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Cancel Culture, is it over?

133 replies

B0xes · 12/01/2025 11:56

AIBU to think that the vibe has shifted? I think it has, something about Trudeau standing down seems to confirm this.

But I know there are still people (often those trying to engage in it) who say it never even was a thing. Was it?

Maybe it's still in full force. But it feels like something has changed. Does it take a while for everyone to realise?

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tailinthejam · 12/01/2025 12:04

I know nothing of Canadian politics, so I'm not sure I understand your question.

JustJoinedRightNow · 12/01/2025 12:05

I don't think it has shifted and I don't think it's got anything to do with the Canadian PM

tailinthejam · 12/01/2025 12:09

Is 'cancel culture' the modern term for a witch hunt influenced by the media?

B0xes · 12/01/2025 12:10

Did he not preside over many of the worst cancel tactics? The debanking of those who donated to the truckers convoy for example.

Ardern, Sturgeon, and now Trudeau all out and Trump back in. Seems to be quite a comprehensive rejection of hyperliberalism.

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B0xes · 12/01/2025 12:11

tailinthejam · 12/01/2025 12:09

Is 'cancel culture' the modern term for a witch hunt influenced by the media?

Well there's certainly room for discussion as to what cancel culture is. When you say media influence, what sort did you have in mind?

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Loub1987 · 12/01/2025 12:12

I hope it is. Although it may just give way to something else, who knows?

tailinthejam · 12/01/2025 12:12

I still haven't the faintest idea what you are talking about. It is unlikely that many people in the UK will have been intently following the Trudeau story (whatever it is).

CeratopsofthePharoahs · 12/01/2025 12:13

I'm not sure it'll ever fully go, but I don't think it has the power it used to.

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 12/01/2025 12:13

I doubt it.

Thelnebriati · 12/01/2025 12:14

Its more likely that key players are now entrenched in organisations, so the figureheads can take a step back.

tailinthejam · 12/01/2025 12:14

B0xes · 12/01/2025 12:11

Well there's certainly room for discussion as to what cancel culture is. When you say media influence, what sort did you have in mind?

I have what can only be described as a complete lack of interest in the topic.

jeaux90 · 12/01/2025 12:16

I think lawfare in the UK is putting some of this to bed yes.

TheKeatingFive · 12/01/2025 12:19

The vibe is definitely shifting, yes, but I wouldn't say Trudeau is the most important example of that. Zuckerberg's speech this week feels more consequential.

SummaLuvin · 12/01/2025 12:21

I hate the term 'cancel culture', it's actually just people often middle class white men who have historically not been held accountable facing consequences for saying and/or doing abhorrent things.

HappyPanda613 · 12/01/2025 12:21

tailinthejam · 12/01/2025 12:09

Is 'cancel culture' the modern term for a witch hunt influenced by the media?

No it’s the right wing term for ‘someone has been a colossal dick and people want to accountability’.

Along with woke, DEI, alphabet community and all the other slurs that gets trotted out, they can get in the bin.

ilovesooty · 12/01/2025 12:23

SummaLuvin · 12/01/2025 12:21

I hate the term 'cancel culture', it's actually just people often middle class white men who have historically not been held accountable facing consequences for saying and/or doing abhorrent things.

Edited

Agreed. It's just taken the place of "political correctness" and "you can't say anything nowadays".

JoanCollinsDiva · 12/01/2025 12:23

I agree OP. The Right wing is gaining popularity- people are sick to death of wokeness and not being able to voice perfectly reasonable opinions. So then there’s a huge swing to the right when it goes too far. Hence Trump, Reform etc.

SoapySponge · 12/01/2025 12:24

I would like to think so. It certainly seems to have died suddenly in the USA. Not sure about Canada and the UK tho'.

ilovesooty · 12/01/2025 12:25

JoanCollinsDiva · 12/01/2025 12:23

I agree OP. The Right wing is gaining popularity- people are sick to death of wokeness and not being able to voice perfectly reasonable opinions. So then there’s a huge swing to the right when it goes too far. Hence Trump, Reform etc.

It depends how one defines "perfectly reasonable opinions".

Ponoka7 · 12/01/2025 12:26

HappyPanda613 · 12/01/2025 12:21

No it’s the right wing term for ‘someone has been a colossal dick and people want to accountability’.

Along with woke, DEI, alphabet community and all the other slurs that gets trotted out, they can get in the bin.

My understanding, was the reaction given to anyone who was gender critical. None were dicks, very few were white men.
I hope that we start to think about what people are actually saying, rather than knee jerk reactions and stop applying easy/lazy labels. But also stop making people (these do tend to be white men) untouchable.

HellsBalls · 12/01/2025 12:28

Yes, it is ending. There are people with their backs up because people have the audacity to bring up the Pakistani pedos again, and those threads are not getting pulled and are all over the news.
Also that the criticism of Rachel Reeves and Labour in general is now mainstream.

Ponoka7 · 12/01/2025 12:31

ilovesooty · 12/01/2025 12:25

It depends how one defines "perfectly reasonable opinions".

Mine would be that a male police officer doesn't get to declare himself a woman and gets to strip search underage girls, vulnerable women etc.
A teenage girl gets to say that she doesn't want to strip down to her underwear in front of someone with a penis, or be thrown off a collage course.
That a hospital doesn't get to tell the police that a rape couldn't have happened because it was an all female ward, when there was a person on the ward with a working penis.

HappyPanda613 · 12/01/2025 12:31

Ponoka7 · 12/01/2025 12:26

My understanding, was the reaction given to anyone who was gender critical. None were dicks, very few were white men.
I hope that we start to think about what people are actually saying, rather than knee jerk reactions and stop applying easy/lazy labels. But also stop making people (these do tend to be white men) untouchable.

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I have been very disappointed in the gender critical movement, though I won’t go to bat against them here because I understand this place is a bit of a gender critical fortress. All I’ll say is that, it sort of shattered the illusion I had that bigotry was exclusively the realm of white men.

JoanCollinsDiva · 12/01/2025 12:31

ilovesooty · 12/01/2025 12:25

It depends how one defines "perfectly reasonable opinions".

Well yes. But what I and many others consider perfectly reasonable opinions ie. “Bio men shouldn’t be allowed in women’s spaces” - others may not. And many have been cancelled for voicing such thoughts.

Luckily things seem to be swinging more to opinions based on reality, not fantasy.

tanstaafl · 12/01/2025 12:40

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