Brilliant article about the rape gangs in the UK

[Petrine]

I’ve put this on AIBU as it appears to be most read. A brilliant article about the rape gangs and the ensuing cover up.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/01/07/elon-musk-has-ripped-cloak-of-deceit-off-britain-scandal/

Are you a police officer? How would you know? Or did you read about it on x?

I'm sure that poster is definitely, not at all, not in the littlest bit, just looking for the screenshot.

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They’re still happening. You sound like all the agencies that covered it up more than a decade ago.

She actually said she was happy to sweep thousands of rapes under the carpet did she?
I am so tired of the rhetoric that if you express concerns about the motives of Musk, Trump, Farage, Yaxley - Lennon et al then you are happy for children to be raped

Communities who knew this was going on! I know that the women in those communities are often voiceless, but were there no good men willing to speak out, no Imans willing to share their horror and disgust? Or like other religions, did they hope that they could ignore it?

100%

This is just propaganda, and OP is promoting it.

Yeah. Did no-one go "Hey, just got this super weird WhatsApp from my brother inviting me to go rape a 12yo girl in the park? Uh wtf? I'm going to the police, this is fucked up"

Where to start?

1. "crimes that were committed years ago" - don't you see that your 'years ago' minimises, downgrade, and frankly dismisses these horrendous crimes? Crimes that the victims are still living with.
2. "you are being manipulated" - the same accusation could be levelled at you. You can be seen to be being manipulated by those who don't want the failings of all the authorities examined and addressed, who want it all swept back under the carpet. Manipulated by your fear of "discord", just as the authorities were back then. Manipulated not by 'extremists' but by the dead hand of those currently in authority who prioritise staying in authority over all else. Do you see how these accusations of being manipulated work now?
3. "you are being manipulated by extremists who want to destabilise the west and sow discord between communities to further their own twisted agenda" - I think you need to sort out which extremists you are talking about. "Destabilise the west" suggests external non-western extremists (Putin, Isis, etc.) and "sow discord between communities" implies our home-grown racists. I'd imagine these two groups having very different agendas.

And - We should be angry at the police, politicians and social workers whose prejudices meant they let these girls down again and again, giving them no escape from their abusers. This is what makes these gangs of rapists different, what attracts the anger - that they were facilitated by the attitudes / prejudices / snobbery / fears of the authorities, those put into their positions to protect us. This extreme abuse and torture was practically state-sanctioned.

What part? The mass sexual abuse and torture? The unwillingness of the authorities to take action.

@Lessthanmore no she didn't. She laughed at the question posed by the journalist. Don't make stuff up.
Her point was similar things happen in the UK and it must stop.
Every year she highlights in Parliament women who have been killed by men.
She is constantly talking about make violence in the news. I mean - just being a vague reader of the news should highlight to you her campaigning. Maybe we read different newspapers.

We have to talk about this because that’s the only way to prevent it from happening again.

It’s the only way to let the girls know that there is no shame in what’s happened to them.

Shame on you.

The jumping on the bandwagon. Pearson always does this and has done for years. She’s constantly brimming with faux outrage on whatever the Tory cause de jour happens to be.

Why not ask Sammy Woodhouse & other victims like her what they would like?

Or is their voice something you'd like to hear quietened as well?

This.

Yes, I watched that too!

I think Dorries imagined she was digging herself out of a hole – but all she did was make it bigger and land all her Tory Cabinet colleagues in it. Some by name!

I wish Musk would devote his time to getting rid of CSA from X.
And Labour would devoted their time to acting on recommendations already in called for in reviews.
And the Muslim communities would devoted themselves to calling out the predictors within.

The question was asked during Question Time and she compared the SA to heckling that takes places in Bham

Here is the link:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-35440954.amp

To all those fulminating against Musk, The Telegraph, Alison Pearson (who wrote the article) - get a fucking grip. You are indulging in 'shoot the messenger' and ignoring the message. What you think about any of them matters far less than two points:

1. Is what they are saying correct?
2. Does them saying it bring sunlight to the topic and increase the chances of justice being done?

The problem with child abuse of this kind is largely MEN.

Not Pakistani men, men as a whole. Not all men but a substantial enough minority. Look at the Church of England! Not many Pakistanis there.

The typical right wing windbags and nutters are trying to stir up racial hatred.

3 Are they acting in good faith or cynically weaponising the issue to suit their own agenda?

What does the Church of England have to do with this particularly story? Nothing. You are deflecting and engaging in whataboutery.

When someone with an agenda makes a claim, the best thing to do is ignore it because we know it was made with genuine malicious intentions.

There are a lot of problems that the previous government have left this country that need to be dealt with, fighting over historical crimes like this is a distraction, and I suspect it was done to make Labour look weak. They just need to ignore the furore and get on with healing the country and people will realise that HATE DOES NOT WIN.

Not me.

The bold part is a quote from a poster called HappyPanda.

I happen to disagree with them.

Exactly. I hope mumsnet come to the same conclusion and expunge this topic from the board.

The last thing we want is for this place to become a haven for far right rhetoric and dangerous free thinkers.

@HappyPanda613 "mass scale of abuse perpetrated by white British men"

Can you link to some data and details on this please.