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To think women know the 'explanation' for why more young men than women live with parents

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Echobelly · 11/01/2025 10:15

Was reading this article, and had to laugh at the last line https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jan/11/hotel-of-mum-and-dad-in-uk-at-its-fullest-in-two-decades-study-finds - apparently 'Young men are more likely to live with their parents: 12% compared with 5% of women at the age of 34. Researchers could offer no explanation for this, although the gender differences also existed in other high-income countries.'

I think a lot of women could offer an explanation. 😜

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JHound · 11/01/2025 18:27

I wonder if this controls for divorcees too which would skew the figures as the primary carer is more likely to keep the family home?

JHound · 11/01/2025 18:35

GrumpyPanda · 11/01/2025 10:32

Found the man! Or should I say, found the incel.

Incels truly do think the darndest things and then type those things on the internet don’t they?!

JHound · 11/01/2025 18:36

DuesToTheDirt · 11/01/2025 10:36

I find it weird that these articles focus on the cost of a whole flat, or buying. Young people used to just share until they could afford a place of their own.

There comes an age where you want your own space but still can’t afford to buy. Or you don’t wish to continue sharing with / share with strangers so moving back home / staying at home is a sensible option.

JHound · 11/01/2025 18:40

swallowedAfly · 11/01/2025 13:11

This surely isn’t the case now? I don’t see it anywhere ime

Most people I see still parent and socialise their children in line with gender roles to some extent.

JHound · 11/01/2025 18:43

Leafy74 · 11/01/2025 13:24

But if that's their view of men, why are they putting so much effort into trying to find one?That's what I don't understand.

What view of men? You can enjoy solo travel and being single and still want to find a good partner and have a good quality romantic relationship.

JHound · 11/01/2025 18:47

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This is misogynist nonsense but with a user name like that it’s to be expected.

JHound · 11/01/2025 18:49

Diomi · 11/01/2025 15:17

It could be because men can still have kids when they are older so don’t get into serious relationships until they are older. Based on UK statistics, on average men have children later than women. Maybe getting into a serious relationship is something that pushes people to move out.

But this assumes all the women moving out do so to live with a boyfriend?

JHound · 11/01/2025 18:53

MabelMora · 11/01/2025 16:19

Now private rents can be so high, even in shared housing, that it's difficult for tenants to save enough for a deposit for a property which would've cost them proportionally less 30 (for example) years ago.

It's hardly breaking news that wages haven't risen in line with rents and house prices.

Yep - this is me. Far too old to share, but rents and other living costs constantly put house deposits out of reach.

And then this assumes you have a significant other to purchase a house with.

If you don’t….

CheekyHobson · 11/01/2025 18:55

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Hahahaha do you know any young women in real life or are you only famiilar with the ones you follow on Only Fans or the imaginary ones you complain about on Reddit?

JHound · 11/01/2025 18:56

OonaStubbs · 11/01/2025 16:43

Women tend to live with men older than themselves.

What do you think the average age gap is in relationships?

5128gap · 11/01/2025 19:01

My completely unscientific and anecdotal view on this is that young men living at home make fewer sacrifices of independence and freedom than young women. I think a lot of people behave more protectively of daughters which can read as control and restriction, and a lot have a higher bar for daughters behaviour, leading young women to feel they can only live their lives as they choose without explaining their whereabouts or justifying their actions if they leave home.

DuesToTheDirt · 11/01/2025 19:13

JHound · 11/01/2025 18:36

There comes an age where you want your own space but still can’t afford to buy. Or you don’t wish to continue sharing with / share with strangers so moving back home / staying at home is a sensible option.

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Oh I get that completely. It's just that the people in these articles seem to expect a flat of their own from the off.

HelloWorldItsNiceToMeetYou · 11/01/2025 19:17

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Wtf?!
Step away from the misogynistic tiktoks from Andrew Tate etc. Al...

PerambulationFrustration · 11/01/2025 19:19

They could be living at home so they can save up for a deposit.

HelloWorldItsNiceToMeetYou · 11/01/2025 19:20

DuesToTheDirt · 11/01/2025 10:36

I find it weird that these articles focus on the cost of a whole flat, or buying. Young people used to just share until they could afford a place of their own.

The cost of house shares is high too in a lot of areas. If they went for this option they would probably not be able to save and eventually buy.

thecherryfox · 11/01/2025 19:23

From 18 onwards, I was a successful, hard worker with my own home (rented, but still payed bills by myself). I always dated older men and I had my fair share of experiences. These older men who lived with their parents/single mum was because they spent all their money on drugs and wanted someone to pay for them so they could have their money as disposable.

in my experience, all these people who say it’s so expensive to move out - whilst it is expensive they don’t want to give up their lifestyles of mummy and daddy paying for everything so they can have their money as disposable to spend as they please. I have siblings who are like this, my sister claims she can’t afford to move out but she spends at least £200 a month eating out, £200 on clothes and other online orders, in the summer goes on holiday abroad every other week, when a concert of her favourite artist comes out doesn’t think twice about dropping £300 on a ticket.

I think it’s often that women grow out of that selfish mentality whilst men stay selfish their entire lives. Even with it not being gendered, I feel so sad for all the parents out there who should be getting a financial break with adult children at an older age in life but it just ends up being more expensive with them refusing to move out

Diomi · 11/01/2025 19:24

JHound · 11/01/2025 18:49

But this assumes all the women moving out do so to live with a boyfriend?

Not all, but enough to make it more than men of the same age.

HelloWorldItsNiceToMeetYou · 11/01/2025 19:27

Reddog1 · 11/01/2025 12:15

I think that both sexes are infantilised. 21 year olds treated like sixth formers. And so on, until they’re 34 and still being referred to as “young adults” and having their washing done for them.

But the CoL problem is a VERY significant factor. I left university in 1994 and had no problem at all affording a flatshare rental and then the deposit/mortgage on my own small property in 1999. These days, tiny mid-link starter homes in my Devon town are 5x average salary. I dread to think what that situation is like in the South East.

I agree. I paid £35k for my first home in 1998. A 2 bed terrace, typical starter home. The deposit was less than 3k which I saved up in 2 years through being frugal and doing a 2nd job. My salary was 17k.

The same house is now worth £150k and the majority of jobs want people constant working extra hours, it would be hard to have a second job like I did. People doing the job I did are now on about 27k, working endless hours and carrying a tonne of student debt.

Obviously this is irrelevant to male/female but I think some posters who expect their DC to move out straight after uni etc are very naive.

Genuinelyenquiring · 11/01/2025 19:31

I get really fed up with all this negativity towards men and boys on mumsnet.

Snapyofingers · 11/01/2025 19:37

Leafy74 · 11/01/2025 13:24

But if that's their view of men, why are they putting so much effort into trying to find one?That's what I don't understand.

What do you mean “if that’s their view of men”? Firstly it is a fact that many men are treating women in the ways I referred to.
Not just a “view”.

Secondly women on the dating sites or trying to find a partner elsewhere will obviously be looking for the men who aren’t like this. They do exist and that’s the ones they want! It’s not that hard to understand is it?

I don’t know what particular threads or posts you’re referring to but presumably they’re on here complaining about the many disrespectful, misogynistic men they’re coming across while trying to find Mr Right.

lover99 · 11/01/2025 19:41

Because they're not very ambitious and i think employers are starting to wake up to the fact that women are more academic and competent.

latetothefisting · 11/01/2025 20:07

DuesToTheDirt · 11/01/2025 10:36

I find it weird that these articles focus on the cost of a whole flat, or buying. Young people used to just share until they could afford a place of their own.

but it doesn't? It just refers to the cost of rent generally, and doesn't specify whether that's for a houseshare, renting alone or buying.

If anything, the numbers mentioned (£560 for average rent) are for a room in a houseshare - you can't rent many whole houses on your own for that in most of the country!

ComtesseDeSpair · 11/01/2025 20:13

JHound · 11/01/2025 18:56

What do you think the average age gap is in relationships?

According to the ONS data, 11% of marriages involve a husband who is at least 7 years older than his wife; compared with less than 2% of marriages where the wife is at least 7 years older than her husband. The percentage will obviously decrease as age gap increases, as very large age gaps are still relatively uncommon, but only a minuscule number of marriages are between younger men and significantly older women.

DorianMeile · 11/01/2025 20:17

The amount of relationship breakdowns that result in women continuing to live independently whilst the men move back in with their parents and barely see the kids I suspect has something to do with it.

DuesToTheDirt · 11/01/2025 20:33

latetothefisting · 11/01/2025 20:07

but it doesn't? It just refers to the cost of rent generally, and doesn't specify whether that's for a houseshare, renting alone or buying.

If anything, the numbers mentioned (£560 for average rent) are for a room in a houseshare - you can't rent many whole houses on your own for that in most of the country!

Apologies, I was thinking of this article about the same report. "Studying for a masters degree in environmental science, Zach was inspired by the ambition of a better job, but renting on his own was "out of the question, unless you want to live in a shoe box", and buying still feels out of reach."

Two generations of women sit on a sofa smiling and holding hands with a cabinet and picture in the background.

More people in late 20s still living with parents

The rising cost of buying or renting home has led more to remain in the family home, a think-tank says.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2j8v8wvrko

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