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Hubs won't get the snip!!

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241719robs · 13/01/2025 09:20

Am I being unreasonable that my hubby wont even consider getting the snip? He just replies with 'maybe one day'.

We have children already and I am 99% DONE. My body has been through enough and mentally Im burnt out. After contraception for years, pregnancy, birth, and breastfeeding I dont want to go back on contraception or risk condoms etc. I know vasectomies are not 100% but better than me having to go through invasive procedures again. Im also late for my period and after 2 negative pregnancy tests Ive explained how unfair it is for me to be worrying about this every month. He basically ignored me as he knew what I was getting at.

Am I being a b*tch? Hes not had to go through anything physically and its not like I’m asking him to chop his bits off 🥲

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Jumpingthruhoops · 13/01/2025 10:49

Devilsmommy · 13/01/2025 09:23

Tell him you won't be having sex until he's done it. Bet he runs to get it done then 😂 I don't understand how some men don't see how such a simple thing for them is better than invasive surgery for the woman who's also already had her body invaded in every which way. Selfish if you ask me

It might not be invasive but it's still a painful procedure. So I reckon he's allowed to be a bit 'selfish'.

Dontknowwhattocall13893 · 13/01/2025 10:50

Starlight1984 · 13/01/2025 09:45

This absolutely.

What so people should be having sex under circumstances they're not comfortable with because if they don't it's coercive.
I'd say that argument is in itself coercive.
You can't be uncomfortable with the fact that there may be consequences for you and not me and not have sex with me cause that would be controlling.
What the fuck.

poemsandwine · 13/01/2025 10:50

Soontobe60 · 13/01/2025 09:30

What’s with the threat of withholding sex as a way of getting someone to do something to their body that they don't want to do? “get the snip and I’ll let you shag me” isn't the persuasive argument people seem to think it is. In fact, it could be seen as coercive and controlling behaviour!

That's exactly what it is, IMO.

GentlyAnarchistic · 13/01/2025 10:50

We agreed this before our first DC was. He saw the toll it took on me. DH's was booked in whilst I was pregnant with DC3. I think it's a lost cause if he's saying no. The only thing is for you to get it done or go back on contraception.

arethereanyleftatall · 13/01/2025 10:50

There are some batshit responses on here.

Co-ercive contril?!?
Withholding sex?!?

How?

The op is simply saying she doesn't want to get pregnant and she doesn't want to take birth control any more.

Which is absolutely her choice.

She isn't remotely saying no sex, and actually for those that think this is, that's actually worryingly misogynistic, with the implication being that the man is entitled to make a women risk pregnancy and hormones as she owes him sex.

It's also his choice.

If neither want to, then no sex is the only option available.

AwfullyWeeBillyBigchin · 13/01/2025 10:51

obsessedwithfreshbread · 13/01/2025 09:41

But what if he wants a second family with a woman that doesn't use sex as a bargaining tool?

Vasectomies are reversible.

Jumpingthruhoops · 13/01/2025 10:51

Devilsmommy · 13/01/2025 09:44

She's not using sex as a bargaining tool. She's told him that she won't go back on the pill and she doesn't want to risk another pregnancy. He'd expect her to have invasive surgery instead of him just having a quick routine procedure. No sex is what happens when the other person won't compromise

Condoms would be the compromise. But, like most contraception, they are only as reliable as the person using them.

AlpacaMittens · 13/01/2025 10:51

Soontobe60 · 13/01/2025 09:30

What’s with the threat of withholding sex as a way of getting someone to do something to their body that they don't want to do? “get the snip and I’ll let you shag me” isn't the persuasive argument people seem to think it is. In fact, it could be seen as coercive and controlling behaviour!

Abstinence is a form of contraception. If the OP doesn't want to take hormones, and her husband doesn't want to get the snip, then all that's left is condoms and abstinence. Nobody is "withholding" anything.

ChicLilacSeal · 13/01/2025 10:52

There's also the diaphragm + spermicide, or the copper IUD. Both are non-hormonal.

ThejoyofNC · 13/01/2025 10:54

So much for "my body my choice".

WomenInConstruction · 13/01/2025 10:55

arethereanyleftatall · 13/01/2025 10:50

There are some batshit responses on here.

Co-ercive contril?!?
Withholding sex?!?

How?

The op is simply saying she doesn't want to get pregnant and she doesn't want to take birth control any more.

Which is absolutely her choice.

She isn't remotely saying no sex, and actually for those that think this is, that's actually worryingly misogynistic, with the implication being that the man is entitled to make a women risk pregnancy and hormones as she owes him sex.

It's also his choice.

If neither want to, then no sex is the only option available.

Simples.

How are so many people confused about this.

Nature will use your sex desires to make babies.

If this is not wanted you have to stop the conception.

If nobody agrees to any of the methods available you either don't have sex or you get babies.

If contraception and pregnancy fuck up your body, it is perfectly understandable that you should abstain from sex.

Abstenance from an activity that will cause you harm cannot be equated to withholding the fun activity of sex cos you intend to bend your partner to your will.

FFS.

Blanketpolicy · 13/01/2025 10:56

Discussions on withdrawing sex as a threat, is deflecting from the issue. Maybe OP likes sex too and would like to continue having it! (if not she has different problems!)

The issue is a communication one and the answer is not ultimations - it is listening and respecting each others perspectives and coming up with a mutually agreeable solution. Something a couple who has a LTR, married and at least a couple of kids should be more than capable of having.

KnitFastDieWarm · 13/01/2025 10:56

He can either get the snip or take responsibility for the purchase and use of condoms. That seems fair.

You can’t make him do anything to his own body but you can place the ball firmly in his court (as it were 😁)

as a side note, my DP had a vasectomy last year. He was fine within two days and has said it actually made his orgasms more intense, so maybe lead with that angle…

arethereanyleftatall · 13/01/2025 10:56

To those that (can't) think that the op is withholding sex by saying she doesn't want to take contraception any more. Surely he is therefore also withholding sex from her by saying he won't have the snip. His not doing anything is saying to her 'you take the hormones or else I won't have sex with you.'

Alondra · 13/01/2025 10:57

Blanketpolicy · 13/01/2025 10:41

Sit down and have an open discussion on both your concerns and contraceptive options and what you both agree on. Vasectomy is an option he should at least agree to explore/research (by himself), but if after researching he decides he still doesn't want to, for whatever reason, that needs to be respected.

You don't get to pull the "I went through hormonal contraception/pregnancy/birth card", as you freely made those choices.

Think of the problem you are trying to solve together - would condoms and one of cycle tracking/cap/diaphragm/spermacide to give double protection and not require invasive surgery be amenable to both of you?

You don't get to pull the "I went through hormonal contraception/pregnancy/birth card", as you freely made those choices.

Bullshit. There is never freedom of choice stopping a pregancy when a man refuses to take responsibility when he has sex. He knows full well that even a condom is not completely safe, and most men hate condoms anyway.

Contraception for women has been researched for years by pharmaceuticals, while the research stopped for the male contraceptive pill. The reason? Pharma knew males wouldn't take it.

The OP gets to decide what she wants to do with her body after years of contraception. She's not in a casual relationship, she's married to a DH who should care about her health. This is 2025, not 1950s.

QuimCarrey · 13/01/2025 10:58

Soontobe60 · 13/01/2025 09:30

What’s with the threat of withholding sex as a way of getting someone to do something to their body that they don't want to do? “get the snip and I’ll let you shag me” isn't the persuasive argument people seem to think it is. In fact, it could be seen as coercive and controlling behaviour!

Only by someone who held coercive and controlling views about sex in the first place. Ejaculating in a vagina isn't an entitlement.

HardenYourHeart · 13/01/2025 10:58

241719robs · 13/01/2025 09:25

@boulevardofbrokendreamss great response. Im worried if I did this our relationship would dwindle

That means you already don't have much of a relationship. It doesn't look like your husband cares very much about you to begin with.

Oneanonymouspost · 13/01/2025 10:58

My DHs response to my suggestion he has the ship was “I don’t really like the idea of it” I said I didn’t really like the idea of 18 months of pregnancy, months of morning sickness, pelvic pain for weeks, one traumatic labour, a vaginal tear, an episiotomy, one electric c section, years and years of breastfeeding and co sleeping, 2x mastitis, but I done it for our family and he will do this for me so I don’t have to endure any of it again and he wont be welcome in my bed until he agrees. He quickly got on the waiting list.

WomenInConstruction · 13/01/2025 10:58

Well said @Blanketpolicy this whole side issue is an accusation that can't be allowed to hang unchallenged.

But his stone walling of the joint issue because he's 'not my problem' is the main issue.

And that her problems are 'nothing to do with me mate' to him is a massive issue for op.

KhakiShaker · 13/01/2025 10:58

My DPhas said no to the snip as he’s nervous he will affect him psychologically and he may end up with ED. I understand this so wont ask him again, it’s up to him. I guess the difference is that I don’t mind the coil. He needs to talk about it with you though and explain what his reasons are or you’ll end up with resentment.

Blanketpolicy · 13/01/2025 10:59

KnitFastDieWarm · 13/01/2025 10:56

He can either get the snip or take responsibility for the purchase and use of condoms. That seems fair.

You can’t make him do anything to his own body but you can place the ball firmly in his court (as it were 😁)

as a side note, my DP had a vasectomy last year. He was fine within two days and has said it actually made his orgasms more intense, so maybe lead with that angle…

He can either get the snip or take responsibility for the purchase and use of condoms.

Do grown ups actually have conversations like that? 🤔

WomenInConstruction · 13/01/2025 11:00

QuimCarrey · 13/01/2025 10:58

Only by someone who held coercive and controlling views about sex in the first place. Ejaculating in a vagina isn't an entitlement.

Quite. If an orgasm is what you want there is wanking.

If you want to enjoy sensual pleasure with your partner and bond with her physically and emotionally then you need to understand she's a living thing and not a sex doll.

Tessasanderson · 13/01/2025 11:00

We completed our family years ago. Partner and i discussed things and agreed that whilst i had taken control of birth control for decades (Condoms and pill) it was his turn. He gladly went to the docs and asked for the snip. Docs were concerned about his younger age but he told them he had zero interest in any more children regardless of his relationship to me. He had it carried out a few weeks later under aesthetic. He has a huge medical phobia so this was his only stipulation.

In his words it is more painful stubbing a toe on a chair leg than getting it done and he really appreciates that i dont need to put any more pills in my body for the sake of us enjoying ourselves. Its been over 15 years now.

Jumpingthruhoops · 13/01/2025 11:01

Didimum · 13/01/2025 09:31

You’re not being a bitch or unreasonable, but neither is he (unless he refuses condoms). He would also be unreasonable to refuse have a full and sit-down talk with you about it which involves pre-research and discussion.

That being said, what one person has had to go through with their body should never be used as an argument for what someone should do with their body. That’s not how it works.

You’re entitled to whatever boundaries for yourself you want to put in place – if that’s no sex, then that’s also your choice.

I do have to say, however, that there is far too often a scaremongering and unwarranted anxiety surrounding condoms. They are an extremely high effective contraception when used properly every time. There really is no need to mistrust them. If you dislike condoms for other reasons, then that has to be assessed on its own, separate to effectiveness.

Agree re condoms... the key words being 'when used properly'. I'd wager there are a lot of men who don't actually know what they're doing with them (too big, too small, too thin, too gung ho LOL!) But for those that do, they're very effective.

WomenInConstruction · 13/01/2025 11:01

Blanketpolicy · 13/01/2025 10:59

He can either get the snip or take responsibility for the purchase and use of condoms.

Do grown ups actually have conversations like that? 🤔

Well it's true.

But that style of conversation is only necessary if you are married to a manchild.

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