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AIBU to say get a job or get out?

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GeofferyLLama · 04/01/2025 15:12

10 years ago, a few days before my second daughter was born, I got offered the job of a lifetime. DH and I talked it through and agreed that he’d give up his job (he was pretty unhappy in it anyway) to look after our new daughter full time. However, not long after, DH started working on what appeared to be an exciting project – apparently it could make us millions! My new job paid well, so we organised for a nanny-share whilst he got stuck into his project. That project turned out to be a non-starter – it disappeared into thin air. We kept the nanny and he sort of pottered about for a bit, coming up with new ideas for projects, none of them coming to anything. When my daughter turned one we went out for dinner – the gig of a lifetime was coming to an end. I was pretty confident I could get more work, but didn’t want all the pressure to be on me (considering I was still breastfeeding at that stage) so I told him I needed him to get a job again. He asked for six months to get a project up and running. I reluctantly agreed and carried on working. During the next ten years things basically repeated themselves every six months or so. I’m freelance and there have been some very lean times, but instead of him getting a job he insisted he couldn’t – his projects were at crucial points, instead I had to resort to borrowing money from my parents. During this time he happily spent lots of money on his projects. One project took him away from home for over a month, cost us 60K and lead to our loans being handed over to debt collection agencies, so I now have zero credit rating. During this time, whenever I became angry and told him he needed to get a job, he’d tell me I didn’t support him or his vision, I didn’t have faith in him. He did do an actual job for a year -it didn’t pay massively but it was just wonderful - he was doing something, earning money and when people asked me what my husband did, I could honestly and proudly tell them, but he got fired (not really his fault to be fair.) Things have come to a head again. The gig I’ve been working on for the last year hasn’t paid well and I’m coming to the end of my savings with a big tax bill looming and no new project in sight. I’ve been begging him to get a job again and even found a perfect job on the internet for him – he wouldn’t even look at the advert, said his latest project took up too much of his time. I told him that I could support him so he could do both, but he said it was impossible. This time he’s asked for two more months… He’s not a bad person, he’s a great dad, he’s my best friend, he does more than his fair share of the housework. He accuses me of not being a supportive wife, but after a dozen different projects only costing time and money, how am I supposed to believe that this time will be any different. If it was the other way around I’d go and work in fucking Tesco to bring in some extra cash! I’m getting to the end of the line. What do I do? Tell him to get a job of get out?

OP posts:
Mummyoflittledragon · 04/01/2025 17:19

wizzywig · 04/01/2025 16:15

Op you are his longest successful project

This with bells on it. I also thought this was about a ds in his early / mid 20s.

WildRoseMentor · 04/01/2025 17:21

Op what do you actually want?
This situation has been going on for 10 years. Of course he is going to resent you if you try and change it now, he's gotten away doing exactly what he wants without any family responsibility.

What is your end game? Are you willing to split up over this as it sounds as if you will do anything so long as he doesn't resent you.

I would speak to a solicitor to know exactly what would happen were you to divorce and think very carefully about your next steps.

Personally I would be saying he has to work full time and do at least 50% of household chores and taking care of the kids. Give him a 2 month deadline and call his bluff if he doesn't get a job within that timeframe. You'd be much better off alone than with this parasite on your finances and emotional wellbeing.

DownThePubWithStevieNicks · 04/01/2025 17:22

What on earth are these projects?!

PrawnofthePatriarchy · 04/01/2025 17:23

I fell madly in love with the web in the 90s. I started building websites. I thought I might be able to turn it into a business. I was already making a living as a freelance writer. So I could easily do the copy. I needed to learn design and to code. Which I did.

DH was amazing. So supportive. He told me I was a genius and to go for it. So i did. I worked endless hours and he looked after the house.

Difference between me and your DH, OP, is that after about 18 months I was just about getting by and DH was reassuring me that I'd made the right decision. Things got better. A couple of years later my business was flourishing and DH was in a position to resign his hated, boring job and become a SAHD. He was so thrilled. I was doing something I loved and so was he. He always had an eye for homemaking.

I never took my eye off the ball or ignored my responsibilities to my family. Your DH is taking the piss, OP.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 04/01/2025 17:25

GeofferyLLama · 04/01/2025 16:24

This is basically at the heart of it. I don't want him to resent me for making him do something he doesn't want to do.

What about you resenting him for the financial pressure he's put you under for TEN YEARS???

Italiangreyhound · 04/01/2025 17:25

"Looked at the job ad I sent him, agreed that it was a perfect fit, said he'd get his CV off first thing in the morning."

That is excellent news. First thing tomorrow, I really hope he will do it.

SpringIscomingalso · 04/01/2025 17:27

festivemouse · 04/01/2025 15:17

I mean I'd say he is a bad person - how can he be a great dad, your best friend etc when he's willing to cost you tens of thousands of pounds, put you under such pressure for so many years and potentially put his family to ruin?

Real men don't do that kind of behaviour, nor ever will accept that kind of arrangement

LonginesPrime · 04/01/2025 17:29

Well done, OP - glad he's on board (for now, at least...).

Why don't you have a rule whereby if he needs investment for his projects, it needs to come from the disposable part of his wages after he's paid an agreed share of the household upkeep.

I wouldn't normally suggest splitting family finances like this, but he has massively taken the piss and it sounds like it's up to you to protect your household finances (and future creditworthiness) from his madcap schemes.

BettyBardMacDonald · 04/01/2025 17:29

Whatever happened to men who prided themselves on doing whatever it took to support their family? Every man I'm related to, or been involved with, would work three jobs to bring in their fair share, if that's what it took.

I just can't get my head around all the freeloading cocklodgers we read about now. Who raised these man-children?!

BettyBardMacDonald · 04/01/2025 17:30

LonginesPrime · 04/01/2025 17:29

Well done, OP - glad he's on board (for now, at least...).

Why don't you have a rule whereby if he needs investment for his projects, it needs to come from the disposable part of his wages after he's paid an agreed share of the household upkeep.

I wouldn't normally suggest splitting family finances like this, but he has massively taken the piss and it sounds like it's up to you to protect your household finances (and future creditworthiness) from his madcap schemes.

He doesn't have disposable wages until he reimburses OP for the 60k he frittered away.

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 04/01/2025 17:31

He’s not a good dad is he, because he’s not supporting his family and is putting his child’s mother under horrible financial stress which must be affecting his child’s home life. I agree it is time for an ultimatum.

maddening · 04/01/2025 17:32

Tell him you have done the supporting wife thing for over a decade whilst he has frittered money and put you at financial risk and stress - it is his turn to be a supporting husband and put his ego aside.

maddening · 04/01/2025 17:34

Ah should have rtft! Well done op 👏

dapsnotplimsolls · 04/01/2025 17:35

I'd want proof that he's sent the e-mail tbh.

TomatoSandwiches · 04/01/2025 17:35

This isn't the 17th century, he isn't your apprentice, you are not his sponsor financing his education on the continent he is your husband and the father of your DD who has a financial responsibility for himself AND the family he consented to create.

I see he has agreed to your request but I would have no respect for him, none at all that he felt entitled to waste 60k and cause so much stress, I would never be able to be romantic with him again, what an absolute loser.

WhiteHairedMyrtle · 04/01/2025 17:40

I hope this works out for you but if he doesn't get the job then you need to think seriously about leaving.

JJMama · 04/01/2025 17:43

Pandasnacks · 04/01/2025 15:17

It’s time to leave this looser behind OP. You are his cash cow and he isn’t going to change. 10 years!! Time to make changes.

This! There’s no ultimatum; if he was going to get a job he would have by now!

Ten years?! You’ve been a saint to fund his teenage lifestyle. How can he call himself a man when he’s done nothing to support his family?! What a useless waste of space!

He does things at home - I should bloody hope so! Get rid of this man child and find yourself your equal, or better yet stay single! This is just teaching your children ira okay to sponge off others. I’d be embarrassed to call him a husband - he is no partner at all.

Cosmosforbreakfast · 04/01/2025 17:45

I wouldn't trust that he will do as promised. Go get proper legal advice, get your ducks in a row, protect your own assets etc.

What sort of projects? Is he getting involved with MLMs?

arethereanyleftatall · 04/01/2025 17:47

Well done op. I hope it works out for you and he's not one of those 'tell people what they want to hear' , whilst doing absolutely fuck all about it people.

So, he's said he's getting his CV off first thing in the morning.

So, at noon, if it isn't clear that he's done it, check.

If he says something like 'waffle waffle reason I haven't done it waffle waffle I'll do it tomorrow.'

Say 'no, we don't have time any more, you need to do it right now.'

You see, my ex was like this, everyone (including myself) loved him, because he never ever said no or anything unkind. But actually, he was deeply unkind really, because it was all lies.

Anyway, I hope for your sake, he does it.

cestlavielife · 04/01/2025 17:48

And if he does not get this job?
What is his plan b?
(What is your plan b?)
Applying for one job is a good starting point but he might need to apply for 10 and in meantime take any job he can get
Don't let him off

Hoppinggreen · 04/01/2025 17:48

GeofferyLLama · 04/01/2025 17:10

Thank you lovely people. I took the dog out, rehearsed what I was going to say, came back, told him very frankly that he couldn't have two months. I said I would do everything to support him so he could keep working on his latest project in his free time but that he absolutely had to get a job because money is about to run out. End of.

AND HE SAID YES!

I don't know if he realised I was finally not going to take no for an answer or what, but he just agreed. Looked at the job ad I sent him, agreed that it was a perfect fit, said he'd get his CV off first thing in the morning.

I of course burst into tears and was a snotty mess for the next 10 mins. DD came through to ask what was wrong. I told her everything was right.

And I know some of you will think that he's probably all mouth and no trousers and that I should believe it when I see it, but this actually feels like a huge step forward.

And this wouldn't have happened without the wake up call from you guys.

I genuinely hope he does BUT firstly there are many many people with recent skills and great CV's who are struggling to get jobs right now so even if he wants a job he will probably struggle to get one
Secondly, I imagine he is just shutting you up and there will be reason after reason why he hasn't even applied for anything.
Sorry OP but after all this time he won't find a job easily even if (and its a big IF) he tries

PeppyGreenFinch · 04/01/2025 17:49

I hope he does a 180 and changes for you but I have doubts.

Please post here again if you sense there will be no job.

noctilucentcloud · 04/01/2025 17:50

Massive well done OP. I really hope everything works out with this job. Only thing is he might need some help re his CV etc - he needs to word the last 10 years in the right way, and also things'll have changed in the last decade and he may need to tweak how he does his CV. I'd also say, and I'm really hoping this doesn't happen, but don't let it slide back into how things are now if this application doesn't work. Encourage him to search and apply for more than one position, it's you need him to get a job, not that it's this job or back to the projects. Wishing you all the best.

RockOrAHardplace · 04/01/2025 17:51

Tell him he can continue his projects if he is self funding, not increasing your debt and pays his share of the bills inc the nanny.

He needs to get a job before you have a heart attack.

5128gap · 04/01/2025 17:52

I think you need to have a think about why his approval of you as a 'supportive wife' matters so much that you've allowed him to exploit you and future fake for a decade. A decade in which you've been under unnecessary pressure, worked hard for far less reward than you'd have otherwise recieved, had to deal with debt, and involve your parents and their money to bail you out. That is a LOT to have put up with, and a lot to have sacrificed. You lost confidence in him and his projects years ago, and rightly so, yet you've hidden that for fear of being in the wrong in his eyes. I genuinely hope his agreement to work represents a turning point, but either way, I do think you need to examine your dynamic, because you are setting way too much store on his judgement of you, when in the circumstances he has no right to have any.

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