Brilliant article about the rape gangs in the UK

[Petrine]

I’ve put this on AIBU as it appears to be most read. A brilliant article about the rape gangs and the ensuing cover up.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/01/07/elon-musk-has-ripped-cloak-of-deceit-off-britain-scandal/

and onwards

Agreed. By extension, don’t pin the blame on Starmer and Jess Phillips.

I'm not pinning all the blame on anyone.

What that Birmingham has become a cesspit. I used to walk round Birmingham, back from abroad street to snow hill on a Friday night, felt completely safe, went back recently and felt intimidated at 5pm on a Friday. I walked from Moor Street to the Cathedral and was so relieved to get to my hotel,

Its dirty, the council are bankrupt so no local services really, gangs of men hanging round. As a woman I felt frightened- are you saying that’s ok?

it’s a cesspit,

I agree with this and in addition to this a cursory look at the output of Pearson and the Telegraph will show you exactly what they think of working class northern young women the majority of the time - misogyny and class snobbery rampant and the girls always the victims

It does indeed look like Blair did very little, leaving it to local councils and the Police.
There was a report in 2002 but nothing really came of it after the race riots in 2001.

However, that doesn't excuse so little action in the 2010s and 2020s, when there was inquiry after inquiry and the findings very well know about nor does it excuse Labour for not having given this far more thought and action now.

Tbh Grooming of children by organised gangs has been going on for decades, long before Rotherham.... look at the Cyril Smith stuff

I can not stand Elon Musk, in fact I think that he is quite possibly very mentally disturbed. However, I read the whole article in the Telegraph - but I don't know how I did that if it is behind a pay wall. Anyway, I very soon forgot that he was even mentioned at all, as what I was reading was harrowing beyond measure.

Very sadly, I have to believe all that was said in the article about the "British Pakistani Muslim men". The only thing I question about the whole article is the implied suggestion that it is only Muslim men with Pakistani connections that will behave in the evil manner that those monsters we already know about, behave.

Those of you with your excuses not to read the article because it is in the Telegraph really need to get over yourselves, because it is one of the most harrowing modern articles I have read in my lifetime. One young girl was raped with a hairbrush, as well as the usual body parts used by men everyday to rape and torture their victims.

As I said at the beginning of this, I can not stand Musk, I also can not stand Trump, and have not been able to stand him for many, many, years. I do not read the Telegraph except for articles like this that I happen upon. But if I had known in advance what this article said, I would have paid £100 or more to be able to read it.

@nonbinaryfinery has been kind enough to reproduce the whole article here, so for those of you with all your different "reasons" for not reading the article up until now, please give all the tragic victims of these Muslim Monsters, some respect and compassion, by reading the article above as soon as you possibly can.

Yes, I know that there are millions of other atrocities in this world, and a great many of them are not the work of Muslim men. I have signed petitions and I have made donations to many charities. I have also written to MPs and such like. I have 3 main usual "types" of charities that I frequently give to, which are ones against cruelty - including all sorts of abuse - to children; ones that are against cruelty to animals - except the RSPCA (a terrible organisation in my opinion); and charities for the homeless. In case anyone finds my financial state of any interest, or relevance, to what I have written here, I only receive the state pension and PIP.

This is so mind-blowingly stupid I don't really know where to start with it.

I refuse to believe that any grown adult who lives in the actual real world thinks that some sacred castes 'communities and identity groups' should be above the law.

Nobody is this clueless. Go back to your GCSE sociology books and try again.

it is also disingenuous to talk about our own attacks and abuse by individual men when talking about this.

We are specifically talking here of the systematic targetting of specific groups of girls, wit the express aim of using them for sex and passing them around friends and acquaintences.

"grooming gangs" may not be the correct term, but it does apply since many of the girls WERE groomed in order to facilitate their depraved activities.

That is not to say that, in general, we shouldn't talk about male VAWAG - but that this particular conversation is about the gangs, the grooming, and the cover up/lack of proper response by the authorities. The lack of meaningful reparations/compensation/therapy for the victim, and prosecution to the full extent of the law of those (laughingly small number) convicted.

Whataboutery to derail or dilute conversation and discussion about these issues is a low-blow and despicable.

You didn’t read what I said but don’t let that stop you having the big reaction 🙄
There is no ‘correct approved media’ here either- misogyny and snobbery are common across the board.

Oooh ok. I may have missed that! I am not much into chick lit (or “chick flicks”) which maybe why it passed me by!

You can go to any town/city centre on a weekend and experience that.

My DD was at Uni in Plymouth, she and her housemates had to find an alternative way to walk home because the abuse thrown at them from building workers and car drivers.

They reported it and Police did nothing, it only stopped when Covid came along!

Whataboutery to derail or dilute conversation and discussion about these issues is a low-blow and despicable.

Yes, and people need to bear in mind that it just contributes to brushing this under the carpet. The decision not to focus on the gangs in and of themselves in the Jay inquiry was misguided, I believe.

There is no ‘correct approved media’ here

Then why single out the Telegraph?

Also, misogynists or not, many people do give a fuck about children being raped.

Because that’s where the article comes from ?

Yes, the article comes from the Telegraph. What paper do you think is more appropriate to publish articles on this issue?

Im not a Telegraph reader either, but I'm not going to write off their entire readership as insincere when they read about child rape.

Jess Phillips IS to blame for turning down an inquiry and punting it back to Oldham. Starmer IS to blame for dismissing those concerned about the rape of girls as ‘far right’, failing to call an inquiry, and heading a party that thinks an appropriate response to all this is promoting a party TikTok with lyrics about how great it is to drug and raping girls.

Labour have already had a third of the time the Tories had to implement Jays recommendations. And have know about them since 2022. Though the recommendations do not cover the way these girls were not protected by the police, social services etc

Wow that’s quite a strong dislike for Pearson there. She was visited by the police for a non police reason and that should unsettle anybody who gives a hoot about freedom of thought or expression. Jackboot agenda, eh?

I do understand the complaints that the Telegraph (and other media) are all over this because they are racist and will take any opportunity and use any excuse to put the boot into minority groups. And that in general they DGAF about the lives of working class (or any, depending on who it is) woman and girls.

It is very much like all those loudmouths on twitter who are screeching about male VAWAG because they believe the perpetrators to be Muslim/Asian/not white. But couldn't care less when it is the likes of the Tate brothers being up before the beak for trafficking women. They never screech about that.

Having said that. We must keep pushing on this.

This is true it is men, and unfortunately in certain religious communities men get explicit permission to treat women as inferior beings

People on the left saying 'can we stop talking about this' is what will embolden the far right.

Surely all sane people care about that. My point, which you’ve still missed, is that some people care about it a lot more when they can use it to serve the agenda of inflaming islamophobia in society (enabling people to feel justified in using a phrase such as ‘Muslim monsters’ on this thread for example) and rather less - at least publicly- when they can’t. Otherwise why stoke all this up again now but not discuss for example the Camborne case (white gang)

I think that is exactly what that particular poster has been trying to achieve throughout their many posts on this thread.

I'm supportive of the Telegraph or any other mainstream/broadsheet papers covering this. I think if you're concerned about misinformation from X, Reddit etc then you should support mainstream papers, which do have some legal safeguards around libel, factually correct information.

Obviously like every paper they have an angle, bias and preferred political outcomes - but that is usually reflected in the stories they choose to publish, rather than by reporting actual fake information.

I think there are a number of people who are coming to the story now via the national papers' reporting, who wouldn't have seen the original screenshots on X, or who weren't sure if they could trust them to not be doctored.