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DD relationship with 50 yr old

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Bonniethecat1 · 12/01/2025 01:03

I have found out my DD is in sexual relationship with a man who turned 50 in August and she is not far off turning 25.. I think he is using her and how can I convince her to stop seeing him, she actually has admitted feelings for him, aibu to think this is so wrong? I can't stand this.

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Sceptical123 · 15/01/2025 11:31

Disturbia81 · 15/01/2025 11:03

They shouldn't have the ego to reach out to younger women like that, they think so much of themselves. I've always made a point of saying "why are you messaging someone my age!?"
It's a fucked mindset. They are at an older age and expect younger women to find them attractive, yet they won't find women the same age as them attractive, nevermind women older than them. It's screwed up. It says so much about them as a person, all negative.

I totally agree.

Where ppl who say - they may have things in common, and age is irrelevant - may have a point in a MINORITY of cases, let’s face it, there’s only one reason older men go for women/girls so much younger than themselves - it’s isn’t for meaningful conversations or shared experiences. Aside from escapism and the delusion that they themselves are younger bc they’re with someone young, it’s for their fresh, firm childless bodies. Not their minds. It’s especially 🤮 when they’re old enough to be their dads.

When I was a teen and girls were going out with men in their mid-late 20’s and 30’s I thought it was gross then too and understood what the attraction was for the men. The girls thought they must be really mature and special and couldn’t see what was glaringly obvious - these men could not get women their own age as they were inadequate, immature, emotionally backward and more often than not saw these girls as easy to control and malleable for their own warped version of perfect gf material. It’s a massive power imbalance and the girls and young women are only ‘special’ for as long as their bodies stay in appealing condition.

But as I said before in PP, it’s often transactional and most of these young women get something out of it which is why they go for these disgusting pervs. I guess they can exert power to some extent as these men think with their dicks and are willing to spend a lot of money to put them where they shouldn’t. Bleurgh.

withlotsoflove · 15/01/2025 11:34

SpunkyAzureDuck · 12/01/2025 20:18

It's an idiotic offensive stereotype tbh. I'm a very wealthy gay man but even I am aware of how desirable it makes you for a lot of women and that there are nowhere near enough wealthy people to go around.

Combine this with the fact that most wealthy people know this and are much more intelligent/assertive than the average person I don't see how it would be possible to gain more than a few pennies gold-digging without a real connection, since the gold-digger is extremely replaceable if she starts asking for more than a few pennies. It just won't work irl if there isn't a spark.

I'm (27) currently in a relationship with a 48 yo guy and it's purely because he's kind and I find him attractive, we have been together 5 years now and are very happy together and are considering adoption in maybe 5 years time.

In the gay community age gaps are much more acceptable and it's not because of abuse or similar, it's because there isn't the toxic idea that sex devalues/degrades the receiving partner and that they should be getting something in return.

Thank you for sharing this. I found your last paragraph so insightful ♥️

YoghurtPotWashingMachine · 15/01/2025 11:55

Disturbia81 · 15/01/2025 11:07

@YoghurtPotWashingMachine 😂😂
Thankfully most posters here agree with my contributions. It's grim as fuck, sorry if you can't handle that.

You don't know anything about me. I just think repeating "grim as fuck" parrot fashion is pathetic. And FYI not everyone agrees with you, sorry if you can't handle that.

JHound · 15/01/2025 12:01

Disturbia81 · 15/01/2025 11:03

They shouldn't have the ego to reach out to younger women like that, they think so much of themselves. I've always made a point of saying "why are you messaging someone my age!?"
It's a fucked mindset. They are at an older age and expect younger women to find them attractive, yet they won't find women the same age as them attractive, nevermind women older than them. It's screwed up. It says so much about them as a person, all negative.

Yep. I would always pick the automatic rejection response “I am looking for somebody closer to my own age”.

So offended!

SouthernBelle2 · 15/01/2025 12:25

Bonniethecat1 · 12/01/2025 22:17

Ok, so, sorry for late update and possible drip feed but the reason I am worried as he has form for going for younger women and he is known in the village for being a perve/creep and going on swinging forum and treating women as if they are toys. My DD is not like this and is quite reserved usually so I don't want him to be a bad influence.

Apparently she is! But sounds like a lot based on hearsay. Either way there is nothing you can do except be supportive to your daughter. If the rumours about him are true then at some point it will end and your daughter may need your support, so don't alienate her now.

Sceptical123 · 15/01/2025 12:34

The question young women have to ask themselves is - would this man want anything to do with them if they were the man’s age?

ViolinsPlayGentlyOn · 15/01/2025 12:52

Gloriia · 15/01/2025 08:57

I don't have an instance for talking about the physical side of relationships merely pointing out sex is an important part of it. So yes sadly some grubby 50yr olds will indeed target 25yr olds..

And if a 25 year old isn’t interested they can tell the 50 year old to jog on.

At some point we need to accept adults taking responsibility for their own decisions.

Disturbia81 · 15/01/2025 12:58

Sceptical123 · 15/01/2025 12:34

The question young women have to ask themselves is - would this man want anything to do with them if they were the man’s age?

Exactly..

Disturbia81 · 15/01/2025 12:59

@Sceptical123 Well said 👌🏼

DownThePubWithStevieNicks · 15/01/2025 14:01

Disturbia81 · 15/01/2025 11:05

They're quietly judging. Maybe some of the sleazy types of men are envious.

I’d be loudly judging if my 40 or 50 yo friend brought their 25yo bf or gf to meet me and other friends. I wouldn’t embarrass the younger party, but I’d be having direct words with the old sleaze afterwards.

BruFord · 15/01/2025 14:40

I've just wished a friend's daughter a Happy 25th Birthday. I can clearly remember when her Mum was pregnant with her, she was the first of my friends to have a baby (she was late 20's). I can imagine the reactions if I (50) got together with one of the daughter's friends!

That's why this age gap feels uncomfortable to many people, the older partner was a full-fledged adult when the younger partner was born. Her parents are probably close in age to him.

Disturbia81 · 15/01/2025 15:02

@DownThePubWithStevieNicks Same, I've even lost touch with male friends who have shown hints of it. It says so so much about a man.
I meant the ones who that poster think is cool with it all.. they are still quietly judging.

Disturbia81 · 15/01/2025 15:03

BruFord · 15/01/2025 14:40

I've just wished a friend's daughter a Happy 25th Birthday. I can clearly remember when her Mum was pregnant with her, she was the first of my friends to have a baby (she was late 20's). I can imagine the reactions if I (50) got together with one of the daughter's friends!

That's why this age gap feels uncomfortable to many people, the older partner was a full-fledged adult when the younger partner was born. Her parents are probably close in age to him.

Edited

Yep.. there are babies being born now that are the future perverted interests of current 40 year olds 🤢🤢

MartinCrieffsLemon · 15/01/2025 16:35

BruFord · 15/01/2025 14:40

I've just wished a friend's daughter a Happy 25th Birthday. I can clearly remember when her Mum was pregnant with her, she was the first of my friends to have a baby (she was late 20's). I can imagine the reactions if I (50) got together with one of the daughter's friends!

That's why this age gap feels uncomfortable to many people, the older partner was a full-fledged adult when the younger partner was born. Her parents are probably close in age to him.

Edited

I'd say you dating a friend's daughter would be a different situation...

MartinCrieffsLemon · 15/01/2025 16:37

Someone could have a baby at 15
They would be 35 at the same time their child was 20
But I would say most people wouldn't be saying 20 with a 35 year old is someone with a "dirty old letch" even though it was someone the same age as their parent...

Disturbia81 · 15/01/2025 17:07

MartinCrieffsLemon · 15/01/2025 16:37

Someone could have a baby at 15
They would be 35 at the same time their child was 20
But I would say most people wouldn't be saying 20 with a 35 year old is someone with a "dirty old letch" even though it was someone the same age as their parent...

Erm.. yes we would..

BruFord · 15/01/2025 17:14

MartinCrieffsLemon · 15/01/2025 16:37

Someone could have a baby at 15
They would be 35 at the same time their child was 20
But I would say most people wouldn't be saying 20 with a 35 year old is someone with a "dirty old letch" even though it was someone the same age as their parent...

@MartinCrieffsLemon I meant me dating a friend of the daughter, someone she went to school with.

A 15-year-old having a baby is exceptionally young though, a child having a child. The average age of parenthood is 30-odd now and was younger in the past. I imagine that’s why the OP is uncomfortable, it’s like one of her friends sleeping with her DD. Yes, I know they’re adults, but it’s still uncomfortable.

MartinCrieffsLemon · 15/01/2025 17:37

Disturbia81 · 15/01/2025 17:07

Erm.. yes we would..

No someone upthread implied a 15 year age gap was OK ...

Serious what is your cut off for an age gap? Or must we only date the exact same age?

CellophaneFlower · 15/01/2025 17:38

Disturbia81 · 15/01/2025 17:07

Erm.. yes we would..

Do you only date people with the same birthdate as yourself?

MartinCrieffsLemon · 15/01/2025 17:39

BruFord · 15/01/2025 17:14

@MartinCrieffsLemon I meant me dating a friend of the daughter, someone she went to school with.

A 15-year-old having a baby is exceptionally young though, a child having a child. The average age of parenthood is 30-odd now and was younger in the past. I imagine that’s why the OP is uncomfortable, it’s like one of her friends sleeping with her DD. Yes, I know they’re adults, but it’s still uncomfortable.

Yes. That would also be different. You'd have been with her since she was young and you could appear to have groomed her/wait until she was legal to pounce. Not the same as someone completely new. (This was similar to the case with Schofield as someone keep bringing it up)

It doesn't matter how unusual it is. It happens. So it's a case that could occur

CellophaneFlower · 15/01/2025 17:44

Disturbia81 · 15/01/2025 17:07

Erm.. yes we would..

And what's with the "we"? Have you announced yourself spokesperson or something? More women you're deciding can't make choices for themselves perhaps?

You seem so bitter that I was intrigued and had a quick browse of your posting history. You post on many threads with your views on pervy old men and younger women. You don't seem to like men in general tbf. Also no posts about pervy old women and their poor, groomed, defenceless younger men. Funny that.

BrownBirdsFly · 15/01/2025 17:53

To wade in on this one.

I am 35 f and with a 55 year old m. I am fairly recently divorced after being left for another woman in very difficult circumstance.

I have two children aged 5 and 8 and his daughter is grown up. We both own our own homes, we will never marry, we will never live together. We are both high earners and very independent.

It works for us because any man in a similar age range to me will likely have young children and I don’t want to have to help raise someone else’s children (or they will likely want more children and this isn’t for me). Or if they don’t want kids what would they want with me?

He leaves me to the parenting and I leave him to running his business. When I don’t have the children we enjoy meals out together, the theatre, nice hotels. He has done the odd day out with us but I pretty much parent independently and I’m happy with this. I run my house independently but he will help out with DIY etc if I ask.

I value his life experience in having been divorced himself before (although 20 years ago) and having raised a child he understands the challenges I face.

Sometimes the right person helps you at the right time and I have no idea how long will be together - as long as we’re both happy and love each other I guess.

TempestTost · 15/01/2025 18:03

I think the main question is, is he a kind person?

It's a funny thing to me, many many people at 25 are not necessarily looking for a LTR that will turn into a marriage or something like that. They are interested in dating, having fun, going to dinner or a bar, etc. They might date 5 differernt men in a six month period like that, and no one seems to bat an eye.

What difference does it really make in that scenario if there is an age gap? All that really matters is if they are enjoying doing fun things and if they respect each other - there are plenty of 25 year old men who are disrespectful, unkind, or whatever - age is really not the factor that is likely to be the biggest correlation with those things.

In a year or so what are the chances they will still be dating, anyway?

Gloriia · 15/01/2025 18:03

MartinCrieffsLemon · 15/01/2025 17:37

No someone upthread implied a 15 year age gap was OK ...

Serious what is your cut off for an age gap? Or must we only date the exact same age?

I actually said 'Your 15 yr old age gap isn't 25 years like the op's dd is it. Quite a significant difference'. I didn't say it was 'ok' just less weird than a 25yr age gap.

Why do you think we must only date someone of the same age, who has said that? I'm 2 yrs older than my dh. 2yrs, not 25yrs. It is quite baffling why we have to keep pointing out it isn't ok to have such a massive gap.

MartinCrieffsLemon · 15/01/2025 18:06

Gloriia · 15/01/2025 18:03

I actually said 'Your 15 yr old age gap isn't 25 years like the op's dd is it. Quite a significant difference'. I didn't say it was 'ok' just less weird than a 25yr age gap.

Why do you think we must only date someone of the same age, who has said that? I'm 2 yrs older than my dh. 2yrs, not 25yrs. It is quite baffling why we have to keep pointing out it isn't ok to have such a massive gap.

You made a distinction between 15 and 25 years which makes 15 MORE ok

You then chose to ignore, more than once now, exactly how big an age gap is ok before it becomes "pervy". You're 2 years old. Does 5 become too much? 10? 12 OK but 13 not?