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AIBU?

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My mother is guilting me about being a working parent.

288 replies

Sevendayhigher · 10/01/2025 10:04

Hi,

This upset me today and I suppose I'm asking whether I'm being unreasonable for thinking that it's OK to work even though you don't absolutely, 100% HAVE to.

It was a difficult drop off at nursery today because my son is unwell (he's 14 months) and I work from my parents' house.

I mentioned that it's hard being a parent today where most households need a dual income just to sustain themselves. My mother told me that the main reason most households are dual income now is because they 'expect so much out of life, whereas in the 50s people were happy with what they had' (or words to this effect). Apart from the plethora of issues that the 1950s carried, which she agreed was true, I argued that most households could survive on one income fairly comfortably because housing wasn't as expensive as it is today, compared to the salaries that people make. Nowadays it's very hard to get a mortgage with one income, especially if you haven't had money gifted to you. And if you rent, that a crazy cost too. She argued it was the same as in the 1950s, except people didn't 'expect to go on holiday every year or go out for fancy dinners, and were happy with their little house that wasn't that great.' I told her that as a family, we would bloody love 'a little house that wasn't that great' - please can she show us one that we can afford on my husband's salary alone, like people did in the 50s?

She then told me that if we really wanted to, we could move into something like that and I could be a stay at home mum, but that we want to live in a 'fancy area' so don't. She told me we'd be able to afford a house on just my husband's salary if we lived outside London. Not true, but the main thing that irked me was the implication that I'm working my (genuinely low paid) job because we want to live a luxury lifestyle/won't 'lower ourselves' to a cheaper area. She even said that she'd have been prepared to move to the other side of the country if it meant she could stay at home with her children instead of going to work.

What also irks me is that I can see where she's coming from - in theory if we moved to Derbyshire or somewhere very far away we could potentially buy a house and I wouldn't technically have to work. It feels as if my mother is saying that it's not OK to not want to do that - as a parent you have to make every sacrifice in order to stay at home with your child. Even if it means giving up all your family's support around you/living in a place you're unfamiliar with. On a personal note, my husband is visually impaired and unable to drive, so moving out of a city is also very difficult for us transport-wise, but I feel like we shouldn't have to justify ourselves with this??

I know she'd just tell me that she was giving her opinion and I shouldn't be so sensitive about it, but am I being unreasonable to think that it's OK to work in order to not have to give up almost everything in your life? Or is the most important thing staying at home with your child?

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MinorGodhead · 10/01/2025 10:07

Staying at home with your child in 2024 is (leaving aside illness, additional needs, circumstances that enforce it like being a trailing spouse temporarily without a work visa) a sign you’ve never found sufficiently interesting, rewarding and/or well-paid work. Tell her you feel sad for her lack of choice back in the day.

ForZanyAquaViewer · 10/01/2025 10:07

I think it’s a bit mad that you’re even asking this question.

StMarie4me · 10/01/2025 10:09

Tell her to butt out. Politely or not.

pointythings · 10/01/2025 10:11

I said YABU because you're letting her and her ignorant views get in your head. She's wrong. Start believing it.

BlondeFool · 10/01/2025 10:12

Why do you work from your parents house?

Hufflemuff · 10/01/2025 10:14

I think she makes a few good points. She is right, back in the day people didn't have luxuries like we have now. No holidays, 1 present at Christmas, no Sky TV etc ... without having a window into your expenses I can't judge that. I could 100% see where she'd be coming from if you continuously moaned about having no money - but went away twice a year to Barbados and drove a £500pcm car on finance. That doesn't sound like the case though.

If you both work from home anyway I can't see why you couldn't move to Derbyshire and afford a house - but at what cost?! To have absolutely no network around you? It might be fine for some, but I'd want my family around me too. Plus maybe she would change her tune if you actually did fuck off to Derbyshire!

She shouldn't have mum guilted you! That's shitty of her.

Sevendayhigher · 10/01/2025 10:15

Hufflemuff · 10/01/2025 10:14

I think she makes a few good points. She is right, back in the day people didn't have luxuries like we have now. No holidays, 1 present at Christmas, no Sky TV etc ... without having a window into your expenses I can't judge that. I could 100% see where she'd be coming from if you continuously moaned about having no money - but went away twice a year to Barbados and drove a £500pcm car on finance. That doesn't sound like the case though.

If you both work from home anyway I can't see why you couldn't move to Derbyshire and afford a house - but at what cost?! To have absolutely no network around you? It might be fine for some, but I'd want my family around me too. Plus maybe she would change her tune if you actually did fuck off to Derbyshire!

She shouldn't have mum guilted you! That's shitty of her.

Edited

Thanks - we actually don't both work from home, my husband can't, he's 5 days a week in the office haha! :)

Thanks so much for your measured perspective x

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Swanleek · 10/01/2025 10:15

Your mum sounds a right bitch 😭

Sevendayhigher · 10/01/2025 10:16

BlondeFool · 10/01/2025 10:12

Why do you work from your parents house?

It usually works for me because it's right next to the nursery we send our son to. There's also much more space, but I take your point :)

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Swanleek · 10/01/2025 10:16

Honestly their generation sometimes (not ALL before mumsnet comes for me) genuinely has no idea.
im sorry OP, maybe shes sort of projecting her own issues on you, like perhaps she’s actually jealous of your life?

chollysawcutt · 10/01/2025 10:17

I mean, how does she even know what a working parents life was like in the (checks date) 1950s?

If she is the granny to a 14-month-old, I would imagine her choices as to what to do with her children would have been made in the 80s or 90s?

Does she have some rose-tinted specs going on. Is she following the trad wives trend on insta?

Sevendayhigher · 10/01/2025 10:17

pointythings · 10/01/2025 10:11

I said YABU because you're letting her and her ignorant views get in your head. She's wrong. Start believing it.

Thanks - I am actually going through therapy and have come a long way to genuinely not caring what she thinks as much, but on a deeper level I guess I found it hard when I wrote this to let go of the fact that she made some good points along the way despite her opinion being mean.

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Agix · 10/01/2025 10:17

You need to show her the figures to back up what you're saying.

WannabeMathematician · 10/01/2025 10:18

I like working. I also hate the idea that I was told I could be anything but now I have kid all I should want is to be a SAHM. I’m not cut out for it. Just like it stupid to tell every little girl to want to be a doctor it’s stupid to think every woman with children should be at home with them.

I don’t have to work, like you I’ve done the maths and we could move and down
size and change our lives but I won’t be happier so why would I? I love my job, I’m highly specialised and there is no way my son will chat to me about code and software architecture. And quite frankly I find spending 9+h a day with any person exhausting. My son should have to think it’s him that makes me miserable when I just don’t have social stamina.

I’m also really wary of these threads as I find women like your mum spark some sort of working mum versus SAHM rage fight. Do what makes you happy and what you can afford.

Ohthatsabitshit · 10/01/2025 10:18

Well she’s right you could prioritise being a sahm and do all the things she says to achieve it. You are right in that you don’t feel what you would lose is a reasonable exchange for what you would gain. Surprise surprise you are different people at different stages in your life and have different priorities.

Why do you need her to agree with you?

Swanleek · 10/01/2025 10:19

Also OP, if it makes you feel any more reassured I’m a SAHP to my pre schooler not by choice but because they are disabled and non verbal. My career is in tatters, I have barely any money. My sanity is gone and although I was never in a high flying job or career job I’ve always worked and I miss the interaction so so much. I also don’t feel like I’m a good enough parent because I’m constantly burned out (husband works full time and no family here) stressed and touched out.
I can imagine your son is thriving in nursery and will be a well adjusted boy ready for school in a few years. Ignore your mum.

Mistletones · 10/01/2025 10:19

I don’t think she understands economics so I wouldn’t place too much value on her uninvited opinion

Sevendayhigher · 10/01/2025 10:19

ForZanyAquaViewer · 10/01/2025 10:07

I think it’s a bit mad that you’re even asking this question.

Sorry, I agree with you. To clarify - I'm not 'genuinely' asking this question in the sense of me wondering whether other people should stay at home with their children at all costs or not. Really it was more of a means of me saying that I'm doubting my choices and feel guilty for them, even though I know in theory that people should be able to do what they damn well want haha! It's just really hard to take that on board yourself sometimes.

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WannabeMathematician · 10/01/2025 10:20

Sevendayhigher · 10/01/2025 10:17

Thanks - I am actually going through therapy and have come a long way to genuinely not caring what she thinks as much, but on a deeper level I guess I found it hard when I wrote this to let go of the fact that she made some good points along the way despite her opinion being mean.

Do you think you believe her deep down? I found I felt the way you did quite a lot until my son was about three. But looking back it was because a lot of people may comments like your mum!

Snorlaxo · 10/01/2025 10:20

Are you sure that this isn’t a veiled dig about you working from her house ?
Does she think that taxpayers should pay for mums to stay at home if the marriage ends or the husband is unable to work ? A lot of people who believe that women should be SAHM are the same people who think that single mums and families get too much taxpayer money and that dads pay too much CM

SummerInSun · 10/01/2025 10:22

She is a product of her generation, and also she needs to justify to herself how she lived her life.

You are a product of a different world, where you are right about income levels needed (isn't the stat that in the 1950s the average house price was three times average annual salary and it's now something like six or eight times?), and also women want the fulfilment and independence and security that comes from having a professional life outside the home.

You won't change her mind so better not to discuss it with her.

Sorry you had a tough morning. It will get easier. And by the time your DC is settled in school you'll be glad you still have a job.

MsBorealis · 10/01/2025 10:22

Her choices, if we can call them that, were hers.

I think the problem you have, is that you still have a parent/child relationship with your mother. You are a woman now and she needs to understand she can't give you every opinion she wants, without potential consequences. If she's making you feel like shit, pull back from her. For goodness sake sort out your work, don't work from her house.

You need to teach her how to treat you.

404ErrorCode · 10/01/2025 10:22

Back in the good old days, more women had a ‘village’ than they do now also.

So does she want to volunteer to have your baby at her house whilst you work, so you can see him during breaks etc?! Didn’t think so.

Perhaps you are eating too many avocados and drinking too many coffees, OP. We all know if we didn’t do that we would live in luxury…

Printedword · 10/01/2025 10:23

My mother stopped talking to me for 2 weeks because I went back to work. She got over it without ever quite understanding that wanting to keep my pension and career was not the same as 'needing the money'.

Sevendayhigher · 10/01/2025 10:23

Swanleek · 10/01/2025 10:19

Also OP, if it makes you feel any more reassured I’m a SAHP to my pre schooler not by choice but because they are disabled and non verbal. My career is in tatters, I have barely any money. My sanity is gone and although I was never in a high flying job or career job I’ve always worked and I miss the interaction so so much. I also don’t feel like I’m a good enough parent because I’m constantly burned out (husband works full time and no family here) stressed and touched out.
I can imagine your son is thriving in nursery and will be a well adjusted boy ready for school in a few years. Ignore your mum.

Thanks so much <3 It sounds like despite how hard it is, you're doing the very best for your family and I really hope things get a little bit easier for you as time goes on. We all just have to do what's best for us don't we and nobody can tell us what that is but ourselves! I see that now. Thank you for your kind words and sending all the best to you and your family x

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