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DD relationship with 50 yr old

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Bonniethecat1 · 12/01/2025 01:03

I have found out my DD is in sexual relationship with a man who turned 50 in August and she is not far off turning 25.. I think he is using her and how can I convince her to stop seeing him, she actually has admitted feelings for him, aibu to think this is so wrong? I can't stand this.

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Gloriia · 15/01/2025 18:07

BrownBirdsFly · 15/01/2025 17:53

To wade in on this one.

I am 35 f and with a 55 year old m. I am fairly recently divorced after being left for another woman in very difficult circumstance.

I have two children aged 5 and 8 and his daughter is grown up. We both own our own homes, we will never marry, we will never live together. We are both high earners and very independent.

It works for us because any man in a similar age range to me will likely have young children and I don’t want to have to help raise someone else’s children (or they will likely want more children and this isn’t for me). Or if they don’t want kids what would they want with me?

He leaves me to the parenting and I leave him to running his business. When I don’t have the children we enjoy meals out together, the theatre, nice hotels. He has done the odd day out with us but I pretty much parent independently and I’m happy with this. I run my house independently but he will help out with DIY etc if I ask.

I value his life experience in having been divorced himself before (although 20 years ago) and having raised a child he understands the challenges I face.

Sometimes the right person helps you at the right time and I have no idea how long will be together - as long as we’re both happy and love each other I guess.

Do you get on well with his daughter, is she a similar age to you?

TempestTost · 15/01/2025 18:09

BruFord · 15/01/2025 14:40

I've just wished a friend's daughter a Happy 25th Birthday. I can clearly remember when her Mum was pregnant with her, she was the first of my friends to have a baby (she was late 20's). I can imagine the reactions if I (50) got together with one of the daughter's friends!

That's why this age gap feels uncomfortable to many people, the older partner was a full-fledged adult when the younger partner was born. Her parents are probably close in age to him.

Edited

So is your assumption here that somehow, the man in this picture was actually interested in children and is only attracted to the woman because he knew her as a child?

That seems kind of a stretch.

My great grandfather married a daughter of a friend, there was quite a large gap in ages. She was 26 though at the time. I just can't see why anyone would think, he was interested in her as a child, rather than, he is interested in her as an adult?

Gloriia · 15/01/2025 18:09

MartinCrieffsLemon · 15/01/2025 18:06

You made a distinction between 15 and 25 years which makes 15 MORE ok

You then chose to ignore, more than once now, exactly how big an age gap is ok before it becomes "pervy". You're 2 years old. Does 5 become too much? 10? 12 OK but 13 not?

Again, having a relationship with someone old enough to be your parent is weird Confused.

No it isn't illegal obviously but everyone will judge those in 25yr age gap relationships.

Disturbia81 · 15/01/2025 18:13

@CellophaneFlower Stalker! 😂 I'm flattered.
I love good men.
Not perverts.
I speak about it on a site designed for talking.
It works both ways, older men and older women going for younger is grim as fuck.

CellophaneFlower · 15/01/2025 18:14

TempestTost · 15/01/2025 18:03

I think the main question is, is he a kind person?

It's a funny thing to me, many many people at 25 are not necessarily looking for a LTR that will turn into a marriage or something like that. They are interested in dating, having fun, going to dinner or a bar, etc. They might date 5 differernt men in a six month period like that, and no one seems to bat an eye.

What difference does it really make in that scenario if there is an age gap? All that really matters is if they are enjoying doing fun things and if they respect each other - there are plenty of 25 year old men who are disrespectful, unkind, or whatever - age is really not the factor that is likely to be the biggest correlation with those things.

In a year or so what are the chances they will still be dating, anyway?

Exactly this.

I've dated 2 men 4 years younger than myself, not a massive gap, but younger all the same. Both were physically and mentally abusive. One especially was really controlling, wanted to tell me how to dress, how to behave. The 2 significantly older men I've dated, 13 and 15 years older, were respectful and never would have laid a hand on me. Just to add I had a child already at the time I dated the older men so they certainly weren't bothered I didn't have a "childless body". That comment earlier I found particularly disgusting.

BrownBirdsFly · 15/01/2025 18:14

@Gloriia shes actually nearly ten years younger than me. She doesn’t have children and won’t be having any. She’s very happy for us. But as we both have largely kept our lives and homes separate there’s not been any impact really on her - she hasn’t met my children for example as her dad and I largely spend time together when I’m child free.

MartinCrieffsLemon · 15/01/2025 18:14

Gloriia · 15/01/2025 18:09

Again, having a relationship with someone old enough to be your parent is weird Confused.

No it isn't illegal obviously but everyone will judge those in 25yr age gap relationships.

So you can't actually give an indication at which age it becomes creepy?

If you have parents who waited until their 40s (which does happen) does that make 25 between 20 and 45 OK because your parents would be in their 60s? If your parents were a teen pregnancy then, as said above, they'd be in their mid-30s when you were 20. That limits your dating pool.

What about if your parents have a 10 year age gap? Is it acceptable to date in age nearer the younger one?

CellophaneFlower · 15/01/2025 18:16

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RobinMcfly · 15/01/2025 18:21

it does not help when some celebrities normalise age gap relationships, Cher, Madonna, leo, etc

Disturbia81 · 15/01/2025 18:21

@CellophaneFlower Better than being a perv apologist 😘

Gloriia · 15/01/2025 18:25

MartinCrieffsLemon · 15/01/2025 18:14

So you can't actually give an indication at which age it becomes creepy?

If you have parents who waited until their 40s (which does happen) does that make 25 between 20 and 45 OK because your parents would be in their 60s? If your parents were a teen pregnancy then, as said above, they'd be in their mid-30s when you were 20. That limits your dating pool.

What about if your parents have a 10 year age gap? Is it acceptable to date in age nearer the younger one?

Omg. How many times. The gap shouldn't be big enough that your bf or gf could be your parent.

These are not my rules, it is societal norms. Older people targeting young people is sick and wrong. Again, see Schofield and similar stories of inappropriateness.

BruFord · 15/01/2025 18:37

@TempestTost How did you come to that conclusion?

What I'm saying is a 25-year age gap firmly places the older partner in the parental age group and that's likely to be one reason why @Bonniethecat1 feels uncomfortable with the relationship.

Yes, they're both adults and the OP knows that they have to figure this out for themselves, but her reaction is understandable. To reverse the situation, if the OP went out with someone who went to school with her DD, her DD probably wouldn't be thrilled either.

Add to this the reputation he has of being a perve/creep (see her later updates) and it's hardly unsurprising that's she's uncomfortable.

CellophaneFlower · 15/01/2025 18:37

Disturbia81 · 15/01/2025 18:21

@CellophaneFlower Better than being a perv apologist 😘

I'm not a perve apologist but neither am I a bigot. I'm not small minded enough to assume everybody who dates a younger person does it for the same reasons.

MartinCrieffsLemon · 15/01/2025 18:39

Gloriia · 15/01/2025 18:25

Omg. How many times. The gap shouldn't be big enough that your bf or gf could be your parent.

These are not my rules, it is societal norms. Older people targeting young people is sick and wrong. Again, see Schofield and similar stories of inappropriateness.

Yep

You can't give us an actual answer because parents can vary massively in age and therefore you don't have an actual age gap

And for the last time, Schofield was because he'd known the young man since before he was legal and in a position where he could easily have taken advantage. Plenty of other celebrities have age gap relationships and aren't "cancelled" because the circumstances are different.

And it's not always "targeting" from old to young. Some young people can "target" old people. Other times it can naturally happen

BruFord · 15/01/2025 18:40

CellophaneFlower · 15/01/2025 18:37

I'm not a perve apologist but neither am I a bigot. I'm not small minded enough to assume everybody who dates a younger person does it for the same reasons.

@CellophaneFlower Is it bigoted for a parent to be worried about a 25-year age gap?

CellophaneFlower · 15/01/2025 18:42

The Phillip schofield reference is just odd. If you really think your opinion is valid, why on earth would you use a man who apparently groomed a 15 year old boy as an example? Clearly this isn't the case in the kind of age gap relationships being discussed.

Who next? Jimmy Saville? 🤷‍♀️

BruFord · 15/01/2025 18:46

@CellophaneFlower I agree, but I can see why a parent would be concerned about such a large age gap (plus her updates on his reputation). It doesn't make her bigoted to worry about her adult daughter, as long as she doesn't try to dictate to her.

CellophaneFlower · 15/01/2025 18:48

BruFord · 15/01/2025 18:40

@CellophaneFlower Is it bigoted for a parent to be worried about a 25-year age gap?

Not at all and I did state earlier that it's not something I'd be overjoyed about.

However, we moved on from OP's post when certain posters started proclaiming that every single older man is wrinkly, bald, smelly and a pervert who is interested in women who are childless and have bodies similar to that of underage girls. In fact somebody actually called them paedophiles.

Gloriia · 15/01/2025 19:06

MartinCrieffsLemon · 15/01/2025 18:39

Yep

You can't give us an actual answer because parents can vary massively in age and therefore you don't have an actual age gap

And for the last time, Schofield was because he'd known the young man since before he was legal and in a position where he could easily have taken advantage. Plenty of other celebrities have age gap relationships and aren't "cancelled" because the circumstances are different.

And it's not always "targeting" from old to young. Some young people can "target" old people. Other times it can naturally happen

It doesn't matter how old a parent is! It is the gap we are discussing. So, say one is 20 then a bf/gf of 45 is weird (and we'd all be very dischuffed if our 20yr olds came home with a dodgy 45yr old..) If someone is 30 then a bf/gf of 55 is odd and so on.

Schofield was because <to use your terminology> he was his boss, in a position of power as is often the case. The stuff about how long he'd known him was always rumour. Pip's defence was nothing he did was illegal just ill advised.

You're right, plenty of celebs have age gap relationships and we judge them too.

HungryBored · 15/01/2025 19:11

I would be incredibly unhappy if this was my daughter. She is currently 20 and fortunately thinks age gap relationships are gross. Like me, she wonders why an older person would be interested in someone so much younger, other than it being purely about physical attraction. I too would wonder why the older person could not find someone their own age.

This is one issue I feel really strong about.

Of course the daughter can make up her own mind. And 25 is an adult. But when my kids are that age, I know I will still feel protective about them and that that’s okay.

JustToBeMe · 15/01/2025 19:16

My friend is 21 years younger than her partner, they have been together 25 years + now.

QueSeraSeraaa · 16/01/2025 00:11

MartinCrieffsLemon · 15/01/2025 18:14

So you can't actually give an indication at which age it becomes creepy?

If you have parents who waited until their 40s (which does happen) does that make 25 between 20 and 45 OK because your parents would be in their 60s? If your parents were a teen pregnancy then, as said above, they'd be in their mid-30s when you were 20. That limits your dating pool.

What about if your parents have a 10 year age gap? Is it acceptable to date in age nearer the younger one?

This is almost my exact situation. 20 years between us and yet our parents are only a couple of years apart. My dad was 36 when I was born and his mum was 18 when he was born.
My grandparents had a 12 year gap and my grandad was 45 when he had his first child so my grandparents were around 20 years older than his.
Just proves how it can vary so much and that it isn’t straight forward to put adults in to brackets of who they should or shouldn’t date solely based on someone’s age or their parents age.

MartinCrieffsLemon · 16/01/2025 01:31

Gloriia · 15/01/2025 19:06

It doesn't matter how old a parent is! It is the gap we are discussing. So, say one is 20 then a bf/gf of 45 is weird (and we'd all be very dischuffed if our 20yr olds came home with a dodgy 45yr old..) If someone is 30 then a bf/gf of 55 is odd and so on.

Schofield was because <to use your terminology> he was his boss, in a position of power as is often the case. The stuff about how long he'd known him was always rumour. Pip's defence was nothing he did was illegal just ill advised.

You're right, plenty of celebs have age gap relationships and we judge them too.

But you can't give us what gap is acceptable (in your opinion!)

Schofield is irrelevant because the circumstances are more than just an age gap!

MartinCrieffsLemon · 16/01/2025 01:39

I also think a 40 year old dating a 60 year old would not be as controversial as a 25 year old with a 45 year old despite it being the same age gap

Azandme · 17/01/2025 14:39

Just noticed that Joan Plowright was 22 years younger than Laurence Olivier.

They'd been married 28 years and had had three children when he died in 1989.

Age gap relationships aren't new, or even particularly rare.

Best course of action is to choose someone who suits you, and leave others alone when they do the same.