To think women know the 'explanation' for why more young men than women live with parents

[Echobelly]

Was reading this article, and had to laugh at the last line https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jan/11/hotel-of-mum-and-dad-in-uk-at-its-fullest-in-two-decades-study-finds - apparently 'Young men are more likely to live with their parents: 12% compared with 5% of women at the age of 34. Researchers could offer no explanation for this, although the gender differences also existed in other high-income countries.'

I think a lot of women could offer an explanation. 😜

I was waiting for this - I'm sick of women being blamed for what men do - or don't do. These young men will have had fathers - what about blaming them too?

It really isn't. You are suggesting than the personalities of men and women are inherently different solely because of their sex.

It's incredibly sexist and no different than misogynistic people who believe all woman are predestined to behave in certain ways because of their sex.

For example, those who believe woman to be more suited to parenthood and then can't understand why a mother wants to pursue a career, or why a women decides she doesn't want to have children.

Attitudes like this are damaging to women.

well I do think that men and women have different personality traits actually. You may disagree but we are certainly not the same. I think scientific analysis does back it up . Whether this extends to staying at home longer I really could not say but men and women are certainly very different in so many ways.

DS is at Uni currently. He’s pretty independent but more than happy to be home at the moment. However his best mates DF is about to by a house in their uni city. Ultimately he will be able to rent it out as an SHMO. It needs a lot of work but DS and friends already work for friends DF who is a builder and are set to spend Easter and Summer break doing most of the work.
They will be paid but friends DF will get most of it back in rent.

I suspect DS will live in uni city full time once they have the house and since it will be “their “ house it’s unlikely they’ll be trashing it. They can also choose if they want to rent out all the rooms or just do up the number they need initially and complete the renovation over the next few years.

I am very much imagining men behaving badly at this stage although over Christmas they did cook a full Christmas dinner from scratch with help via FaceTime from me.
They have been friends for years and spent a lot of time together sharing air bnbs while working away from home.

They are incredibly lucky to have privileged backgrounds but they have all proved that they have a work ethic and the skills they’ve picked up labouring are a bonus.

I hope, like me, after several years of independent living he has no desire to come back home to live.
If he does return back to this area we are considering buying a couple of flats. One outright for DH and I then provide a decent deposit for another one that DS can buy with a reasonable mortgage. It’s possible he may come into some inheritance soon so we may do this sooner and rent it out until he wants to either sell it or move in.

As you can see I’m not rushing to welcome him back full time. I don’t want him to wait until we have gone before he can afford to buy a property.

Neuriscience certainly doesn’t ’back up’ what you’re claiming. Read Cordelia Fine’s Delusions of Gender.

That’s can’t be correct - if they have their children 50:50 they won’t pay any child support .

What a bizarre take. None of those would ever be an option for me.

I actually know of more women than men in that age bracket that still live with a parent/s.

The men I can think of who live with parents are back there because their relationship ended and the ex lives with the children.

Buying or renting a home is really hard for young people these days. I know people who are incredibly frustrated and quite down about the fact that it seems so unachievable. Whilst there may be some who are ‘too lazy and spoilt’ to bother moving out from the sanctuary of bank and home of mum and dad, I know people who are incredibly frustrated that they cannot afford a place of their own and whose mental health isn’t good because of it. It is no laughing matter and certainly not helpful to shame struggling young people who would love nothing more than to be able to afford their own place to live.

…and also, this.

My personal explanation would be that I left my parents home far earlier than my brother because they treated me like crap whereas he was treated like a king.

Wish property builders futureproof their homes. New builds with ONE parking bay when an increasing number of cars per household is increasing. Or if decide to build garages, measure today's cars to make them fit, including the width of the car with the driver's door open.

My parents' home is 21 years old. They can fit their car into the garage, but unable to open the driver's door to get out of the car once its in the garage.

Hate to point this out but….

you raised him.

You raised him.
You raised him.

Reported. Troll

you are right!! I did my best, he has been a challenge 🙂

Don't be ridiculous.

Well I’m honestly no expert- all i know is anecdotal - my daughter loved to play with dolls, play quietly etc and my son loved trains, trucks and diggers. tell me that’s nurture not nature if you like but I’m not sure I believe it.

It could be because men can still have kids when they are older so don’t get into serious relationships until they are older. Based on UK statistics, on average men have children later than women. Maybe getting into a serious relationship is something that pushes people to move out.

Not complicated. Most will have worked out it's a financial benefit and the chances are that washing and food will be provided.

Post university for a year I might understand (assuming no disability) but otherwise adult men (or indeed women) living at home strikes me as a failure to launch.

There is a difference between disliking men and disliking male bullshit.

Well if you dont believe it there is no real point - but just to try - if you dress babies in blue or pink, you can track the different type of language people use and differences in the way they interact. With such unconscious powerful differences, you cant say that what you observed is innate, nature based difference.

Watch this. You’d be surprised at how babies are treated differently right from the start. When girls are pushed toward playing with dolls and “girl” toys, even subconsciously, dressed in pink pretty clothes, and expected to be quiet and polite, they learn to behave that way. Boys are allowed to be louder, more physical, and given “boy” toys.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/magazine-40936719

It's a Venn diagram.
There is a sizable intersection on the dating threads!

But an intersection is the same as just disliking. There are undoubtedly women who dislike men on principle. But also women who love men but dont like some very stereotypical male bs like weaponised incompetence, or dismissing womens concerns, or mansplaining. Love men myself, but wont put up with any of the above.

What proportion of women do you think this applies to?

Seriously?