Absolutely shit scared about the future in the UK?

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Name changed - I’m genuinely terrified by the hate, division and atmosphere here right now, online and spilling over on the ‘the real world’. I’m scared by how quickly things are changing, and just how much influence the US/Elon Musk/Reform+supporters are having. I’m scared of what the actual point of it all is - what’s the endgame? And what’s the solution? Why is no one protesting/rising up from the other way? Do people generally agree with all this?

I’m in no way a minority (white, female, 30s), I’m not super left, I have one little boy and I’m so scared for his future. I don’t want to live somewhere so intolerant with this constant atmosphere of distrust and something getting ready to blow.

What’s the general consensus? Is this what the people of the U.K. want?

"genuinely terrified"?!

Come the fuck on. Things really aren't that bad in everyday life.

I'd genuinely suggest therapy for anyone who's simarly "shit scared".

It's ok, we'll all be advised if we don't like it we can just assisted die.

The future looks bleak, you have to admit.

I worry that our Govt want to criminalise so-called 'Islamophobia' in a country that is supposed to value free speech, as no religion should be free from criticism, especially one that is misogynistic and thinks that 'non-believers' and women are 'less than'...
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I worry about the new antisemitism here and the impact it is having on Jewish people's safety and security here and on the general cohesiveness of our society.

I have no idea how you can demonise Muslims in one breath and lament the increase in antisemitism in another.

Islamophobia and antisemitism are two sides of the same coin. Both have risen in recent times and both involve demonising people because of their religion, othering them and blaming them for the ills of society. And now we are seeing the far right using a faux concern for anti semitism as a cover for their own prejudices. We'll never fight racism with racism.

I suspect Starmer hasn't got a particularly strong opinion one way or the other, but if you think Farage gives one solitary shit about you, or what happens to you, you're sadly mistaken. The man is an absolutely disgusting little cretin who thrives on spreading hatred and division.

Annabella92 · Today 23:39

PrimitivePerson · Today 23:24
Why is that, exactly? Farage wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

And Starmer loathes my very being

Does he know you, then? Why does he loathe you?

Things are going to get worse before they get better.

The Pakistani Muslim grooming gangs are back in the news showing the institutional failings of policing such crimes due to worries about racial hatred and we've got the trial of the man that stabbed those little girls coming up who we now know had a terrorist handbook and in possession of Ricin. The people who rioted last summer are going to feel even more possessed when they find out it wasn't some good little Christian boy as the MSM proclaimed and many of their mates are in prison over it.

That's before you even get started on Trump, Musk and that lot. Plus the rest of the world falling to pieces.

All we can do is try to be sane, rational, good people and focus on the good.

The fear of Labour governments strikes me as utterly ridiculous. My parents were working class Tories, although fat lot of good it did them - they were absolutely shafted by Thatcher, even though they voted for her every time. They lived in genuine fear and dread of Labour governments, and seemed to think the world would literally end if they ever got into power.

Look at what a mess Major ended up in, and what a complete disaster the 2010-2024 Tory government was from start to finish. How on Earth did the Tories get a reputation for competence? They gave us Liz Truss, FFS!!!

People are largely left wing economically, they're just more socially conservative (or indeed moderate) than liberal elites who care more about making sure children are marinaded in gender ideaology at school and manufacturing consent for huge demographic upheaval. The supposed "left" despise the working class.

There is no commonly held idea of "good" anymore. This is the root of the crisis.

I agree. The political system has failed far too many young girls.

Starmer is a wolf in sheep's clothing (albeit increasingly threadbare)

At least with the right wing they're wolves dressed as wolves. You know what you're getting.

Oh, I know what we're getting, alright. That's why I've never voted for a right wing party or candidate in my life, and never will.

I don't really know what your talking about as I've barely read the news recently.

If you're feeling so affected by the news, I'd stop reading it for a while.

There's been bad things all through history, just think of past 25 years even, it's constant.

Best try and go with the flow when you can.

Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

Take a pause on all things online/media for 1 week, focus on yourself and your DC.

You don't have to read the news.

Hopefully you will feel a little better x

Right wing are in power in America and in a-lot of Europe. It will happen here too. It’s lucky you are the right colour op.

They were scumbags and idiots jumping on a bandwagon. The rumour started that it was a terrorist attack by a migrant, that was mostly true. The attacks across the press because the mother of a teen went on a booked holiday was disgusting. It wasn't like her child went and killed children. Meanwhile there is silence about parents being so disconnected from their children, they are being convinced to kill in the name of their prophet. If Catholics were killing in the ways we have had happen, there'd be national strategies and duty on religious organisations to counter act the messages being put out.
I've witnessed news blackouts, the police lying/denying on what really caused one riot/incident and if I hadn't of witnessed it, I wouldn't believe it.

I'm more worried about economics. The fact that there will not be enough workers supporting all the people who need to be supported - growing numbers of elderly people living longer but with more complex care needs, increasing numbers of working age people unable to work due to MH etc, increasing social care needs and paying for the NHS. I am approaching my mid fifties ( after working for 40+ years ) and honestly doubt there will be any money left at this rate to pay for pensions or care when I reach old age ! The way this government throw money around I personally think is shocking.

We are fucked because of the changing demographics

She isn't the right sex and it's debatable on the colour aspect.

Once Trump is in power musk will not be able to try and influence foreign governments or he’ll lose his job with Trump

I think the problem is people don’t understand that the media holds a magnifying glass to certain areas of society and repeats it so it becomes so ingrained that this is the foreigners that have caused all these ills. If it’s a person of Colour committing an offence, their face will be plastered and then same story will be run for days. When it’s a white person- face won’t be shown or it will be off the next day. I challenge anyone to look out for this and you will see it’s true . (Daily mail, birminghammail etc etc. local online )
It’s a tactic hitler used too. “Tell something often enough, it becomes the people’s truth” something along those lines.
blame them. When really we should be taking a look at ourselves and the government for failings. The gov are usually too busy capitalising and screwing as much out of the country as possible , giving each other contracts worth millions - they’ve got to account. For the missing money. I know - let them not rise up and fight us - let the masses fight between themselves. Divide and conquer. Oldest trick in book and it works on the stupid .

people complaining at stsrmer when he’s only be in power for about five seconds . Cos they believe what the media tells them.

Stupid people are dangerous

works on the stupid

I totally agree with you except for this bit. People are not stupid. There is a lot of discontent, a lot of inequality. People feel shafted. And they are manipulated by others to look at immigrants as the cause.

I don't think we should dismiss people as stupid or even racist. If we worked towards a more equal, just society there would be more cohesiveness and less hate.

I honestly think people who weren’t vocalising their concerns previously, because they were conditioned over years to not voicing their worries which way we as a country were going, are now coming forward. People were surprised at the Brexit result,and the increase in support for reform, because the majority have been silent. It’s nothing to fear, unless you buy into the rhetoric that anyone with genuine concerns about the current situation in the UK is guided by the ‘far right’. This is of course not true, but something put about by the far left to scaremonger and create fear amongst the masses. I worry more about Labour and the direction they are taking us. They’re pretty clueless, and I worry about the damage they are capable of doing to our country during the term of their government. But I don’t let it give me sleepless nights.

Hardly two sides of the same coin.

When was the last time you heard of Jewish rape gangs? Or Jews bombing pop concerts? Or driving through predominantly Muslim areas threatening to rape their women?

Or demanding in parliament that no one criticise their religion?

Canada is a vast country. Did you only visit Toronto?

I'm from Vancouver island and have also lived in Vancouver and Toronto.

I personally feel safer in Toronto than London.

For the first time in a long time I’m feeling positive. I’m beyond happy that Trump got back into power in the US. I’m happy with the rise of Reform, who are my new party after many years of voting Conservative. I’m hoping they’ll get into power in Wales, where I’m from, after far too many years of Labour mismanagement. Roll on 2026.
I don’t see the problem with what Elon Musk is saying. I’ll listen to any compelling counter argument if I hear one. But currently the Labour government is doing very poorly, they’ve made some idiotic choices and told some right porkers. Not to mention they’ve been blighted by sleaze and incompetence since they came into power.
I am very much appreciative of how these people are being externally pushed to be accountable.