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Hubs won't get the snip!!

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241719robs · 13/01/2025 09:20

Am I being unreasonable that my hubby wont even consider getting the snip? He just replies with 'maybe one day'.

We have children already and I am 99% DONE. My body has been through enough and mentally Im burnt out. After contraception for years, pregnancy, birth, and breastfeeding I dont want to go back on contraception or risk condoms etc. I know vasectomies are not 100% but better than me having to go through invasive procedures again. Im also late for my period and after 2 negative pregnancy tests Ive explained how unfair it is for me to be worrying about this every month. He basically ignored me as he knew what I was getting at.

Am I being a b*tch? Hes not had to go through anything physically and its not like I’m asking him to chop his bits off 🥲

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SabreIsMyFave · 13/01/2025 20:02

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 13/01/2025 19:16

Can you Imagine a bloke on here saying my wifey won’t get a hysterectomy. Good God you’d be on him like piranha fish. He be devoured alive.

WTF are you on about?! Are you SERIOUSLY comparing a vasectomy to a hysterectomy?!

😂

Get a clue FFS! I bet you think FGM and circumcision are the same don't you?!

SleeplikeababyTonight · 13/01/2025 20:04

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SabreIsMyFave · 13/01/2025 20:06

MrPepInHisStep90 · 13/01/2025 20:02

Have all contraceptive barriers, including female condoms, been exhausted by OP and her husband?

Try reading all of the OP's posts! YES. They HAVE exhausted many other options! This is why she wants him to do the decent thing, now that SHE has been through many years of contraception and pregnancy and childbirth, and HAVE A VASECTOMY!

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SleeplikeababyTonight · 13/01/2025 20:06

MrPepInHisStep90 · 13/01/2025 19:29

Crikey! Why are you so angry?😂

Nobody is snipping me, ok? Not you. No-one.

She was selfish. Despite her wanting children, her wanting to be a SAHM, and her wanting to be provided for, which I did, she took it upon herself to cheat on me and abandon her child. Perhaps I should have told her to have the snip, eh?

I think what you're saying is a whole new thread, maybe you could start one. I think it is highly subjective tbh. A young man in his 20s for example is very different to a man around 40 for example, who already has a couple of dcs, and is in a loving marriage. I don't think somebody this age should be holding out in case the relationship ends, while his wife who has already been through so much is expected to continue to shoulder full responsibility for birth control, or risk an unplanned pregnancy.

PureGypsyGold · 13/01/2025 20:07

Mirabai · 13/01/2025 19:17

Why are you wittering about bargaining chips OP just said was she was unhappy DH won’t consider a vasectomy.

It’s her life she can moan about what she likes.

Because the person I was replying to said men ask women to have babies all the time so it's fine for OP to demand a vasectomy.

BettyBardMacDonald · 13/01/2025 20:08

Soontobe60 · 13/01/2025 09:30

What’s with the threat of withholding sex as a way of getting someone to do something to their body that they don't want to do? “get the snip and I’ll let you shag me” isn't the persuasive argument people seem to think it is. In fact, it could be seen as coercive and controlling behaviour!

Oh come on!

Polkadotbabushka · 13/01/2025 20:08

Unless he refuses condoms why should he get the snip?
Use condoms, wear them properly.. avoid the most fertile time of the month if you’re that worried… then you’re sorted. No need for surgery for anyone!

BettyBardMacDonald · 13/01/2025 20:10

obsessedwithfreshbread · 13/01/2025 09:41

But what if he wants a second family with a woman that doesn't use sex as a bargaining tool?

No one needs to "have a second family." And what an arseholish thing to threaten his current partner with.

MrPepInHisStep90 · 13/01/2025 20:11

SleeplikeababyTonight · 13/01/2025 20:06

I think what you're saying is a whole new thread, maybe you could start one. I think it is highly subjective tbh. A young man in his 20s for example is very different to a man around 40 for example, who already has a couple of dcs, and is in a loving marriage. I don't think somebody this age should be holding out in case the relationship ends, while his wife who has already been through so much is expected to continue to shoulder full responsibility for birth control, or risk an unplanned pregnancy.

I appreciate your comments; however, I wanted to make my point. I understand my position is wholly different and is uncommon.

PureGypsyGold · 13/01/2025 20:12

Lostcat · 13/01/2025 19:17

Er of course it is .its exactly how they work

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Good grief 🤦

At 98% effective there is a 2% risk of pregnancy each time they have sex. This does not stack to be one in 50 over a period of time. The odds reset every single time, it's only ever 2% every time. And for a good portion of the month she's not fertile anyway so some of the time it will be 0%. Flipping a coin and getting heads doesn't make it more likely you will get tails next time, it's 59/50 regardless of what happened last time. Probability doesn't stack, if you had a working knowledge of statistics you would know that.

Some people never have contraceptive failure and some people have multiple contraceptive failures, that doesn't make the risk 100% or 0% for these people, you roll the dice every time and the result is always independent of previous results. So it remains at 2% risk for the whole year, it definitely doesn't go up to 50% because OP used up her safe shag quota 🙄

EightChalk · 13/01/2025 20:13

It takes such an ingrained sense of entitlement to think that it's reasonable to expect a woman to shoulder the contraceptive burden (and the unplanned pregnancy/termination if it fails) and to call WOMEN "crocodiles" for thinking that men could step up and take on this one part. Like "It's fine for you to risk your life, undergo a high chance of birth injury, incontinence, permanent changes to your body, the hormonal upheaval and 2-year recovery after birth, plus potentially major abdominal surgery, but don't ask me to get snipped, yeah? I might want more children with another woman." Bloody hell.

PureGypsyGold · 13/01/2025 20:17

EightChalk · 13/01/2025 20:13

It takes such an ingrained sense of entitlement to think that it's reasonable to expect a woman to shoulder the contraceptive burden (and the unplanned pregnancy/termination if it fails) and to call WOMEN "crocodiles" for thinking that men could step up and take on this one part. Like "It's fine for you to risk your life, undergo a high chance of birth injury, incontinence, permanent changes to your body, the hormonal upheaval and 2-year recovery after birth, plus potentially major abdominal surgery, but don't ask me to get snipped, yeah? I might want more children with another woman." Bloody hell.

Except it's not remotely the same because women want their children. This man doesn't want a vasectomy. This argument only works if women are having children they don't want out of duty to their husband.

Fluufer · 13/01/2025 20:21

MrPepInHisStep90 · 13/01/2025 19:52

Ha. If you say so.

She's the one suffering - not me.

Yeah you sound blissfully happy 😂

MrPepInHisStep90 · 13/01/2025 20:21

EightChalk · 13/01/2025 20:13

It takes such an ingrained sense of entitlement to think that it's reasonable to expect a woman to shoulder the contraceptive burden (and the unplanned pregnancy/termination if it fails) and to call WOMEN "crocodiles" for thinking that men could step up and take on this one part. Like "It's fine for you to risk your life, undergo a high chance of birth injury, incontinence, permanent changes to your body, the hormonal upheaval and 2-year recovery after birth, plus potentially major abdominal surgery, but don't ask me to get snipped, yeah? I might want more children with another woman." Bloody hell.

Hey Hey,

I was called a misogynistic incel for saying I wouldn't have a vasectomy. I think the term crocodile is relatively delicate in comparison 😂

SabreIsMyFave · 13/01/2025 20:31

EightChalk · 13/01/2025 20:13

It takes such an ingrained sense of entitlement to think that it's reasonable to expect a woman to shoulder the contraceptive burden (and the unplanned pregnancy/termination if it fails) and to call WOMEN "crocodiles" for thinking that men could step up and take on this one part. Like "It's fine for you to risk your life, undergo a high chance of birth injury, incontinence, permanent changes to your body, the hormonal upheaval and 2-year recovery after birth, plus potentially major abdominal surgery, but don't ask me to get snipped, yeah? I might want more children with another woman." Bloody hell.

EXCELLENT POST! 👏

You sure can tell who the men are on this thread, hey? Wink

SabreIsMyFave · 13/01/2025 20:32

MrPepInHisStep90 · 13/01/2025 20:21

Hey Hey,

I was called a misogynistic incel for saying I wouldn't have a vasectomy. I think the term crocodile is relatively delicate in comparison 😂

If the cap fits....... Wink

Housebuy1 · 13/01/2025 20:33

241719robs · 13/01/2025 09:25

@boulevardofbrokendreamss great response. Im worried if I did this our relationship would dwindle

He’s clearly not worried though so…

SabreIsMyFave · 13/01/2025 20:34

MrPepInHisStep90 · 13/01/2025 19:52

Ha. If you say so.

She's the one suffering - not me.

😂

Disturbia81 · 13/01/2025 20:35

I know someone where the DOCTOR said to the man infront of the wife "please go away and think about it carefully as you might want more children if you get married again" 🤦🏼‍♀️

SabreIsMyFave · 13/01/2025 20:37

Disturbia81 · 13/01/2025 20:35

I know someone where the DOCTOR said to the man infront of the wife "please go away and think about it carefully as you might want more children if you get married again" 🤦🏼‍♀️

I bet this same doctor thought it was OK for the wife to be sterilised though!

Onlyvisiting · 13/01/2025 20:41

Soontobe60 · 13/01/2025 09:30

What’s with the threat of withholding sex as a way of getting someone to do something to their body that they don't want to do? “get the snip and I’ll let you shag me” isn't the persuasive argument people seem to think it is. In fact, it could be seen as coercive and controlling behaviour!

Or if you 100% don't want to have a baby or an abortion then it could be seen as the most certain method of birth control. Not wanting or being able to take hormonal birth control for the rest of your reproductive life isn't unreasonable and relying on condoms alone seems risky.
I suspect a lot of the men who don't seem worried about the risk are assuming that a termination is available as a back up.
And I would be livid if I was with someone who considered that a viable birth control choice.
(And I'm very pro choice, but as a last resort, not as ab alternative to contraception)

randomusernam · 13/01/2025 20:43

Tell him you're not having sex again until you can be sure you won't get pregnant. You have done all the heavy lifting and now it's his turn

MrPepInHisStep90 · 13/01/2025 20:43

Disturbia81 · 13/01/2025 20:35

I know someone where the DOCTOR said to the man infront of the wife "please go away and think about it carefully as you might want more children if you get married again" 🤦🏼‍♀️

The doctor is right. Should the relationship collapse and the husband decides to have more kids in the future, he'll need corrective surgery.

He shouldn't have said that in front of his wife, though.

QuaintSloth · 13/01/2025 20:46

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BIossomtoes · 13/01/2025 20:48

MrPepInHisStep90 · 13/01/2025 20:43

The doctor is right. Should the relationship collapse and the husband decides to have more kids in the future, he'll need corrective surgery.

He shouldn't have said that in front of his wife, though.

He won’t need it. He may want it. There’s a difference.

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