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Elderly dad and wife expect me to care for her

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Adrienne23 · 04/01/2025 00:10

My dad left home for his now wife of 50 years when I was 8 years old and they by and large lived their own very comfortable lives together, seeing me around 4 times a year until my teens, then we saw very little of one and other aside from speak on the phone twice a month or so. My mother raised me in relative poverty with not much financial support from my dad at the time he used to claim he didn’t have the means and we only discovered in recent years that he and his wife were far better off than they said they were. My mother passed away nearly 10 years ago from a long illness and I was her main support, although she tried very hard to maintain her independence and not lean on me unless absolutely necessary mainly in order to protect my emotional and physical well being.
I started to see more of my dad since my mothers death and increased communication considerably during lockdown. In the past few months his wife has been diagnosed with cancer and they now both absolutely expect me to provide all sorts of support and care for them both as my dad’s health is also poor. I am starting to feeling incredibly resentful. I worked hard on myself following my mother’s death, getting a new job, social life, etc, but I am still deeply affected by the loss. The level of support my dad and his wife expect from me far exceeds the support my mum expected (or received) from me, I get calls and messages about the health condition of both, several times a day irrespective of what I am doing, demands to drive to and from appointments, visit the house, messages that seem urgent and can’t wait only to just want to chat about themselves, and so on. How can I draw boundaries now before I am completely consumed by them and their needs to the detriment of my own?

OP posts:
Jaapssthia · 04/01/2025 03:59

I have experienced this. You have to put your big girl pants on and say no. I actually ended up blocking the person on my phone. Their demands were so extreme and they had history of being deeply unpleasant. In the end, she went into a home because none of the family could cope. It was a good outcome for everyone involved.

LBFseBrom · 04/01/2025 04:28

They are expecting too much of you, op.

In your place, I would help to organise help for them and keep an eye on it all but you have your own life to lead, your job, and cannot be expected to do everything. It sounds as though they can afford help and, anyway, there are some benefits that can be claimed which go a long way towards the cost. If you oversee it, that should be sufficient.

Be upfront about this, you are not unreasonable nor are you abandoning them.

I wish you good luck and hope you have a long, happy and healthy life. You deserve it.

ueberlin2030 · 04/01/2025 04:37

'Sorry to hear of your problems. I can't really help in practical ways, unfortunately, due to having my own commitments and priorities. There is help and support out there though - perhaps start with your GP or MacMillan nurse.'

Rainbowqueeen · 04/01/2025 05:05

I like @MissScarletInTheBallroom suggestion of what to say.

You also need to put in place some practical things. Don't answer the phone to them. have a mantra that you repeat each time they ring - I am protecting my peace and ensuring I am healthy - or something like that.

mathanxiety · 04/01/2025 05:30

"Sorry to hear you're not doing too well, Dad and Missus, and that you need support/ lifts/ house cleaned/ meals cooked. I'm sure you'll figure something out. Byeeee".

"Sorry to hear you're not doing too well, Dad and Missus. That must suck."

"Sorry to hear you're not doing too well, Dad and Missus. I wish I had it in me to be the bigger person."

MonopolyQueen · 04/01/2025 05:37

“Dad I can’t keep up with all these calls and messages, life is very busy! Let’s agree to have a weekly chat on a Sunday afternoon and I can catch up on all your news then. If you are really struggling getting to appointments, taxis will work best or there’s bound to be a hospital transport service if you ask the GP. It was a huge strain looking after mum but I was so happy to do it, after she looked after me basically single handed for most of my young life. I do want to stay close to you but I can’t offer the same level of support to you that I did to mum, it is too exhausting at this time in my life.”

MeTooOverHere · 04/01/2025 05:39

GreetingCeridwen · 04/01/2025 00:29

This, I'm afraid, is what it boils down to. Obviously you have to handle this in the way that causes you the least distress, but be careful you don't conflate that with the path of least resistance.

True. least distress =/= least resistance

HomeTheatreSystem · 04/01/2025 05:46

You tell him that you do not have the capacity to meet either of their now considerable care needs, that he needs to sell his house/liquidate assets to release capital, move into rented accommodation and fund the cost of outside help/carers/nursing from those funds. If they are elderly and in poor health the money should hopefully just about last their lifetime.

MeTooOverHere · 04/01/2025 05:47

outerspacepotato · 04/01/2025 00:58

I had a dad, same story and he got in contact after decades. He had cancer.

An asshole with cancer is still an asshole.

I just said I was unable to help with his home care and maybe he and his wife should call some home health agencies.

With the multiple phone calls per day, I'd be tempted to tell him to stop calling so much because you are busy. If he keeps it up, block.

An asshole with cancer is still an asshole.😍

Oodlesandoodlesofnoodles · 04/01/2025 05:55

I almost voted YABU in the sense that it is unreasonable of you to meet their needs like this.

There’s an 8 year old child inside you trying to win their Dad’s love and he and his wife are taking advantage of that. I think I would ask your Dad why on earth he thinks you should help her.

JustMyView13 · 04/01/2025 05:55

I would explain to him that you are not able to provide him any support beyond what he provided to you as a child growing up. You understand he had his reasons at the time, albeit never shared. And likewise you have your reasons now. You appreciate the bond you’ve formed with him in recent times, but he wasn’t a father to you when you needed one, and you don't intend on upending the life you’ve built to provide an unequal level of support now he’s reached old age. What you are prepared to do is contact social services and make sure he’s got access to the right support from LA, or access to paid (by him) service providers to help him maintain his independence which he clearly values greatly.

NC10125 · 04/01/2025 05:57

If you want to stay in touch with them I like pp idea of a regular phone call which everyone knows when its happening so that you can then ignore other messages. And I like the idea of making sure they know how to access other help - perhaps a list of useful phone numbers for things like doctors, social services, cleaners, taxis etc stuck on their fridge.

I suspect that he has just assumed that you will care for them because you did so for your mum, he wouldn't probably know enough about her care to compare his requests with hers.

If you value the relationship then I think that you need to bring it up as a conversation with them rather than a text/message. I'd ask questions about what they've planned for their care, whether they've been offered support, what they've put in place. I'd also say something like "I don't want to upset you by always saying "no" so I feel like I need to be clear that I'm not able to help here. I really value our relationship but the reason I took care of mum as she aged was because she had taken care of me as a child. Its a huge huge amount of work and whilst I love and care for you we don't have that sort of relationship."

MeTooOverHere · 04/01/2025 05:58

WhereYouLeftIt · 04/01/2025 01:26

"How can I draw boundaries now before I am completely consumed by them and their needs to the detriment of my own?"
You draw them very bluntly and very decisively and you take no prisoners.

Consider texting along these lines:
'Dad, your behaviour of late suggests you think I should be running around after you and your wife. Let us both be clear on this - I will provide exactly the level of support that I experienced from you from the age of 8 onwards. You reap what you sow, and you sowed very, very little.'

Yes, it's brutal. But I think you need to be with these people. They fucked you over in your childhood, teens, adulthood, and they will do it all over again if you don't stop them.

"I am starting to feeling incredibly resentful."
And you are right to feel this way. Do not suppress these feelings, they are your protection from being exploited by a very selfish man and his wife.

THIS ^

commonsense61 · 04/01/2025 06:16

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RedHelenB · 04/01/2025 06:25

BMW6 · 04/01/2025 00:22

Tell them exactly what you've said here - he abandoned you and your Mum, he made his choice so of course you won't be playing the part of a dutiful and caring daughter!

Go NC if needs be. He's a selfish git still.

This.live your own life, he's lived his without any care for you.

Berga · 04/01/2025 06:35

Ok I'll be angry for you OP.

How fucking dare this man get a whiff of his own and his cheeky fucker wife's mortality during lockdown and suddenly decide it's time to build a relationship with the daughter he abandoned and failed to protect and provide for when she was a small child, because fuck, he'll need someone to run around after them now they are old. He knows he is playing on that child part of you that just wanted a Dad who was around and loved her. They can both fuck off and be left to the fate that they chose as grown adults. Absolutely conniving wankers.

As for those posters saying do it for the money, they didn't want to give OP money when she was 8. A child. She could do all this, under duress, and find they left it to the local cats home. They can use their money to buy their care, seeing as money is so important to them.

And for those arguing about whether OP's Dad can order an Uber or a fucking Tesco shop, who cares if he can or not? It's not the OP's problem, he is reaping what he has sown, so he will have to work it out.

As a wonderful wise PP said, an asshole with cancer is still an asshole. No one should be under the illusion that everyone turns into a nice old person like it's some kind of elderly magic wand.

Lostinmusic22 · 04/01/2025 06:51

Give them both the number for a local care agency and tell them you will not be taking on any kind of caring role. Suggest they move to assisted living or residential care if they need more support.

Put your phone on silent and don’t answer. Reply to texts every 2/4 days. Stop giving them access. Unplug your home phone - you don’t need it. You don’t need to be available all of the time to anyone op, especially not someone that abandoned you..

Pat888 · 04/01/2025 07:03

Do you have a job? Obviously you can't take calls while at work, you often work late into the evening and have this and this on at the weekend so they'll have to find some other support.
If you don't work tell him he gave you no support growing up so can't expect you to provide it now.
Be firm don't say things like 'i'll pop round when I can' either say once a week or whatever (or not at all) - don't leave it vague.

ruffler45 · 04/01/2025 07:09

And I bet you are not mention in any wills either..not that should influence your decisison to keep a huge distance from them...

endsnewyearsday · 04/01/2025 07:11

5foot5 · 04/01/2025 00:37

"Sorry to hear about your current health problems. I will, of course, stay in touch and come to visit when I can.

"However, I think you should make other day-to-day care arrangements. You were both happy to leave Mum and I to manage with minimal financial or practical help from you when I was a child, so you and your wife cannot reasonably expect a great deal of support and care from me now."

Nailed it.

Wtafdidido · 04/01/2025 07:12

Request a social worker for them via their go and ask for a care needs assessment and care will be provided or ask for Direct Payment and employ carers for them. You do not have to care for them. You owe them nothing and there are other sources of care. Set the boundaries now

ruffler45 · 04/01/2025 07:13

Fraaances · 04/01/2025 01:19

They can get nurses in. Explain to your Dad that he didn’t look after you at all. You can’t and won’t.

This .....and then block

hattie43 · 04/01/2025 07:26

My neglectful mother is trying this too OP but she has no concept that I have no intention of being her carer . She was never around for me as a child having buggered off with a series of different men and so now I'm going to return the favour . Set boundaries for the sake of your wellbeing . Mine will get a weekly trip to the shops so I know she doesn't starve and that's it .

Winterskyfall · 04/01/2025 07:33

He largely abandoned you when you were 8. I would pull back significantly now because this is only going to get worse. He wasn't there for you, you don't need to be there for them. Just let him know that. He is a selfish user who will keep taking until you have nothing left to give.

Tubetrain · 04/01/2025 07:34

Just say no. End of.

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