Brilliant article about the rape gangs in the UK

[Petrine]

I’ve put this on AIBU as it appears to be most read. A brilliant article about the rape gangs and the ensuing cover up.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/01/07/elon-musk-has-ripped-cloak-of-deceit-off-britain-scandal/

Dear HappyPanda I am so sorry that you are an unhappy panda in tears about an imaginary non-existent Pakistani mother in Oldham. Maybe try and extend some of that empathy to raped and tortured children in Oldham and Rochester.

Try now and imagine them and their life. Upstairs, drugged, drunk terrified with 20 men lining up downstairs to rape them. They got abused by the Asian gangs, let-down by social services, ignored by society and journalists.

They never got recognised or compensated for their suffering. Their rapists and torturers usually got minimal or no sentences and rarely if never deported. The recommendations of the 2022 report have not been implemented.

We all have a limited amount of sympathy to give. I am keeping mine for the several hundred thousand real, raped, tortured white English girls before I start handing it out to your imaginary Oldham mother.

You can accept what EM highlights and agree whilst also knowing he's a questionable individual all at once.

I feel like that about T Robinson. I believe there's something in what he's saying on some things. However, as an individual his behaviour and wider views I find worrying and I won't align with. I agree it's dangerous.

The bigger problem that people are highlighting and I have to agree is what we all focus our attention on because of Social Media, the medias alignment and personalised internet.

Can I believe there are equally horrendous things going on and maybe worse that don't involve race and religion? Yes. Are we focusing on that? No. Why? Maybe we don't know enough, aren't being told or just don't want to.

It reminds me of the 'all people on benefits are scabs' mentality, yet, the Royal Family are probably the biggest scabs dressed up in nice clothes and no one will ever want to accept this or put the spotlight where it probably actually belongs. People who are upset about benefit spongers ( in their mind) are probably more vocal than voices opposing the RFamily, who are probably the greatest scabs I believe. Goodness knows what they're doing at our expense that we don't know about. No one is interested though. Or the corruption and crimes against children committed in different circles that don't involve a clash of religious and cultural positions.

It's very difficult to discern who is ' far right' ( I believe many are not but are just focusing on things under their nose without realising there's a whole lot of other crap outside of race and religion going on that's scary, wrong and impacts vulnerable people significantly.)

I want someone with power and influence to shine a spotlight on some significant injustices going on outside of race and religion. Elon can you please bang on about how much financial exploitation is occurring at the hands of institutions such as the Royal Family Dicks and the reality of how it is for a normal person trying to access treatment in the NHS right now?

Can someone please explain why everyone was crying over the fucking queen when thousands of wonderful deserving old people were simultaneously dying alone in a run down, unfit for purpose NHS ?

Duh! Of course they all needed and have had enquiries. What we don’t need is a new inquiry just because Musk got bored one morning and decided to stir up some race hate with a decade old scandal.

Oh dear, how terrible, or maybe that young Pakistani woman has far worse things to be frightened of.

I cannot paste a link to this article, for some reason by try reading this article, by the female Pakistani Canadian journalist Hina Husain.

Google "Pakistani child sex abuse is an open secret, The Rotherham groomers were protected by their own", it's in Unherd

This is a passage from the article

In the liberal West, just implying that Pakistani communities have high rates of child sexual abuse (CSA) can result in accusations of bigotry. The subject is even more unmentionable in Pakistan itself. The nation has one of the highest rates of child sexual abuse in the world: over half a million children are raped there every year. (That is a conservative estimate.) According to recent reports, children are most at risk from the age of six, with nine being the most common age to be raped.
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And I think a lot of the police were racist and thought that they girls deserved what they got because they were prepared to have Pakistani boyfriends.

You put it so well 👏

Look at the Torygraph duplicity here. They’re calling the enquiry that was completed in 2022 ‘Labour-backed’ instead of Tory commissioned. There is no mention of Tory inaction since 2022.

How does anyone take this paper seriously?!

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A child sex abuse inquiry backed by Labour did not properly investigate grooming gangs, critics have said.
The Government, under pressure to set up a statutory inquiry into the scandal, has pointed to the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA) over the past week to insist the topic had been covered at a national level.
On Sunday, [Labour] again dismissed demands for a new inquiry, claiming the problem had been covered by the IICSA, which reported in 2022.
He denied the Government’s reluctance to announce an inquiry was linked to the “dominant ethnicity” of the gangs involved, adding: “The reason we’re not doing another national inquiry is because there’s already been a national inquiry.”

But while a section of the £180 million report did look into child sexual exploitation by organised networks, the focus on grooming gangs was extremely limited and did not hear evidence about the scandals in towns such as Rotherham, Rochdale and Oxford.

https://archive.ph/8PHWi

What we don’t need is a new inquiry just because Musk got bored one morning and decided to stir up some race hate with a decade old scandal.

But it's not just Musk, and it's not a "decades old scandal", it's very much ongoing. You have no clue.

It doesn't matter who publicised the scandal.

Are you objecting to the fact that ITV publicised the PO scandal?

Or maybe we could consider the young white women from Bradford or Oldham, or Sikh women before them, who lives were ruined in this scandal who come on this forum as parents to find that many posters think we should just ignore what happened to them in the interests of community cohension (which if you are from any of these towns, you will also know is an utter sham on any case). Your argument is ridiculous. Of course young women from any culture are welcomed here for parenting advice. You would presume they would be as aghast as anyone about the abuse discussed in this thread.

What about a new enquiry because the councillors of Oldham don’t think the issues have been sufficiently flushed out in their town and girls are still at risk. They would rather this is done nationally because they don’t think a local one will be sufficiently independent (do a bit of digging and you’ll find out why)

Absolutely

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Can you list the 20 recommendations and what the Conservative government did with each one?

Since you say you have a clue?

Cases of historic sexual abuse perpetrated by tv personalities like Jimmy Savile, those in the Church, teachers at private schools etc are still being investigated and the general public are rightfully horrified by them. Part of those investigations involve understanding how the cover ups happened and how to prevent them occurring again. Why should we not investigate the common factors in these cases of child rape and abuse to understand why these particular incidents happened and were ignored for so long? It doesn’t mean that mass abuse cases involving other parts of society would not be now be investigated.

Jess Phillips was already working on the actions, there was need for Elon to make her a target for the far right.

Quite. BBC (?) interview of Jenrick too on similar point

Yes the victims needed justice some were treated appallingly. However some perpetrators got long sentences. Also you can’t deport a British person.

Nowhere, in her vast incontinent deluge of purple prose, does Allison Pearson mention the failure of her crush Boris Johnson to address the sexual abuse scandal. In fact he described money spent on an inquiry as being spaffed up against a wall.

It's not a brilliant article its is channelling Musk, trying to stoke up hatred and politicise serious issues for their own ends

To be fair about Pearson, she does write quite good 'chick lit'...

@PeppyGreenFinch it's both the Conservatives and Labour who have done fuck all about them to date. There's a list of them all with updates on the main thread in FWR.

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While Pakistani Muslim men are over-represented as a % of population in grooming gangs, it worries me that the current discourse seems to be glossing over the fact that the majority of these sort of horrific crimes are perpetrated by white men. The focus needs to be on ALL the men, not just the ones the right wing deem guilty.