Brilliant article about the rape gangs in the UK

[Petrine]

I’ve put this on AIBU as it appears to be most read. A brilliant article about the rape gangs and the ensuing cover up.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/01/07/elon-musk-has-ripped-cloak-of-deceit-off-britain-scandal/

There was a local coverup on a grand scale. Many mistakes were made. It was tragic for the victims. The perpetrators were Muslim men. Some lessons have been learnt. Some have not been learnt. There may or may not be a need for a further inquiry. This is not a new story it has been revived for nefarious purposes. Starner has not sought to cover this up. Neither has Jess Phillips. Musk has a malign agenda to destabilise the UK. The End.

Can you link to the various senior Islamic clerics condemning it?

If a blind eye is actaully being turned to Asian men abusing white girls due to cultural sensitivities and no other reason then why are Asian men being arrested and prosecuted for other crimes?
If The Police were too afraid to act for fear of being accused of racism why are they happy to act when Asian men commit non sex crimes?
I think that a lot of The Polices attitude lies in the background of many of the girls involved, I think that Misogyny in The Police force played a bigger part than so called cultural sensitivities

She said to back off and do your own research and use advance search. So I did.

If someone addresses me, I respond.

If you don’t want a response, don’t post to me.

It's not 'Asian' it's specifically Muslim.
Asian men in general are right to point this out.

Yesterday I learned that although everyone has been shouting at the government this week to release the ethnicity data, the government actually did release the ethnicity data in November. Something that rabble-rousing xenophobic cretins like Robert Jenrick and Chris Philp doubtless already knew.

It turns out that Asian men are actually slightly under-represented as a percentage of offenders, relative to the population, although given the relatively small numbers involved it's probably safest to say that they are neither over- nor under-represented.

The problem, as ever, is not brown people, or Islam. It's men. (And, to be strictly fair, the one or two women who for some reason enable this behaviour - I'm shocked sometimes to see at least one woman in the mugshots.)

This article provides an extract of the figures from the full report, and a link to download it: https://ep.ft.com/permalink/emails/eyJlbWFpbCI6ImM1NWUwNDg0NzVlNzQwZjM5OTc3ZTA3ZjlkN2UyNTVjZjc4ZDQzYzQwNjk3NTIiLCAidHJhbnNhY3Rpb25JZCI6IjU4ODM3M2U3LWNlNGMtNDNkYy05MDcxLTFiMGQ3NDI3MjdiYSIsICJiYXRjaElkIjoiYmRkMjdmNzgtMjljOS00MmQ2LThkMmMtNDBkZWQwYmE4YzIxIn0=

Because both things are true. The police and others in authority are misogynistic, and therefore they and everyone else thought and still think to an extent that "community tensions" were more important. Read the Rotherham council report and Maggie Oliver's work.

I asked why you had not posted in 2022 about the enquiry at the time and you implied you had.

Anyway, happy to leave it, it’s getting circular.

This is a 30-year scandal. It's unreasonable to exclusively blame the Tories for the last 14 years of middling action and not mention the 1997-2010 Labour government's complete lack of action. Or any of the governments before that for that matter.

As I said upthread the Ring leader in our area is Hindu

Elon Musk knows nothing about this country. He needs to just fuck off and sort out the rampant child abuse in America,🙄

That is true, I have had the misfortune to be the victim of sexual abuse at home (male relatives both white), groped by a doctor when I was a very young teenager (male white), beaten and sexually assaulted by someone I met in a nightclub (Male and Black Britsh) and sexually assaulted by a stranger on my way home from work ( male and white). What do all these crimes have in common? I am female and the abusers and attackers were male. And I haven't even bothered to write about the cat calling, being groped at work, leered at, flashed at and so on, you know the everyday low level abuse that all females encounter as they go through life. The problem is that far too many men feel that women are objects that they can do what they want with

This is such a good analogy.

It turns out that Asian men are actually slightly under-represented as a percentage of offenders

They only have data for a third of these men. That's not a reliable claim. Plus there are very many more white men, so you'd need to know the per capita rate. I think male ethnicities are probably all equally represented, but this is whataboutery and nothing to do with this actual phenomenon that has occurred over decades in most large towns in the U.K.

pp pointed out relatively recently that in their town there was a Hindu man as ringleader.

(am i allowed to post on this topic? i have been shouting about abuse and violence against women and girls since... blimey, probably since the invention of mass electronic communication)

I agree that Musk is "jumping on a bandwagon" because he has decided, for some reason, that he wants to destabilise various western countries. That is a separate issue.

The fact is that this is a problem - the mass rapes of young women/girls by gangs - and anyone who has an interest in combatting male VAWAG, women's rights and everything that comes along with those things, SHOULD be shouting about it. Should be pushing their MPs and councils to be taking this seriously. Asking questions when they have the opportunity. And to keep pushing.

And that applies whether the perpetrators are the nice ol' fella who teaches kids swimming in his spare time, groups of Muslims, groups of Hindus, priests (Catholic, protestant or from the church of Satan etc).

Violence and abuse of women and girls (and boys come to that) has been a constant issue since humankind first came down from the trees. And i will not apologise for not stopping talking about it and asking for justice.

This is a 30-year scandal. It's unreasonable to exclusively blame the Tories for the last 14 years of middling action and not mention the 1997-2010 Labour government's complete lack of action. Or any of the governments before that for that matter.

This.

Why did everyone refer to them being Catholic Priests? As if them being priests had anything to do with it?
And the Cathlic church is against cild abuse you know, so they weren't really Catholic...

Because if a phenomenon is occuring in a particular pattern you need to name the pattern to see it.

If you don't name the phenomenon you can't see it, discuss it or address it, it just disappearss into a generality.

If there is a pattern we need to see it name it unedsryand it and change it. Or it will continue.

Pjillops made a perfectly legitimate case for refusing a national enquiry at this stage and has also said that nothing is off the table.

I live and work in Birmingham too I think the fact that you refer to it as a cesspit is pretty telling.

We need to be able to say 'men' without being afraid of it being called sexist hatred.

We need to be able to say 'Church of England' without being afraid of it being called religious hatred.

And in this case, we need to be able to say 'Pakistani' without being afraid of it being called racist hatred.

Fear of these accusations is what turns good people into minimisers of atrocities.

The Jay and Casey reviews and the IOPC have told us that fear of being seen as racist, or of inflaming tensions, helped prolong and exacerbate this torture. We shouldn't continue it here, in my view.

‘brilliant article’ and Allison Pearson do not belong in the same sentence.

’right wing guff’ and ‘thinly veiled islamophobic shitposting’ DO belong in the same sentence as Allison Pearson.

And anyone who believes telegraph journalists or readers give a tiny hoot about working class young girls when it doesn’t suit their agenda to is very gullible.

I think posts like this (and others) conclusively proves that the real threat from sex based violence is actually white British men.

Now that is an issue which needs a serious inquiry. Blaming it on minorities who are far more law abiding and respectful towards women is just diabolical.

Agreed. By extension, don’t pin the blame on Starmer and Jess Phillips.

Musk is a disrupter in a similar vein as Dominic Cummings.

This I agree with.

However it doesn't mean that the issues he's poked at don't need addressing.

Oh yes, no one who reads the Telegraph gives a fuck about the mass gang rape of 11 year old girls, and everyone who consumes the correct, approved media does. Of course 🙄

Julie Bindel was writing about the rape gangs in national press in 2006

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/three-girls-drama-child-sexual-exploitation-rochdale-blackpool-pimping-a7739006.html