Reform UK neck and neck with Labour?

[NeatDog]

Absolutely shocked to read that in a poll Reform UK are neck and neck with Labour...

About 25% polling share for Reform and Labour.

I thought Blair was the worst PM ever, but Starmer seems to be giving him a run for his money.

It's a bit more complicated than X. Farage and his cronies are covered in the mainstream media and GB News too. Unfortunately or fortunately, depending on your view, Farage has the knack of understanding what matters to people and articulating it well.

I’m not going to engage with you any further, but let me just gently explain to you that you are currently on SM doing exactly that.

Nope.

Good. I’d love to see a new government come in who will actually make some changes.

If you think it is just poorer areas of the UK then you’re mad.

The poorer areas may get more coverage/be more vocal and outspoken but there is a growing pool of the wealthy who are sick of the state of this country.

Unchecked immigration, punitive tax measures, failing services and huge distrust in Keir and Reeves and what the next budget will bring.

Musk didn’t start this, Musk is only picking up and amplifying what many are thinking/posting anonymously on social media.

I was thinking about immigration last night, on some level, every single problem the UK faces is made worse by mass immigration.

For instance, we've got a housing crisis and massive rents. If we didn't have mass immigration there would be more houses to go around. I'll be honest, I don't think Labour building on greenbelt is the right thing to do...

You must be pleased that Labour have been deporting illegal immigrants at the highest rate since 2018?

Enforced returns are far more expensive to the tax payer than voluntary returns.

Plus more arriving means costs go up overall

I'm not surprised at all. We've seen global political trends that swing to the left and then to the hard right. It's so worrying and I think it will happen here too. Really worry about the sort of country my daughter will grow up in.

Luckily many are voluntary returns.

Banning political parties you disagree with is quite fascist. Also thinking that working class people in the north don’t deserve democratic freedoms is quite extraordinary.

from this and your posts on other threads I wonder if you’re a parody account.

That is exactly what Labour and Labour supporters did to attack the Tories when they were in.

There were billions of falsehoods and scare stories circulated by the left in newspapers, TV interviews, speeches, on websites, on social media etc etc.

It’s the price of holding power. Get used to it.

How many illegal migrants are crossing the channel to England each year? 35,000 a year or something?

We need to build about 10,000 houses a year just to house them. Or about 25 houses every single day just for illegal immigrants fleeing the hell hole that is France.

For a leader of a minor party, Farage and his cronies get a huge amount if coverage, and very little of it looks in-depth at any policies. It’s easy to promise, when you don’t have to deliver - they have no answer to the simplest of questions about their keystone policy.. which is immigration. How would they reduce it ?

You will get people supporting you, when you tell them you have a magic plan, that will solve all their issues (when you don’t have one at alll)

So not pleased that changes are being made after years of inaction? I see.

What do we do about all the jobs that can't be filled by British nationals?
Is it just the people that come over on the boats that you have an issue with or all migrants?

The fact that people actually believe is scary.

Reform were underprepared for the 2024 election and it showed in the candidates they were able to round up. And they still managed to come second in quite a lot more seats than they won. I don't think their seats performance in 2024 is a reflection of what they could do after a few years of improving their activist organisation, carefully selecting viable candidates, bringing in money which is sure to be flowing, and a few careful interventions such as Farage the other day distancing himself from Tommy Robinson to show voters that they do have a line.

(I'm not a member of Reform but watching them closely.)

Other parts of the World don't have massive amounts of people turning up expecting free houses and free money.
Maybe Farage could go to places like Japan and see why they don't have mass immigration?

What disinformation has Musk printed. Ia sk this has i really don't know what he has said about anything.

If the numbers keep going up as they are how does it reduce costs?

It’s not just poorer areas. You may find people are just keeping their opinions to themselves. If it is clear you support Labour and hate Reform then you may find your friends keep their real feelings to themselves. Debate is not encouraged anymore - we rush to cancel people.

Get rid of local council elections.
Ban a political party some don’t agree with.
Crack down in free speech.
Stop social media we don’t agree with.
Say no to a public enquiry that a you gov poll says 75% of people want. Starmer applied the whip and then abstained.
Ridicule and mock and change the subject to stop debate and criticism.

Freedom of expression is one of the essential foundations of a democratic society. The media require particular protection because they play a key role in defending freedom of expression. Article 10 protects, among others, the right to criticise, to make assumptions or value judgments and the right to have opinions.

Plus the economy is not doing very well at all. The forecast is awful. The mainstream media should be all over this but have been slow. So I don’t believe it’s just the poor who are unhappy. Now mortgage rates are moving up for those about to take a new deal - rents may well rise again.

I've absolutely no problem with skilled immigration..... none at all.

That's the funny thing, all the complaints about jobs being "taken" from Brits. I used to work with an employment service (closely linked to Job Centre but not them), and the amount of people born and bred in this country who sat and told me they'd do "anything" apart from cleaning, office work, don't want to work with the public, definitely not care work... I also can't remember the last time I was seen by a specialist doctor who wasn't an immigrant, I hope we have plenty of British specialists/consultants waiting to fill those gaps.