To think that Musk is now overstepping himself and the UK gvt should threaten action

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Musk has just posted this on twitter (among other unhinged tweets). To me this reads as a thinly veiled threat to democratically elected UK MPs and actually the UK government should consider sanctions to the US if he continues this attack when he enters the White House?

He's a private individual (not an elected politician or royal family member), who is under no obligation to keep his opinions to himself. He has business interests in the UK, so that gives him yet another reason to offer his opinion just as rich Brit businesspeople do.
There is no law against having an opinion and shouting it out, especially if you have a platform to do so. Ignore what you don't like.
I'm happy for someone to speak up in support of the victims of illegal immigrant rapists - Why shouldn't they be deported?

Btw, Why did Harry open his gob to support Hillary Clinton vs Trump? Why did Labour reps go to the US to campaign for the Labour Party?

Imo the Trump/Musk marriage is not going to last. Trump will realise (or be told) that Musk is overstepping the mark

I've long taken the view that Trump et al would probably rather have him "inside the tent pissing out" than the other way round, @maudelovesharold ... at least that way there's some hope of reining him in when necessary

The UK economy is built on immigration. Look at how many healthcare professionals are immigrants. Coming over here, healing our sick and injured
Are you suggesting we don't need these people?

Edited to add the PP was talking about the deportation of convicted criminals, @randomchap, and whatever else those coming over to work in our caring services may be I'd hope they're not that

How many of them are rapists though? Are we that desperate that we now need rapists to work in the NHS?

Yes. Delete X. Don't buy a Tesla. Ignore him. He isn't a statesman, he doesn't deserve the attention of one

@randomchap @AlisonDonut is taking about those who commit crimes in the UK.

I think Elon bringing it up is a great thing overall. Yes, he's unhinged but at least we are now talking about it.

Any sanctions against the US would absolutely fuck us over, so that's not possible.

She was saying that we shouldn't accept immigration from countries that won't accept their rapists back.

That's not going to work as a solution as we need immigrants. Our economy and nhs would collapse without them.

It's a simplistic idea that will not work. Obviously a solution needs to be found but that isn't it

Gross tbh

This exactly.

I'm actually shocked that people are outraged about him to be honest.

They'd much rather the rape and torture of thousands of children was swept under the carpet so they can continue with their faux 'right-on' leftie clap-trap.

You misunderstood, deliberately maybe?

She was saying that we shouldn't accept immigrants from countries who don't accept their rapists back. This is not a viable solution.

I was not in any way implying that the healthcare professionals that move here are rapists. I was saying that we need immigration and there's no way her solution would work

We need workers, not rapists.

What industry do you think is short of rapists??

Again she was saying that we shouldn't accept immigrants from countries that won't take their rapists back. You appear to have misunderstood my response

We do need a solution but what she suggested isn't it

YABU for posting another musk thread.

@RingoJuice and @yohohoCrimbo the defence lawyers are not morally bankrupt, they are there to provide defence for the defendant. That is their legal duty. I don't suppose they take any joy whatsoever in defending such dreadful people but our legal system ensures that we all have the right to defence and a fair trial.

This is absolute nonsense. Starmer has a known track record of doing more to bring rapists to justice than any other DPP. We have had three inquiries whose recommendations were not put in place by the previous government despite having a very long time to do so. The Labour government is now rectifying that.

So why didn't Labour lead with that in their communications? Instead of making it about Musk?

@FKAT he did, by stating that they were enacting the recommendations but Tories had not though they were using this as an opportunity to try and rewrite an untrue narrative and gain political capital by aligning themselves to those who seek to interfere in the UK's democracy.

He didn't mention Musk by name, to do so would hand him the power, he spoke about the wider issue of bad actors, sowing lies to divide nations and cause political discord, illustrated perfectly by the arguments in this thread.

Watch it again

Setting aside all the other comments, this has been asked and not answered several times on this thread.

Could somebody please point to the ACTUAL VOTE on deporting foreign born rapists?

Because there has never been such a vote in the UK, but if there were to be a vote on not letting in foreign born rapists, both Trump and Musk would be banned.

If countries don't want their criminals back, then all citizen immigration from that country ceases until a deal to take them back is made and signed

A bill to introduce such a "deal" was reportedly introduced in 2021, but I'm having trouble finding out what happened to it ... squashed by those who can't bear any firm action to be taken perhaps?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jul/06/uk-to-block-visas-from-countries-refusing-to-take-back-undocumented-migrants#:~:text=UK%20to%20block%20visas%20for%20countries%20refusing%20to%20take%20back%20asylum%20seekers,-This%20article%20is&text=The%20UK%20will%20block%20visas,rejected%20asylum%20seekers%20or%20offenders.

Correct. We should not be accepting anyone from countries where their rapists aren't accepted back. It definitely would be a solution.

Rapists, and murderers.

Your solution is just let them carry on raping women. Top work random bloke.

And again, what important work needs doing in this country that we need to accept rapists in to do it???

It's a simple question.

That's not my solution at all. Don't put words into my mouth.

We need immigration so much that threatening to not take immigrants in would just be seen as a bluff. There's no way we could ever do that.

Your solution is unworkable.

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/elon-musk-starmer-grooming-gangs-vqxcrwlcb

Well well well...the head of the sex abuse inquiry, Alexis Jay, has said that Musk's comments have jolted the government into action.

Astonishingly limited PR handling by the UK government, putting aside the rights and wrongs of the substantive issue. Perhaps rather than complain, the UK should manage Musk to achieve their goals.

Previously Twitter have refused to participate in our work. We welcome Mr Musk's increased focus on the issue of child protection and look forward to working with him and X/Twitter on our priority to make Social Media safer for children and to work with the UK criminal justice system to identify and prosecute abusers and criminals...

O rly! 🦉🦉

Who could possibly have known??

Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

Previously Twitter have refused to participate in our work.

I presume they mean Twitter under Jack Dorsey, when being a MAP and expressing your child age range preference was de rigueur.