne as a topping.

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