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Cancel Culture, is it over?

133 replies

B0xes · 12/01/2025 11:56

AIBU to think that the vibe has shifted? I think it has, something about Trudeau standing down seems to confirm this.

But I know there are still people (often those trying to engage in it) who say it never even was a thing. Was it?

Maybe it's still in full force. But it feels like something has changed. Does it take a while for everyone to realise?

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TheKeatingFive · 12/01/2025 12:41

SummaLuvin · 12/01/2025 12:21

I hate the term 'cancel culture', it's actually just people often middle class white men who have historically not been held accountable facing consequences for saying and/or doing abhorrent things.

Edited

Most of the people I've seen being 'cancelled' (ie losing jobs and livelihoods) have been women saying that biological men shouldn't be allowed to access women's sex-specific spaces.

JoanCollinsDiva · 12/01/2025 12:41

tanstaafl · 12/01/2025 12:40

Thread reported.

😉

Why?

nauticant · 12/01/2025 12:43

How ironic that someone wants the thread to be cancelled.

JoanCollinsDiva · 12/01/2025 12:43

tanstaafl · 12/01/2025 12:40

Thread reported.

😉

So ironic. A very good example of cancel culture right there.

What has been said that offends you so much?

MuchasSmoochas · 12/01/2025 12:44

It’s clearly a joke!!

JoanCollinsDiva · 12/01/2025 12:44

nauticant · 12/01/2025 12:43

How ironic that someone wants the thread to be cancelled.

Crossed posts😂

It would be funny anyway if it wasn’t so sinister.

JoanCollinsDiva · 12/01/2025 12:45

MuchasSmoochas · 12/01/2025 12:44

It’s clearly a joke!!

Ahh..sorry, slow on the uptake there😂

nauticant · 12/01/2025 12:46

Fooled me too. Very good.

LittleMyLittle · 12/01/2025 12:49

SummaLuvin · 12/01/2025 12:21

I hate the term 'cancel culture', it's actually just people often middle class white men who have historically not been held accountable facing consequences for saying and/or doing abhorrent things.

Edited

The benchmark of what is "abhorrent" is so subjective and changes so frequently (and often not in a predictable linear way) that even people who take glee in these "social punishments" have found themselves caught out by it.

It's like keeping a tiger as a guard dog. You might love the way it rips your enemies' throats out now but one day it'll turn on you or the people you agree with.

ilovesooty · 12/01/2025 12:51

MuchasSmoochas · 12/01/2025 12:44

It’s clearly a joke!!

I don't think so. To clarify - I don't think the thread is a joke.

LittleMyLittle · 12/01/2025 12:53

You might love the way it rips your enemies' throats out now but one day it'll turn on you or the people you agree with.

In fact, this "cancelling" tends to go after minorities, women, and people with mild disagreements. White middle-class, proudly alt-right men are actually LESS likely to be targeted.

So one can argue that these "social consequences" are in and of themselves, rather bigoted.

Maddy70 · 12/01/2025 12:54

B0xes · 12/01/2025 12:10

Did he not preside over many of the worst cancel tactics? The debanking of those who donated to the truckers convoy for example.

Ardern, Sturgeon, and now Trudeau all out and Trump back in. Seems to be quite a comprehensive rejection of hyperliberalism.

Literally no idea what you're talking about

ThDanielDay · 12/01/2025 12:55

I don't think it ever existed tbf

TheKeatingFive · 12/01/2025 12:57

LittleMyLittle · 12/01/2025 12:49

The benchmark of what is "abhorrent" is so subjective and changes so frequently (and often not in a predictable linear way) that even people who take glee in these "social punishments" have found themselves caught out by it.

It's like keeping a tiger as a guard dog. You might love the way it rips your enemies' throats out now but one day it'll turn on you or the people you agree with.

Exactly. People proclaiming with such confidence that those getting cancelled deserve it can't seem to conceive that they might themselves fall foul of the rules.

I thought that myself once. I am now enlightened.

JoanCollinsDiva · 12/01/2025 13:03

TheKeatingFive · 12/01/2025 12:57

Exactly. People proclaiming with such confidence that those getting cancelled deserve it can't seem to conceive that they might themselves fall foul of the rules.

I thought that myself once. I am now enlightened.

Exactly. Reminds me of this:

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
—Martin Niemöller

EasternStandard · 12/01/2025 13:05

TheKeatingFive · 12/01/2025 12:19

The vibe is definitely shifting, yes, but I wouldn't say Trudeau is the most important example of that. Zuckerberg's speech this week feels more consequential.

Agree with this

Adamante · 12/01/2025 13:10

This is not at all about Canadian politics, “Cancellation” has been a major weapon in the culture war across the West, Trudeau was certainly one of the worst proponents though.

It is breathing its last that’s for sure but it will take a while for its supporters and those who wielded the threat of it so enthusiastically to relinquish it. Especially here on MN 😉

Snorlaxo · 12/01/2025 13:10

Musk seems to be trying to cancel Starmer and Labour so is the term used by right wing people about left wing people ?

Trudeau is not the catalyst imo. Politics always swings the other way every few years and it’s swung more to the right than in the past because left wing politicians in recent times have pushed it further left than in the past eg gender, immigration

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Viviennemary · 12/01/2025 13:15

What does cancel culture even mean.

Christmassoxs · 12/01/2025 13:18

Who even cares what this shit means? Woke can fuck off too.

allcatnofiller · 12/01/2025 13:21

No it's just in a different form. For instance, Musky is trying to cancel Keir Starmer and Nick Farage because they aren't dancing to his tune.

Also hello daily fail

HellsBalls · 12/01/2025 13:26

allcatnofiller · 12/01/2025 13:21

No it's just in a different form. For instance, Musky is trying to cancel Keir Starmer and Nick Farage because they aren't dancing to his tune.

Also hello daily fail

Edited

Cancel would be to silence Kier and Nigel. Musk is not doing that. He is campaigning against them. It’s different things.
If Musk banned Farage from X, then that is being cancelled.

Loub1987 · 12/01/2025 13:34

EasternStandard · 12/01/2025 13:05

Agree with this

What was Zuckerberg’s speech? Thanks 🙏

JHound · 12/01/2025 13:35

It never existed.

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