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Elderly dad and wife expect me to care for her

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Adrienne23 · 04/01/2025 00:10

My dad left home for his now wife of 50 years when I was 8 years old and they by and large lived their own very comfortable lives together, seeing me around 4 times a year until my teens, then we saw very little of one and other aside from speak on the phone twice a month or so. My mother raised me in relative poverty with not much financial support from my dad at the time he used to claim he didn’t have the means and we only discovered in recent years that he and his wife were far better off than they said they were. My mother passed away nearly 10 years ago from a long illness and I was her main support, although she tried very hard to maintain her independence and not lean on me unless absolutely necessary mainly in order to protect my emotional and physical well being.
I started to see more of my dad since my mothers death and increased communication considerably during lockdown. In the past few months his wife has been diagnosed with cancer and they now both absolutely expect me to provide all sorts of support and care for them both as my dad’s health is also poor. I am starting to feeling incredibly resentful. I worked hard on myself following my mother’s death, getting a new job, social life, etc, but I am still deeply affected by the loss. The level of support my dad and his wife expect from me far exceeds the support my mum expected (or received) from me, I get calls and messages about the health condition of both, several times a day irrespective of what I am doing, demands to drive to and from appointments, visit the house, messages that seem urgent and can’t wait only to just want to chat about themselves, and so on. How can I draw boundaries now before I am completely consumed by them and their needs to the detriment of my own?

OP posts:
Volumedelachanel · 04/01/2025 01:18

What a disgusting selfish man. How can anyone abandon their 8 year old child? 😔

This is something I will never ever ever understand, how anyone can abandon their child.

Fraaances · 04/01/2025 01:19

They can get nurses in. Explain to your Dad that he didn’t look after you at all. You can’t and won’t.

Applepoop · 04/01/2025 01:20

Turophilic · 04/01/2025 00:34

Only speak to them when it’s convenient to you - there’s absolutely no reason for you to jump to attention because they want you to.

Leave their messages unread and don’t pick up their calls until you are ready to respond. They will stop messaging several times a day if it doesn’t give them the response they want.

You aren’t their lackey nor their support human. You can be as involved or uninvolved as feels best to you. Give lifts if that works for you but not if it doesn’t. Protect your own wellbeing first.

They weren’t there for you and shirked what little responsibility they had. They don’t get to expect you to play the dutiful daughter now they want something from you.

This.

Their entitlement is outrageous, given that your father didn't bother bringing you up emotionally and additionally sat by whilst your mum did it in poverty. And his wife happily shacked up with someone he knew had an 8yo and then sat by whilst he hardly saw that 8yo.

PeppyGreenFinch · 04/01/2025 01:20

I was gutted to hear you’ve been helping.

Give them a number for a care agency and tell them you are very busy.

Unless he’s rich and has no other descendants?

Applepoop · 04/01/2025 01:21

I agree that if they need help, they need to employ a carer/cleaner/use taxis or whatever.

WhereYouLeftIt · 04/01/2025 01:26

"How can I draw boundaries now before I am completely consumed by them and their needs to the detriment of my own?"
You draw them very bluntly and very decisively and you take no prisoners.

Consider texting along these lines:
'Dad, your behaviour of late suggests you think I should be running around after you and your wife. Let us both be clear on this - I will provide exactly the level of support that I experienced from you from the age of 8 onwards. You reap what you sow, and you sowed very, very little.'

Yes, it's brutal. But I think you need to be with these people. They fucked you over in your childhood, teens, adulthood, and they will do it all over again if you don't stop them.

"I am starting to feeling incredibly resentful."
And you are right to feel this way. Do not suppress these feelings, they are your protection from being exploited by a very selfish man and his wife.

Randomontheinternet25 · 04/01/2025 01:30

Well I clearly need to put my glasses on before replying. I'm sure ppl know what I meant

saltandvinegarchipsticks · 04/01/2025 01:35

Turophilic · 04/01/2025 00:37

Presumably that he can use Uber, look up Age U.K. and order a Tesco delivery just fine on his own. The OP doesn’t need to do any of that for him!

Neither of my parents would be able to do these things.

Kitkatcatflap · 04/01/2025 01:37

If you keep making excuses not answer the phone or come around - they will continue to up the pressure. They need to know your true feelings because right now they have been able to paper over/re-write the past and (quite rightly) it doesn't sit right with you.

How about something like. Despite connecting more since I lost mum, I feel I am unable to supply the level or care and assistance you both need at this point in your lives. Your absence as I was growing up and as I became young adult affected me deeply but I had mum. She put on a brave face despite struggling financially and I knew she would never abandon me and would always be there for me.

I nursed my one true parent in her final days and I am glad I was able to be there for her. Life is about choices and being true to yourself. As you made your choices all those years ago and I am making my choices now.

Good luck OP

ThisIsSockward · 04/01/2025 01:38

I'm a big believer in 'you reap what you sow'. I'd be less available, ignore non-emergency messages, take longer to reply in order to preserve my own mental health, and hope they figure it out for themselves, but if they don't, I'd tell them the truth, that you have your own life to live and aren't able to care for them.

Needanewname42 · 04/01/2025 01:40

This might be a bit cold and grim but what's in it for you?

Do you think they have much in the way of assets? Are they going to leave said assets to you?

If she goes first you'll have a decent claim on his estate, but not the other way round.

Sooverwork · 04/01/2025 01:41

Turophilic · 04/01/2025 00:37

Presumably that he can use Uber, look up Age U.K. and order a Tesco delivery just fine on his own. The OP doesn’t need to do any of that for him!

How are you do sure he is capable of doing that all if he’s relying on OP ? Guessing he is possibly in his 80s so maybe he’s not okay with technology and yes that includes Tesco delivery .

WickedWitchOfTheEast87 · 04/01/2025 01:48

@Adrienne23 your dad and his wife are cheeky fuckers! Your dad didn't bother for years and left you in poverty whilst he and the woman he left you and your mum for lived a life of riley compared to yours and now he has the fucking audacity to expect and demand you care for them both now they need it! They are shamless and selfish cheeky fuckers.

Op you are well within your rights to tell them both to sort their care needs out themselves and when they complain simply reply "you showed no care or responsibility for me so you are not entitled to expect the same from me". Your dad leaving you in poverty has freed you of any obligation and respobsibilty towards him and his wife. As the saying goes 'you reap what you sow'

Vaxtable · 04/01/2025 02:03

You send them a text stating that whilst you are his child they made it very clear where his priorities lay when you were growing up and throughout your adult life. You are happy to maintain contact a couple of times a month by text but cannot provide any other support. If they need taking to appointments they use taxis or does the hospital offer patient transport. If they require care they pay for carers

Russiandollsaresofullofthemselves · 04/01/2025 02:10

remember “no” is a complete sentence

Lucytheloose · 04/01/2025 02:25

Randomontheinternet25 · 04/01/2025 00:42

I know lots of ppl in their 70s would could not do any of that .

But unless they have advanced dementia, they would learn to do these things if they had no alternative.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/01/2025 02:25

I would deal with it head on.

"Dad, I'm starting to become concerned about the amount of help you and Stepmum seem to expect from me due to your health problems. I am unable to provide the level of support that you seem to want, and I think it's important to be clear about that now before you become too reliant on me. If the two of you now need all this extra help, I think it's time to discuss getting a daily carer in who can help you with these sorts of tasks. I've tried to be helpful over the last few months but it's not a long term solution. I spent a long time caring for Mum, I know what it involves, and I don't have it in me to do it a second time."

Then if he grumbles about you not being there for him, you say, "Really, Dad? Were you there for me when I was a child and I needed you? When I saw you about four times a year? I know we've become closer since Mum died, and I don't want to go on about you abandoning me as a child or what have you, but accusing me of abandoning you is really below the belt in the circumstances and I don't want to hear you say that ever again."

Funnywonder · 04/01/2025 02:26

Even without his terrible behaviour towards you over the years, it would be unwise for you to become a carer to your dad and his wife. I don’t mean this in a selfish, uncaring way, but am speaking as someone who cared for my mum for several years. I loved her and she was a good mum to me, but caring for her nearly caused me to have a nervous breakdown. As someone’s illness progresses, the strain on your physical and mental health becomes more and more severe. Your dad’s wife needs to be assessed for care and you need to be unavailable.

VirginiaCreepers · 04/01/2025 02:31

Agree with all points above. You need to just refuse point blank to do anything that is too much (and no need to debate the finer points or give a reason). "I can only do xx", or "I can't do that, it is too much to ask of me".

There is passage in a book by Dr Gabor Maté ('When the Body Says No: The Cost of Hidden Stress') that I find quite helpful: “A therapist once said to me, “If you face the choice between feeling guilt and resentment, choose the guilt every time.” It is wisdom I have passed on to many others since. If a refusal saddles you with guilt, while consent leaves resentment in its wake, opt for the guilt. Resentment is soul suicide."

WearyAuldWumman · 04/01/2025 02:32

I was my late husband's second wife. His first wife had acquired a younger boyfriend who became her long-term partner. There was an even larger age gap between my husband and me, and the ex pushed the narrative that she'd been left for a younger woman.

Nope. What actually happened was that my husband left her and bought his own place. After they'd been separated long enough for a no fault divorce (as the law then stood) she announced that he could "come home". 6 years after that, we got married.

The boyfriend died suddenly. Her next partner died of a serious illness. By then, we were all getting on a bit better so - since there was no sign of her kids stepping up, when she needed a lift to and from hospital for a procedure, I volunteered. (My husband couldn't take her - he'd had a stroke.)

Unbeknownst to all of us, she was in the process of acquiring yet another partner.

One of the kids wanted her to move into a sheltered flat close to them. She declined. She told mutual friends that she'd rather stay where she was since there was always the chance that the kid would move and she'd be stuck in an unknown place: besides, she knew that if she stayed where she was, she'd always have DH and Weary there.

I informed my husband in no uncertain terms that there was zero chance of my becoming his ex's carer. (No, he didn't expect it - but I think that she and the kids did.) I'd already cared for both my parents and cared for my husband until he died.

YANBU OP. You have your own life to lead and owe them nothing.

WearyAuldWumman · 04/01/2025 02:38

Funnywonder · 04/01/2025 02:26

Even without his terrible behaviour towards you over the years, it would be unwise for you to become a carer to your dad and his wife. I don’t mean this in a selfish, uncaring way, but am speaking as someone who cared for my mum for several years. I loved her and she was a good mum to me, but caring for her nearly caused me to have a nervous breakdown. As someone’s illness progresses, the strain on your physical and mental health becomes more and more severe. Your dad’s wife needs to be assessed for care and you need to be unavailable.

Agreed. My life stopped being my own when I was about 36. I'm now a 64 yr old widow with a very limited social circle and health problems related to my caring duties.

DreamTheMoors · 04/01/2025 03:05

What happened to honesty?

Just tell him the truth.
”I’m just not able to give you that level of care. I really think you need to hire someone in if you need that much help. Or call Social Services.”
The minute you offer to find help for them you’re trapped. Make it clear that while you care, you’re not going to be their nursemaid or secretary.
Don’t apologise, don’t feel bad, just state things as they are.
It isn’t mean or cruel - it’s just life and how things are. You have no reason to feel guilty and your dad has no right or reason to try and make you feel guilty.
Then let it go. Give yourself permission to let it go.
You can still call and visit but any obligation ends there.
If there’s one thing I’ve learned about growing older, it’s that shit happens and you deal with it. You don’t go crying to somebody else and ask them to deal with it.

You can do this, @Adrienne23— I know you can. ❤️

WishinAndHopin · 04/01/2025 03:29

Going to get flamed but what’s the chances of you being left in their will? After half a century of abandonment you do deserve it.
You might want to consider this when choosing how to go forward - you probably need to keep them sweet.

MincePiesAndStilton · 04/01/2025 03:30

Take the same approach your dad took when you were 8. Two phone calls a month and a few visits a year. Don’t answer in between.

Remaker · 04/01/2025 03:48

Do they have any other children? Some people feel they can use a future inheritance as bargaining chips to get support. One of my friends has nothing good to say about her mother but won’t cut her out of her life as she’s an only child and wants to inherit the house.

You need to be honest with him. Decide what you are willing/able to do, communicate that and stick to it.