Brilliant article about the rape gangs in the UK

[Petrine]

I’ve put this on AIBU as it appears to be most read. A brilliant article about the rape gangs and the ensuing cover up.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/01/07/elon-musk-has-ripped-cloak-of-deceit-off-britain-scandal/

Well said. Thank you.

That is the exact scenario at play here. Jess Phillips was asked to undertake this review by Oldham councillors last summer, she pushed it back to Oldham in December (cane to light January. This is what people are talking about.

So absolutely nothing about the reasons behind these gangs then, all about social services.

Yes, exactly. They don't want to recognise the underlying common elements as a specific thing.

it's misogyny to deny the girls were (and still are) being harmed and to want to sweep this under the carpet for fear of being seen as Islamophobic.

The law should be applied without fear or favour.

What i want to see is justice for harmed women and girls. Always. That is always my number 1 priority: justice for women and girls.

This is getting absurd to the point of harassment of this poster. Why are you so obsessed about 2-3 year old posts (she might have changed user names and doesn’t want to divulge past user names).

Well, i have found this thread shocking.

Yes the media are making this political. But really it should be about justice for the victims. Regardless of political persuasion; any rape/assault should be investigated.

As others (a minority it seems) have said, the reason the 'Pakistani gang's' case gets tensions high is because of the blatant brushing under the carpet; like Saville and co (we were similarly up in arms about that 'white man'), and aren't we glad that was finally investigated; albeit too late.

Lets not leave this too late.

I hope Keir Starmer and the Labour Party make a robust statement on what they intend to do to protect the Pakistani and greater Muslim community in the wake of these outlandish attacks by foreign saboteurs. They must be feeling so alienated right now surrounding the discourse online and in so called media outlets like GB news.

So it will never stop and we’re just expected to suck it up?

I just did AS, there were no posts from you in 2022 or 2023 on actioning the enquiry.

I said I was talking about the issue of these gangs for years, not the toothless "inquiry". It's Labour who are falling back on these recommendations, they're a start but not enough. Then let them get the fuck on with it rather than whining about the "far right".

I agree. Calling Muslims an evil in a good and fair country is Islamophobia.

I think Muslims would be within their rights to think ‘fuck this’ and withdraw into their communities.

So it will never stop and we’re just expected to suck it up?

Never fear, there are toolkits in the pipeline!

i do think it is bonkers to insist that nobody be allowed to talk about anything unless they have been talking about it for years.

People can become aware of various things at any point. Or they might even change their mind/stance on some things.

the MN mantra applies: when people show you who they are, and all that.

Meanwhile. What is important is protecting women and girls. Justice for women and girls. And for that justice to be applied fairly, and to be seen to be applied.

Applying the law without fear or favour is simply not possible in a pluralistic society. There are always going to be communities and identity groups that need greater protections from the dominant culture and that’s just how it is.

I’d rather hear Keir talking about what he is going to do to protect the victims of the child rape gangs tbh

She’s the one who said to look her up.

So you support the sacred caste idea. That's quite an own.

This is getting absurd to the point of harassment of this poster. Why are you so obsessed about 2-3 year old posts (she might have changed user names and doesn’t want to divulge past user names).

Thank you. I have spoken about this issue plenty under this name, just not particularly the inquiry.

Look at it logically? instead of calling people names you don't agree with? not all Tories want an inquiry, just as many Lab want one too.

The new inquiry would be reporting on areas where the new recommendations haven't yet taken place or given time work, so their findings are then out of date.

It would be a mess.

That is why, until very recently the Tories didn't want a new inquiry either & refused Oldham too.

Aside, how many inquiries do you actually want? wouldn't be better to enact the recommendations first?

Personally, i think so many vested interests are now involved, it may be better to, longer term ask the UN or similar to investigate, our inquires seem to take years, by which time its left the public interest.

Broken record.

Labour are already protecting the victims, and they have half a decade to show you just that. Thank god for everybody it’s not the Tories anymore.

That far right gets a kick in popularity whenever those issues come back to spotlight is our own doing - for years people with genuine concerns were shut down and any debate on cultural differences and possible implications was shut down, so no even right wing politicians wanted to discuss it.

We either have difficult but respectful public conversation or we let the groups that are fueled by hatred and prejudice to take over and exploit the topic.

It’s attitudes like yours which have led to the cover up of these disgusting rape gangs.

And can we dump this ridiculous and tired trope of accusing those of us who would like to see justice for the victims dismissed as ‘far right’.

It’s lazy and dangerous.

I have no idea what that even is. Did you get that from a Joe Rogan podcast or something?

Yes young white girls, the victims of the torture and rape gangs need protection from those what appear to be in the dominant culture, in fact so dominant they have spent years twisting the rape of children round so the victims are blamed. I want British society to be protected from that group.

so they shouldn't be punished? Fuck that.
I think it was Rotherham where various council members, apparently "investigating" the grooming gangs were related to some of them and swept it under the carpet.

I took citizenship of the country i live in (hence the name). And i undertook to abide by the laws here. Not laws i think should be here, not special laws that should apply to me because i am not ethnically or culturally from here - all of them. Part of the citizenship process was a test on how much in understand, have read and inwardly digested of the culture and laws here. As well as acquiring at least a particular minimum proficiency in the language.

And i expect the law to apply here to me and everyone else in the same way. As i expect the UK laws to apply to everyone there.