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Elderly dad and wife expect me to care for her

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Adrienne23 · 04/01/2025 00:10

My dad left home for his now wife of 50 years when I was 8 years old and they by and large lived their own very comfortable lives together, seeing me around 4 times a year until my teens, then we saw very little of one and other aside from speak on the phone twice a month or so. My mother raised me in relative poverty with not much financial support from my dad at the time he used to claim he didn’t have the means and we only discovered in recent years that he and his wife were far better off than they said they were. My mother passed away nearly 10 years ago from a long illness and I was her main support, although she tried very hard to maintain her independence and not lean on me unless absolutely necessary mainly in order to protect my emotional and physical well being.
I started to see more of my dad since my mothers death and increased communication considerably during lockdown. In the past few months his wife has been diagnosed with cancer and they now both absolutely expect me to provide all sorts of support and care for them both as my dad’s health is also poor. I am starting to feeling incredibly resentful. I worked hard on myself following my mother’s death, getting a new job, social life, etc, but I am still deeply affected by the loss. The level of support my dad and his wife expect from me far exceeds the support my mum expected (or received) from me, I get calls and messages about the health condition of both, several times a day irrespective of what I am doing, demands to drive to and from appointments, visit the house, messages that seem urgent and can’t wait only to just want to chat about themselves, and so on. How can I draw boundaries now before I am completely consumed by them and their needs to the detriment of my own?

OP posts:
RunningJo · 04/01/2025 07:39

You do whatever you feel comfortable doing.
I wouldn’t be answering all of the calls, I’d text back and say sorry, can’t talk now, catch up later.
If they ask for specific help then reply to say, sorry I can’t do that,
you don’t need to explain why, but if they try to guilt you then offer helpful advice as to who could help them. There is plenty of help out there for them. You don’t need to be their first port of call. Do whatever you want to do, and nothing more.

Don’t be guilted into becoming the carer for people who have had limited contact with you for many years.

DungareesAndTrombones · 04/01/2025 07:40

OP I feel fuming for you and to use a MN phrase I would tell them both to fuck off to the far side of fuck and then fuck off some more.

Take care of yourself even if that means blocking the pair of them. They've behaved despicably towards you and don't deserve a second of your time.

ErniesGhostlyGoldTops · 04/01/2025 07:40

LadyGaGasPokerFace · 04/01/2025 00:26

Tell them to swivel.

😆I love this term and use it far more than I should.

Totaleclipseofthemind · 04/01/2025 07:45

Only reply to messages when you want to.

Tell them you have hurt your foot and cannot drive.

Be as deceitful to them as they were with you over their finances and lack of support growing up.

Bagwyllydiart · 04/01/2025 07:51

Just say you are happy to help, every February 29th.

CowTown · 04/01/2025 07:52

My mum recently tried this with my sister, who lives locally (I live on the other side of the country). Backstory: DM had an affair with DSD, which is what broke two families apart. When asked, my sis told DM that she made her decision when she left the family, she has her new family now, and one of her new DCs can do her caring duties.

MyDeftDuck · 04/01/2025 07:59

Volumedelachanel · 04/01/2025 00:42

Agree with sending this message. please do not be guilted into looking after these selfish people. They are treating you like their own personal lackey and it will only get worse. You've been caring for your mum, and now it's YOUR time. I would keep saying, 'sorry I'm not available to do xyz' to every request and pull back completely. They've probably got enough to pay for care, and even if they don't, it's not your problem.

This.

isthesolution · 04/01/2025 08:01

I'd visit once a week for a set time (maybe an hour) and probably phone/answer the phone once a week too. I'd have something organised afterwards.

I'd stick to - I'll be over on (usual day) and can try to help with that then if you want.

If you are guilted I'd just say that your life is very busy and you are currently in a position to do any more than you are doing.

My own father v much abandoned my family for a new one. He's now mid 70s and I'm preparing myself for him suddenly wanting/needing regular contact/help. He wasn't ever there for me from being 8; he'd take me out once a week if it fit in with his plans and I'm therefore willing to do the same in return.

Flatandhappy · 04/01/2025 08:01

You need to learn how to say no and stick to it. Work out what, if anything you are willing to do (although tbh it’s probably easier to just do a hard no as it is more difficult to maintain boundaries if you are willing to do some things) and communicate this to your father. You are being used, you have done what you needed/wanted to for the parent who cared for you, you have no obligation here.

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 04/01/2025 08:02

They can expect all they like. You can say no.

rookiemere · 04/01/2025 08:04

MonopolyQueen · 04/01/2025 05:37

“Dad I can’t keep up with all these calls and messages, life is very busy! Let’s agree to have a weekly chat on a Sunday afternoon and I can catch up on all your news then. If you are really struggling getting to appointments, taxis will work best or there’s bound to be a hospital transport service if you ask the GP. It was a huge strain looking after mum but I was so happy to do it, after she looked after me basically single handed for most of my young life. I do want to stay close to you but I can’t offer the same level of support to you that I did to mum, it is too exhausting at this time in my life.”

I like the idea of a message like this.
It shouldn't need absolutely spelled out to him why you gave that level of care to your DM but will not for him and his DW.
If he still doesn't get it after a message like that then just tell him the truth in plainer words.

Horserider5678 · 04/01/2025 08:08

Randomontheinternet25 · 04/01/2025 00:27

Id tell them to look into adult social care, if they can no longer look after themselves.

Adult social care is a minefield. Perhaps the way forward is for OP to support them through this and help them to set up a care package!

Tubetrain · 04/01/2025 08:08

isthesolution · 04/01/2025 08:01

I'd visit once a week for a set time (maybe an hour) and probably phone/answer the phone once a week too. I'd have something organised afterwards.

I'd stick to - I'll be over on (usual day) and can try to help with that then if you want.

If you are guilted I'd just say that your life is very busy and you are currently in a position to do any more than you are doing.

My own father v much abandoned my family for a new one. He's now mid 70s and I'm preparing myself for him suddenly wanting/needing regular contact/help. He wasn't ever there for me from being 8; he'd take me out once a week if it fit in with his plans and I'm therefore willing to do the same in return.

Why should she visit weekly for someone who never cared about her?

Daleksatemyshed · 04/01/2025 08:10

He's got some front Op, he wasn't bothered when you were a child. He wasn't your father then, you don't have to be his carer now. Tell him you reap what you sow

Flossflower · 04/01/2025 08:11

OP, I am sorry about your mother. Your father cannot expect you to help him and his wife after he hardly kept in touch with you until he needed someone. I really think you need to tell him this. It can be very liberating to call people out.

CowTown · 04/01/2025 08:13

Daleksatemyshed · 04/01/2025 08:10

He's got some front Op, he wasn't bothered when you were a child. He wasn't your father then, you don't have to be his carer now. Tell him you reap what you sow

This. He dropped you like a hot potato, and only wants contact for your services. Don’t even give him a “weekly slot”—he didn’t give you one when you were a child. He sees you as Free Adult Social Care at His Beck and Call. No.

Custardslices · 04/01/2025 08:14

If the will was healthy for myself to benefit from, getting back what's mine per say.......yeah I'd do a few things to help them

Otherwise cut contact

Begethwin · 04/01/2025 08:15

username299 · 04/01/2025 00:27

I would organise a needs assessment with social services.
Teach them how to use Uber
Give them the number for Age UK
Give them the number of carers and food delivery should they need them

Direct all calls to voicemail and not respond to texts.

Exactly this.

Text it to them breezily ie "So dad I've been able to source all this help for you". Absolutely don't answer the phone.

My own lovely mum passed 14 months ago, just 14 months after my lovely dad passed. She too tried to shield my sister and me. I'm sorry for the loss of your mum.

ClairInTheCommunity · 04/01/2025 08:15

Firstly, your mum must have been an amazing woman: you are a testimony to her. Your father left her to raise you alone in relative poverty while he lived it up with the ow.

At the risk of sounding mean I will speak for myself. I was in a similar situation and would have considered it a disrespect to my mother's memory to give my estranged father the same kind of care and love that I gave to my mother in her final years. Not to mention the ow...are you kidding? Like you, I am - believe it or not - a caring soul, and was lucky that he had other children (hers) to care for him in his old age.

As a sensitive and caring person you are going to have to harden your heart and erect a solid boundary. He does not deserve your help. And she certainly doesn't.

HerkyBaby · 04/01/2025 08:17

if I were you I’d go and see them and tell them that you will help them to access support services so that they can continue to live independently. Give very clear parameters of what you are able to do ie visit once a fortnight, organise a weekly food delivery. Suggest that they keep a diary of how their ailments are affecting them on a daily basis rather than texting you about them as that will be useful for medical practitioners to see.
Your mum worked very hard to ensure that you had an independent life away from this man. You absolutely can maintain that life.Also consider joining the Cockroach Cafe chat on Mumsnet. It’s very empowering for those with elderly parents.

Christmassoxs · 04/01/2025 08:19

After how you and your mum were treated? The cfers they can piss right off. I couldn't be bothered with this. Not my problem. Block calls, ignore messages, dead to me.

thepariscrimefiles · 04/01/2025 08:22

username299 · 04/01/2025 00:41

Who knows what he's capable of? My dad can't text and my mum wouldn't know how to order something from the internet. I meant meal delivery, not supermarket.

My point was to make sure she's got everything covered before leaving them to it. They have everything at their fingertips and there's no reason for the OP to worry.

There is no need for OP to worry whether or not they have everything at their fingertips or not. She has no responsibility for them at all. They treated OP and her mum utterly despicably and most people would just tell them to fuck off.

Poodleville · 04/01/2025 08:26

I feel for you, you are dealing with completely self absorbed parent - before this manifested in no interest in you, and now it's manifesting as... no interest in you. They are not interested in you or your wellbeing, just you as someone who can look after them now they need it.

Resentment is creeping in, what is the emotion you anticipate if you draw up boundaries?

I feel it's the fear of that emotion that is being exploited here.

You deserve so much more.

username299 · 04/01/2025 08:26

thepariscrimefiles · 04/01/2025 08:22

There is no need for OP to worry whether or not they have everything at their fingertips or not. She has no responsibility for them at all. They treated OP and her mum utterly despicably and most people would just tell them to fuck off.

The OP asked:

How can I draw boundaries now before I am completely consumed by them and their needs to the detriment of my own?

So I gave advice on how she could do that. Your advice is for her to tell them to fuck off. She's unlikely to tell them to fuck off or she would have done that already. I don't think your advice is particularly helpful to the OP.

Whyherewego · 04/01/2025 08:33

Im assuming you want to renain in contact but just less demands? So ... Draw practical boundaries at first.

  1. Divert their calls to voicemail
  2. Don't read their messages or send a standard message back "sorry busy right now will text later"
  3. If you are asked for appointment driving, "sorry I'm busy then, have you got a cab number?"

You have to just keep doing this. Every time. Make sure that contact is initiated by you at a regular time ie you call them at weekends or something.
Then if they eventually ask why you can't provide more support then you can have a proper conversation which emphasises that you haven't got the time or emotional energy to support another parent through this journey. That you wish them well for their recovery but they will need to lean on others for the bulk of their support.