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Brilliant article about the rape gangs in the UK

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Petrine · 08/01/2025 10:07

I’ve put this on AIBU as it appears to be most read. A brilliant article about the rape gangs and the ensuing cover up.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/01/07/elon-musk-has-ripped-cloak-of-deceit-off-britain-scandal/

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/01/2025 15:42

Labour fans aren't averse to "political point scoring" either, are they?

Luminousalumnus · 08/01/2025 15:42

Bernardscheesyhat · 08/01/2025 15:29

If that position was taken by the government I would support it of course. It shouldn’t be done to fulfil the agenda of someone who wants to divide and doesn’t give a monkeys about the people of Oldham or Rochdale.

See I don't care what agendas are at play here. I don't care what Elon Musk wants or what Tommy Robinson believes. I'll judge them by their results. And I have never seen so much light shone on the issue of the rape of underage girls by Pakistani men until Musk involved himself, yes very likely out of bloody mindedness. So what? He's a wanker. I don't care. But now the government WILL start to implement the findings of the initial inquiry.
Starmer was really shaken at pmqs. He knows this won't go away. The government would have swept this whole load of crap under the carpet like the conservatives did, but now the world is watching they can't. Good.

OneAmberFinch · 08/01/2025 15:42

Political point-scoring about Tories this and Labour that is so pointless.

There have been several individual MPs/politicians from both sides who have done what they can to raise awareness over the decades. Several of them have reported being censured by their own parties (from Ann Cryer in Labour in 2003 to Suella Braverman in the Tories in 2023).

Meanwhile Starmer's reforms in the CPS led to more prosecutions going ahead, as did Sunak's grooming gang taskforce.

I'm not denigrating the work of people over the last years/decades - I knew these gangs existed but I'm one of the people who had no idea until this week exactly what they encompassed. The desire for stronger justice, actual justice and not 2-year suspended sentences, a desire that has strengthened within the country since these revelations became widely known, must be met now that this issue is in the spotlight.

And stronger measures must be taken to prevent this particular profile of racialised, war-like violent rape - there is no silver bullet that will solve all sexual abuse everywhere but there are levers we could be pulling to solve this particular pattern that we aren't pulling.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/01/2025 15:43

I think people need to step away from the whataboutery re the Tories. Yes they failed too. Is that now an excuse for Labour to Fail. Whatever your view on musk, he has highlighted a real problem in the UK. A problem everyone agrees is ongoing. So are you going to ignore the continued rape of children because you don’t like the person pointing it out.

We need to get a back bone. We need to investigate why the men in these rape gangs were from a common heritage. We need to find out what link there is, if any between thinking it’s ok to rape and torture thousands of young white girls and the perpetrators culture (the commonality of culture and comments reported by those investigating suggests that there is a link especially when viewed in a wider context). We then need to address the causes and not be restricted by concerns about being PC.

Crimes against children are seen as the lowest of the low in the UK (hence the need for protection in jails). We need to make sure everyone in this country has the same priorities and values, and anyone who does not reflect these values suffers the full force of the law.

Yes.

BIossomtoes · 08/01/2025 15:44

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/01/2025 15:41

Labour were in government when this was happening. Many of the councils involved in covering up are Labour councils. It wasn't all the fault of the Tories however much the Labour fans try to make out that it was.

Really? Not their fault when they completely ignored the Jay report for over two years to the point of it never landing on the Cabinet table? Not their fault when Badenoch has never felt the need to meet with any victim because she deems reading about them enough? Not their fault when they were in power for 14 years? Come on.

PeppyGreenFinch · 08/01/2025 15:45

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/01/2025 15:41

Labour were in government when this was happening. Many of the councils involved in covering up are Labour councils. It wasn't all the fault of the Tories however much the Labour fans try to make out that it was.

Labour were not the government, they didn’t have the power to take the action that the Conservatives in power could have taken but chose not to.

Why didn’t Badenoch raise the issue even once in all her years where she was responsible for Children and Families?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/01/2025 15:45

OneAmberFinch · 08/01/2025 15:42

Political point-scoring about Tories this and Labour that is so pointless.

There have been several individual MPs/politicians from both sides who have done what they can to raise awareness over the decades. Several of them have reported being censured by their own parties (from Ann Cryer in Labour in 2003 to Suella Braverman in the Tories in 2023).

Meanwhile Starmer's reforms in the CPS led to more prosecutions going ahead, as did Sunak's grooming gang taskforce.

I'm not denigrating the work of people over the last years/decades - I knew these gangs existed but I'm one of the people who had no idea until this week exactly what they encompassed. The desire for stronger justice, actual justice and not 2-year suspended sentences, a desire that has strengthened within the country since these revelations became widely known, must be met now that this issue is in the spotlight.

And stronger measures must be taken to prevent this particular profile of racialised, war-like violent rape - there is no silver bullet that will solve all sexual abuse everywhere but there are levers we could be pulling to solve this particular pattern that we aren't pulling.

Edited

Excellent post. I'm not going to indulge any further whataboutery or goadiness or even bang on about how rubbish I think the government are. It's not the issue here.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 08/01/2025 15:46

HelenaWaiting · 08/01/2025 15:33

Why didn't it blow your mind under the last government? It's been public knowledge for years. There was even a TV drama about it.

I agree, @HelenaWaiting . I remember threads here after the airing of that drama - albeit focussing g more on the appalling suffering of the girls and the inaction (rather than skin co,our/ethnicity/religion of the men). Why do you think it's only now people's minds are blown? Is it as straightforward as racism and Islamophobia?

PeppyGreenFinch · 08/01/2025 15:47

Luminousalumnus · 08/01/2025 15:42

See I don't care what agendas are at play here. I don't care what Elon Musk wants or what Tommy Robinson believes. I'll judge them by their results. And I have never seen so much light shone on the issue of the rape of underage girls by Pakistani men until Musk involved himself, yes very likely out of bloody mindedness. So what? He's a wanker. I don't care. But now the government WILL start to implement the findings of the initial inquiry.
Starmer was really shaken at pmqs. He knows this won't go away. The government would have swept this whole load of crap under the carpet like the conservatives did, but now the world is watching they can't. Good.

If you weren't aware then that was your own doing.

The issue has been covered in acres of articles and thousand of hours of media.

White grooming gangs get nowhere this much coverage.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 08/01/2025 15:47

PeppyGreenFinch · 08/01/2025 15:39

The Conservatives did nothing for 14 years.

Labour have been in power for 6 months and Jess Phillips has spent her life trying to safeguard girls.

How are they the same?

Quite!

Halfemptyhalfling · 08/01/2025 15:48

nonbinaryfinery · 08/01/2025 11:49

Full article even tho I'm sick of hearing his name:

Elon Musk has ripped the cloak of deceit off one of Britain’s most disgusting scandals
Starmer’s denunciation of Musk for ‘spreading lies and misinformation’ about Muslim child-rape gangs is an orchestra of discordant duplicity

Allison Pearson
07 January 2025 9:01pm GMT

Once upon a time there was a good and fair country and people who lived in countries that were neither good nor fair travelled to that land and made it their home because they knew it to be kind. But some men who made that land their home brought the values of countries that were neither kind nor fair with them. Such men hated the female children they found in the good and fair country. The girls were white but not chaste; they were dirty unbelievers who went about unaccompanied as if they were boys. They disgusted the men, and they tempted them, which made them hate the female children even more. The monsters, for that is what the men became over time, caused savage harm to thousands of girls – so many that no one is yet sure of the number and may never be, for some were lost or killed. And the monsters drugged and bribed them, they made them sex slaves, branding the girls’ flesh with their initials, ramming large implements into their tiny bodies the better to accommodate four men.

This may be hard to comprehend, dear reader, but the people of that enlightened land did not protect their daughters. I’m sorry to say they abandoned them to their fate. Police, whose duty it was to look after the most vulnerable, either arrested the girls, dismissed their pleas for help or left them with their tormentors. For that famously kind and decent land had fallen under a strange enchantment, which was called multiculturalism. It said that, no matter how wicked or cruel the men were to the children, you must never speak of it. The dark spell, and what a powerful spell it was (enough to vanquish justice and compassion), caused any who dared to say that* Pakistani Muslim men *were targeting white girls to become the bad people. Because all cultures are equal, you see, even ones that don’t believe in equality or which agree that girls who aren’t virgins are whores and deserve to be punished.

And those who struggled against the powerful spell that stifled their countrymen were called racist. And to be racist or bigoted or “far-Right” was to be far more hateful than any hatred inflicted on female children,* *or so the people of the good and fair country were told by their leaders.

And when the monsters swore at the children whom they were raping, saying, “White slag!” “White c—!” – well, that wasn’t at all racist. Because multiculturalism and the BBC* *say it cannot be so.

A few brave women (Julie, Ann, Maggie, Sarah) who woke from the enchantment and warned young girls were in danger from British Pakistani men* *were banished and forced to apologise for being “reckless in my choice of words”. Or they lost their seat in the shadow Cabinet.

And the evil – a vast, suppurating evil such as the land had not known for a thousand years – continued to blight that good and fair country. The authorities colluded to make sure the hatred must never speak its name, and the girls carried their lonely torment within them and their rapists got access to the babies they had impregnated them with. (Oh, yes, they did. So strong was the multicultural enchantment it made people surrender the values they had been born to.)
And the monsters were not banished from the good and fair country, not one of them sent back to countries that were neither good nor fair, in case their human rights were breached.

Then, one day, the richest man in the whole wide world came along and broke the dark spell. Elon had read court transcripts telling what those monsters had done to the female children, and he could not believe such unfathomable depravity had taken root in the good and fair country. Because of his great wealth, Elon could not be intimidated into agreeing that thousands of white girls should have been used as a peace offering to placate the gods of multiculturalism. His righteous wrath shamed the cowardly leaders of the land and in their panic they cried “Misinformation!” But the people were having none of it. For they were awake now and they saw what horrors the brutes had been allowed to get away with. As the wicked enchantment lifted, the malevolent myth of multiculturalism was unmasked, the country slowly but surely recovered its senses and demanded the guilty be found and punished, even unto the highest in the land.

As this is a fairytale, I guess it would be nice to say that they all lived happily ever after. Yet, even after it was agreed all the monsters would be deported to great national rejoicing, there was a terrible stain on the good and fair country’s history that would never quite be expunged. It stood shamed before the civilized world. And in the national memory, lodged forever it seemed, were the anguished, tortured, frightened cries of those who were allowed to suffer and die to avoid stirring up racial hatred.

The girls. The girls. The girls.
‘Shame and devastating sadness’
Sir Keir Starmer has no idea what he’s up against. Not this time. Since he entered Downing Street six intolerable months ago, the Prime Minister’s ability to strike exactly the wrong note on any given occasion has never failed him, but his denunciation of Elon Musk for “spreading lies and misinformation” about Pakistani-heritage Muslim child-rape gangs is a whole orchestra of discordant deceit. Many Britons feel deeply grateful that the billionaire owner of X (formerly Twitter) was moved to intervene in this disgusting scandal, I suspect, and Musk has certainly provoked more soul-searching in 10 days than Westminster managed in 10 years. The Prime Minister’s imputation that those who want a full-throated national inquiry into the evil gangs, and the cowardly state apparatchiks who covered them up, were simply seeking to “jump on a bandwagon of the far-Right” is obscene.

Apparently, thousands of survivors who endured mass rape as children (20 men awaiting their turn downstairs, one woman recalled) are far-Right for wanting answers and accountability. Is it far-Right, Prime Minister, to object that your primary torturer was released early after a derisory sentence and now lurks menacingly outside your home?

That’s what has happened to Liz, who still lives in Rotherham. Liz tells me she wants a “collective inquiry to show the depth of what’s happened and to go after those who failed us”. Like other victims of Pakistani rape gangs, Liz is disgusted with the strange, soulless man who had the chance at his Monday press conference to speak for the whole nation. He could have expressed the shame and devastating sadness we feel that such bestial crimes should have been committed here, and for so long. Instead, Sir Keir spoke out of narrow party self-interest, only sounding vaguely passionate when addressing what really troubles him: Islamophobia.

Exactly as he did back in July after the massacre of children in Southport. Berated by a crowd of locals whom he refused to speak to after hastily laying a wreath, Starmer couldn’t wait to dash to a mosque where he vowed to “take every step possible” to keep the Muslim community safe. That meant creating a new violent disorder unit to deal with all the “far-Right thugs” who, for some reason, objected to three little girls at a Taylor Swift dance class being slaughtered. Can’t think why.

People on social media who, in the heat of the moment, posted deeply unsavoury, inflammatory reactions or retweeted “conspiracy theories” were arrested and jailed with an alacrity and force that was entirely absent when it came to catching the foul fiends who committed some of the most despicable crimes imaginable.* *(One police officer explained to a distraught father that his daughter being raped might actually “teach her a lesson”.)

In both cases, we see the same sly, leftie-liberal playbook. Minimise the rape/killing/trafficking of young girls. Call it “grooming” and not what it is: raping children. Refuse to disclose the ethnic identity of the perpetrators to prevent “racism”. Accuse anyone who mentions the religion or ethnicity of the perpetrators of bigotry and “dog-whistle” politics. Under pressure, admit that the perpetrators are “Asians” (to the understandable anger of Sikhs, Hindus and Christians). Deflect attention from the sheer stomach-churning horror of the crimes and the wild, unappeasable sorrow of the victims and switch the focus to the “inappropriate” language or “harmful rhetoric” of people who are prepared to call out the most depraved assaults and most shocking cover-up in British history.

Sir Keir genuinely seems more outraged about Elon Musk calling safeguarding minister Jess Phillips a “genocidal rape apologist” for her refusal to authorise a national inquiry into the Oldham scandal (she insists the council can have its own inquiry) than he is about the 12-year-old who was driven at night to a Yorkshire wood where she was forced to give oral sex to at least 10 men (more cars kept arriving as word spread) before being left alone in the dark.

If a prime minister can’t empathise, just for a few seconds, with the terror that child experienced then he shouldn’t be leading the country. But Starmer was clearly far more at ease saying he was “very shocked and angered” at the killing of George Floyd, a black American for whom he fell to one knee. As I have learnt since Essex police called on me over an alleged hate crime, British institutions, from Parliament to the police, are obsessed with “protected characteristics” enshrined in the Equality Act. In 2013, if you were a white working-class kid in care in Keighley, who was passed around from uncle to cousin to nephew, forget it. No characteristics worth protecting, love. In fact, in the unlikely event that poor child had ever plucked up courage to go to the council or the police, her complaint would have been viewed as unhelpful to the greater goal of anti-racism and diversity. Had the ethnic profiles been reversed – the child was black or Muslim and the bastards who pimped her out white – you can bet we would never have heard the end of it. The British Establishment had something in common with the rapists: they saw the girls as white trash.

Viewing everything through the prism of race is a disease of the elite liberal and bureaucratic class, not just here but throughout a self-loathing Western world which sees merit in every culture but its own. In a response on X to Musk and the rape-gangs scandal, the historian and Times columnist Sathnam Sanghera posted: “Of course, the vivid fear of ‘innocent white women’ being violated by brown men was one of the great drivers of British imperial racism.” Does Sanghera actually think thousands of brutalised white girls in up to 50 British towns and villages from Rochdale to Oxford made up their ordeals in order to cast racist aspersions on innocent brown men? He quickly deleted his tweet after it caused outrage, so maybe it was just fashionable posturing, but revealing for all that. Holding the opinion that non-white people are somehow always victims is a sign of social superiority, marking one out from ghastly fascist proles like Tommy Robinson. Whatever Robinson’s manifold flaws, he inspires huge loyalty among his supporters because he has fought like a lion for girls from his social class. Girls who former Labour home secretary Jack Straw admitted were regarded as “easy meat” by some of his Pakistani constituents.

Thanks to all the big-hearted, bien-pensant apologists for child rapists – including Labour politicians increasingly dependent on the Muslim vote–- our international reputation is in the gutter. In the US, The Free Press ran a major article this week headlined: “The Biggest Peacetime Crime – and Cover-up – in British History”. How did our society sink to these depths of depravity? It is clear that every tier of the system is implicated in the whitewash.

Lucy Allan, who was the Conservative MP for Telford from 2015-2024, explained to me how even those who do try to fight for the victims are thwarted and obstructed. After she’d met survivors in her Shropshire town, Allan started speaking out in Parliament. The pushback was intense. “There was a co-ordinated official response by people in positions of power.* Shaun Davies, Telford Council Leader (now the town’s Labour MP), immediately published a letter to the Home Secretary stating that no inquiry into Child Sexual Exploitation (CSE) was necessary. He backed up his assertion with claims that we now know were false. Multiple senior men were asked to be co-signatories to his claims and they all readily agreed.” Instead of trying to right heinous wrongs, Telford councillors set about discrediting the messengers. Lucy Allan was accused of “lying, causing division, racism, being unbalanced, irrational, stupid and motivated not by a desire to help victims but to score political points. This narrative was relentlessly pushed for as long as I campaigned on the issue. *It had the intended effect of ensuring that the voice I sought to be for victims would not be heard.”

Lucy Allan, the former Conservative MP for Telford, was accused of ‘lying, racism and trying to score political points’ Credit: Andrew Fox

Most extraordinary was an unexpected visit the MP received from Anthony Bangham, then the Chief Constable of West Mercia, and John Campion, the Police and Crime Commissioner. “The Chief Constable was disparaging about Rotherham MP Sarah Champion, suggesting she was exaggerating the grooming gangs issue and was discredited,” Lucy recalls. “He said: ‘You wouldn’t want to be known as a troublemaker like Sarah Champion. It will harm your reputation and career.’” Since when is it the role of a chief constable to warn a democratically-elected MP not to campaign for her traumatised constituents?
Even Allan’s Conservative colleagues could be disapproving. “The newly-minted Junior Minister for Safeguarding, Vicky Atkins, told me not to speak to the media on the subject as ‘you do not understand the issues’. I was summoned by Conservative Peer Baroness Warsi to explain myself.”

Lucy Allan came up against the oft-repeated refrain that, as 90 per cent of child abuse is committed by white men in domestic settings, why didn’t she concern herself with that as it was a more significant problem? She saw this as “a blatant denial of the existence of groups of inter-related men of Pakistani heritage preying on young girls at school gates, in takeaways, taxis and playgrounds. They did not want to know.”
Victims were often blamed, she says, with one young girl being described by police as “‘having been in contact with 53 different Asian males’ as if it were by choice! There was complete denial that these men were related to each other through cousin marriage and were engaged in a joint enterprise.”

Now that she has lost her seat, Allan is free to deliver a brutally honest verdict. “The people in power believed that being honest about what had happened to the girls would fuel racial tensions. They pushed a narrative that hiding the problem was in the interests of the community, that looking the other way would cement social cohesion and protect society.” That line, Lucy now knows for a fact, was pushed by Home Office officials. She has watched as junior ministers, both Conservative and Labour, have spun the same lines, “almost word for word, clearly at the behest of civil servants”.

That “denial strategy” may once have been well-intentioned (a noble lie), but those who enforced it – from the House of Commons to the police stations to the BBC – became the enemies of justice, the willing accomplices of the Devil. The social contract between the state and the individual is in tatters. They lied to us, and the public knows they lied.

What now? The Government tells us there is no need for another national inquiry, instead they will implement the recommendations of the 2022 Jay report on child sexual abuse (CSA). But CSA is not the same as Group Localised Child Sexual Exploitation (GLCSE), which describes the horrendous and co-ordinated abuse by primarily Pakistani-heritage Muslim rape gangs in towns like Rotherham, Rochdale and Oxford, places the 2022 inquiry didn’t even take into account. This is not about mainly white paedophiles, bad though they are. And it certainly can’t be left, as Jess Phillips suggests, to councils like Oldham to investigate themselves when many councillors are drawn from the same intensely tribal community as the offenders.
‘The failed model of multiculturalism must be opened up to scrutiny’

We must do what the girls want. They went unheard for so long. And if they want a national inquiry into the British Pakistani child-rape gangs – call them what they are, no obfuscation, no denial, no soothing words – then they must have it. Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch has rightly said that she will try to insert a clause pledging such an inquiry into the Children’s Wellbeing and Schools Bill on Wednesday – let’s see which MP is foolish enough not to support it. The failed model of multiculturalism must be opened up to scrutiny and a furious public will be entitled to hear why, if it was such a brilliant idea, it could only be maintained via orchestrated deception by the media, the police and most of the political class. All of the rapists who hold dual nationality must be deported. Millions of us would vote for that, wouldn’t we?

Thanks to Elon Musk the multiculturalism cloak of denial and deceit has been ripped off and the left are suddenly revealed to have no clothes. On the Today programme yesterday, Nick Robinson tried to demolish Robert Jenrick with talk of harmful “rhetoric” and accusations that Jenrick was seeking to limit immigration to the UK from what he called “alien cultures”. So what? Insulting and betraying the interests of the white majority doesn’t work any more, Nick. The shadow justice secretary stood his ground. In his calm, unrattled confidence, you detected that he knew now that he was talking for Britain and would not be afraid to do so. “We have seen millions of people enter the UK in recent years and some of them have backward, frankly medieval attitudes to women”.

You know, as the debate over Musk’s “interference” rages and Labour sees the edifice of diversity politics crashing around their ears, and Starmer looks more inhuman by the day, it’s easy to forget what this is about. Why it matters so very much. Over the weekend, I made myself read the sentencing remarks of His Honour Judge Peter Rook after the trial of Akhtar Dogar, Anjum Dogar, Kamar Jamil, Mohammed Karrar and Basam Karrar. My God. In paragraph after paragraph, the judge outlines what those Pakistani-heritage brutes did to their victims. Less like sexual abuse than the kind of atrocities you encounter only in wartime. “Years of sheer torture .. great brutality.. robbed of their adolescence… torment and distress.. apart from using her for your own sexual gratification you coerced her into providing sex to vast numbers of strangers. Up to four or five men would be invited to addresses so they could have sex with her. Customers would become angry. Strangers would burn her with cigarettes. Slapped. She said the men had a ‘pack mentality’. Grabbing her by the ponytail and forcing her head down onto his penis. Drink and drugs to make them more malleable. One inserted a hairbrush into her vagina. She suffers from self-loathing. Nightmares, panic attacks, flashbacks, PTSD. Despite being the victim she carries with her a great burden of shame and embarrassment… one of vaginal rape, one of oral rape, one of arranging child prostitution, wilful blindness by the authorities, wicked plan to punish her for lying that she had her period, one of vaginal rape, one of oral rape, rape, rape, rape.”
It’s not bearable to read about as an adult, so imagine what it must have felt like to live through it if you were 13 years old. My heart broke when I came to this part: “Her mother describes how by the time you had finished with her there was not much left of her apart from her aggression. You took her soul. She felt as though it had been ripped out.”
We are so sorry that happened to you, sweet girl, whoever you are. And we will not rest until those responsible are brought to account. Until you have compensation. We will not allow men who hate white women and girls, who think we are lower than cattle, to breathe the same air as us. We owe you that much.

Edited

Starmer and his team worked hard to begin the prosecutions. It was first time this had happened in the UK so no wonder they were slow. Now that there has been a big enquiry it's important to put things in place to prevent anything further happening again. The conservatives jumping on musk bandwagon will slow things down

By removing moderators and fact checkers from x, musk has made a less safer place including for white girls

ThreeLocusts · 08/01/2025 15:48

If you care about the facts rather than about bashing the current government, I suggest you listen to this:

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiI-sB2HmD8

dcbgr · 08/01/2025 15:48

|b) Abolish the rule of law and right to legal representation? Even the Nazis at Nuremberg had the right to legal representation. FFS\

When did I say this? I said re-visit the rules around what constitutes a right to stay in the UK. For example, currently the law said that a Congolese guy who raped his daughter and niece had a right to stay in the UK because deporting would interfere with his "human right to a family life".

I would re-state the law saying that dual nationality citizens who rape people are not entitled to stay in the UK even if that means their family life will be disrupted. Do you seriously think sending home child-rapists is a crime against humanity? Are you seriously arguing that we should allow foreign child-rapists to stay in the UK? That this is something we are obliged to accept and put up with and we cannot as a people can say "No thanks" and send them home?

If the law is an ass, you change the law. That is not a crime against humanity.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/01/2025 15:49

Not their fault when they were in power for 14 years? Come on.

Try to read posts better @BIossomtoes I said it wasn't all their fault that the recommendations, which still have not been implemented, have not been. I didn't say it wasn't their fault.

namechangeGOT · 08/01/2025 15:49

@RotherhamLass

My friend got pregnant. She didn't know who (out of the 23 men who raped her) the father was. But her loving boyfriend, drug dealer and trafficker wasn't happy and he beat her to the point that she miscarried. And do you know what he did to her while she was having the miscarriage? Not after or before but DURING the miscarriage? Him and friends raped her again.

There are streets and areas in Rotherham that are still not safe to walk down if you are white. I attended TRC for a-levels, complaints by particular councillors that college canteen was still open during Ramadan which was deemed unfair on the fasting students meant that the canteen was closed down - we had to go to the Belvedere pub next door for dinner or into town. It was done for 'cohesion'. Rotherham during the 90's and 2000s was a hotbed of authorities bending over backwards to appease a minority so as not to offend or cause a backlash. All at the cost of little girls suffering torture that the stupid, virtue signalling wet wipes on here cannot fucking fathom.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/01/2025 15:50

If you care about the facts rather than about bashing the current government, I suggest you listen to this:

James O'Brien is a misogynistic twit, so no thanks.

Feelingathomenow · 08/01/2025 15:50

PeppyGreenFinch · 08/01/2025 15:40

Muslims will rightly pull away from those who are racist to them.

And then of course they will be accused of not integrating.

It is the responsibility of those moving into a culture to integrate into it. If people don’t want to integrate into a culture, why do they chose to live in it.

I moved to a different part of the UK with quite a different culture, I set about understanding the local culture, made sure I supported local traditions and businesses. If I had gone round rejecting the local culture, criticising it, demanding things were changed to meet with my old way of life. If I started moaning things weren’t happening fast enough, that the roads were too narrow, that a few shops and businesses closed in winter, that people had different slang that I at first didn’t understand, that the steep narrow roads weren’t all gritted I would most likely have been rejected by the locals, quite fairly I think. But then if those things were a concern I wouldn’t be living here.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/01/2025 15:51

My friend got pregnant. She didn't know who (out of the 23 men who raped her) the father was. But her loving boyfriend, drug dealer and trafficker wasn't happy and he beat her to the point that she miscarried. And do you know what he did to her while she was having the miscarriage? Not after or before but DURING the miscarriage? Him and friends raped her again.

There are streets and areas in Rotherham that are still not safe to walk down if you are white. I attended TRC for a-levels, complaints by particular councillors that college canteen was still open during Ramadan which was deemed unfair on the fasting students meant that the canteen was closed down - we had to go to the Belvedere pub next door for dinner or into town. It was done for 'cohesion'. Rotherham during the 90's and 2000s was a hotbed of authorities bending over backwards to appease a minority so as not to offend or cause a backlash. All at the cost of little girls suffering torture that the stupid, virtue signalling wet wipes on here cannot fucking fathom.

I'm so sorry about your friend Flowers

BIossomtoes · 08/01/2025 15:51

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/01/2025 15:49

Not their fault when they were in power for 14 years? Come on.

Try to read posts better @BIossomtoes I said it wasn't all their fault that the recommendations, which still have not been implemented, have not been. I didn't say it wasn't their fault.

Of course it’s all their fault. Who was in power in 2022? Which government received the report and sat on it for over two years? Who else could legitimately be blamed?

endofthelinefinally · 08/01/2025 15:51

One of the men jailed for organising a rape gang was the safeguarding lead on the local council. Lots of the local officials were the brothers/ cousins/ fathers of gang members. Female mps/ teachers/ nurses/ detectives/ social workers were threatened, sacked and silenced. Maggie Oliver has spent decades trying to raise awareness after she was threatened and silenced. She has all the evidence. I hope people will listen to her and not be put off just because Musk has started making a noise. If this had been dealt with properly in the first place we wouldn't be in such a mess now. What happened and is still happening to those poor children is a disgrace.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 08/01/2025 15:52

dcbgr · 08/01/2025 15:48

|b) Abolish the rule of law and right to legal representation? Even the Nazis at Nuremberg had the right to legal representation. FFS\

When did I say this? I said re-visit the rules around what constitutes a right to stay in the UK. For example, currently the law said that a Congolese guy who raped his daughter and niece had a right to stay in the UK because deporting would interfere with his "human right to a family life".

I would re-state the law saying that dual nationality citizens who rape people are not entitled to stay in the UK even if that means their family life will be disrupted. Do you seriously think sending home child-rapists is a crime against humanity? Are you seriously arguing that we should allow foreign child-rapists to stay in the UK? That this is something we are obliged to accept and put up with and we cannot as a people can say "No thanks" and send them home?

If the law is an ass, you change the law. That is not a crime against humanity.

You said it in point b) of your original post 🤷‍♀️

Eyresandgraces · 08/01/2025 15:52

PeppyGreenFinch · 08/01/2025 15:40

Muslims will rightly pull away from those who are racist to them.

And then of course they will be accused of not integrating.

Young white girls may well be advised to avoid Pakistani men.

And then of course they’ll be accused of racism.

lifeturnsonadime · 08/01/2025 15:52

namechangeGOT · 08/01/2025 15:49

@RotherhamLass

My friend got pregnant. She didn't know who (out of the 23 men who raped her) the father was. But her loving boyfriend, drug dealer and trafficker wasn't happy and he beat her to the point that she miscarried. And do you know what he did to her while she was having the miscarriage? Not after or before but DURING the miscarriage? Him and friends raped her again.

There are streets and areas in Rotherham that are still not safe to walk down if you are white. I attended TRC for a-levels, complaints by particular councillors that college canteen was still open during Ramadan which was deemed unfair on the fasting students meant that the canteen was closed down - we had to go to the Belvedere pub next door for dinner or into town. It was done for 'cohesion'. Rotherham during the 90's and 2000s was a hotbed of authorities bending over backwards to appease a minority so as not to offend or cause a backlash. All at the cost of little girls suffering torture that the stupid, virtue signalling wet wipes on here cannot fucking fathom.

Just appalling.

Flowers
bodydrain · 08/01/2025 15:52

Hoppinggreen · 08/01/2025 11:40

Elon Musk can fuck right off frankly
If I want to read about this I will find a credible source thank you very much.
Why has MN become such a popular place for Musk fans at the moment?

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This ^

Bromptotoo · 08/01/2025 15:53

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/01/2025 14:41

Do people actually think the "Bad Enoch" thing is witty and clever? Confused

Like the term 'remoaners' it was mildly funny first time out but son loses currency when repeated.

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