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Elderly dad and wife expect me to care for her

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Adrienne23 · 04/01/2025 00:10

My dad left home for his now wife of 50 years when I was 8 years old and they by and large lived their own very comfortable lives together, seeing me around 4 times a year until my teens, then we saw very little of one and other aside from speak on the phone twice a month or so. My mother raised me in relative poverty with not much financial support from my dad at the time he used to claim he didn’t have the means and we only discovered in recent years that he and his wife were far better off than they said they were. My mother passed away nearly 10 years ago from a long illness and I was her main support, although she tried very hard to maintain her independence and not lean on me unless absolutely necessary mainly in order to protect my emotional and physical well being.
I started to see more of my dad since my mothers death and increased communication considerably during lockdown. In the past few months his wife has been diagnosed with cancer and they now both absolutely expect me to provide all sorts of support and care for them both as my dad’s health is also poor. I am starting to feeling incredibly resentful. I worked hard on myself following my mother’s death, getting a new job, social life, etc, but I am still deeply affected by the loss. The level of support my dad and his wife expect from me far exceeds the support my mum expected (or received) from me, I get calls and messages about the health condition of both, several times a day irrespective of what I am doing, demands to drive to and from appointments, visit the house, messages that seem urgent and can’t wait only to just want to chat about themselves, and so on. How can I draw boundaries now before I am completely consumed by them and their needs to the detriment of my own?

OP posts:
Moonshine5 · 04/01/2025 00:42

Lie and say you're busy with work.

stitchy · 04/01/2025 00:43

I am fully on board with telling them to go swivel but get that you might need to convey your feelings a little less directly.

Be clear that you have enjoyed getting to know them over the last few years but as a result of his lack of involvement in your childhood your relationship simply does not have the roots and depth it would require for you to sacrifice parts of your life now to provide the care and support they need.

It is not your duty.

caramelcappucino · 04/01/2025 00:47

Adrienne23 · 04/01/2025 00:10

My dad left home for his now wife of 50 years when I was 8 years old and they by and large lived their own very comfortable lives together, seeing me around 4 times a year until my teens, then we saw very little of one and other aside from speak on the phone twice a month or so. My mother raised me in relative poverty with not much financial support from my dad at the time he used to claim he didn’t have the means and we only discovered in recent years that he and his wife were far better off than they said they were. My mother passed away nearly 10 years ago from a long illness and I was her main support, although she tried very hard to maintain her independence and not lean on me unless absolutely necessary mainly in order to protect my emotional and physical well being.
I started to see more of my dad since my mothers death and increased communication considerably during lockdown. In the past few months his wife has been diagnosed with cancer and they now both absolutely expect me to provide all sorts of support and care for them both as my dad’s health is also poor. I am starting to feeling incredibly resentful. I worked hard on myself following my mother’s death, getting a new job, social life, etc, but I am still deeply affected by the loss. The level of support my dad and his wife expect from me far exceeds the support my mum expected (or received) from me, I get calls and messages about the health condition of both, several times a day irrespective of what I am doing, demands to drive to and from appointments, visit the house, messages that seem urgent and can’t wait only to just want to chat about themselves, and so on. How can I draw boundaries now before I am completely consumed by them and their needs to the detriment of my own?

I’m so sorry you’ve experienced losing your mother to a long battle with illness and that you was mostly estranged from your father growing up.
If I were you, I would cut all contact and advise them to arrange alternative care options for themselves.
You was left to live in poverty with your DM while your father married another woman who from the sounds of things, wasn’t a very nice woman and now that they are old and vulnerable, they expect you to look after them?
Absolutely not. He was not there for you as a child when you was in a vulnerable situation, so why should you return a favour that was never sacrificed for you?
I was in a similar situation to you having just lost my mother, not only was my F absent throughout my whole childhood (and when he was present I have nothing but trauma to account for his every presence unfortunately) but also sickeningly abusive and not life-threateningly ill but still many health problems when I chose to (regrettably) get on a plane and travel half way across the world just months after my DM funeral to give him a final chance of contact almost 15 years later to see if he’d changed as I naively wanted to believe he may not be the same abuser he was when I was that scared, little girl, and oh boy was I so so so wrong, he was a monster and much worst than I could have ever imagined him to be and I chose to walk away and cut all contact for good and with my head held high knowing that I would never doubt that little voice in my head ever again and you know what, good riddance, it was the best decision I could have ever made for that scarred little girl I remember from my childhood (me). Sending you strength & love OP 💐💐💐💐

DaringlyPurple · 04/01/2025 00:48

She's not your mother. She was a party to breaking up your mother's marriage and your father largely ignoring you growing up. She no doubt colluded in giving you and your mother the bare minimum of financial support and hiding that they were much more financially sound than thought. Your mother sounds amazing by the way. There is no moral or ethical reason why you should lift a finger for this pair though. You should live your life the way you want because this selfish pair certainly did.

Freshflower · 04/01/2025 00:50

You have to be honest. As much as your sorry they both have cancer , you can't be at their beck and call throughout the day and night with these expectations, even if you were close growing up , that's seems excessive for anyone to manage. Set out what you can do realistically that you are 100% comfortable with and is manageable for you .I'd also be honest about the way he was when you grew up and how you are still grieving your mothers death. Do they not have any other family for support?

5foot5 · 04/01/2025 00:50

Turophilic · 04/01/2025 00:37

Presumably that he can use Uber, look up Age U.K. and order a Tesco delivery just fine on his own. The OP doesn’t need to do any of that for him!

Possibly. But as he and his now wife have been married for 50 years and he left the marital home when OP was 8, then I am guessing OP could be 60ish. Potentially her father could be late 80s or older.

No doubt there are plenty of people in their late 80s who are able to do these things themselves. But my FIL, for instance, is an intelligent and independent man of 94 but simply has no clue about apps or online shopping. He got a tablet 2 or 3 years ago and seemed to get on OK with it, however he soon got in to such a muddle with Amazon that we had to persuade him to stop using it.

YourGladSquid · 04/01/2025 00:52

I’ve reconnected with my father in my 20s but I don’t have amnesia - if he thinks I’ll be playing carer just because he eventually remembered he has children, he’ll be in for a surprise.

Glitterybee · 04/01/2025 00:54

Turophilic · 04/01/2025 00:37

Presumably that he can use Uber, look up Age U.K. and order a Tesco delivery just fine on his own. The OP doesn’t need to do any of that for him!

My dad is early 70s and wouldn’t be able to do any of that so I don’t think it’s an absurd suggestion

BESTAUNTB · 04/01/2025 00:54

I wouldn’t give an exit speech. I’d just withdraw, subtly, by being unavailable for 90% of their requests. They’ll get the message.

misunderstoodmetoo · 04/01/2025 00:55

I agree with PP feedback re being firm with him about what you are able to offer and directing him to appropriate support.

But want to add that you're focusing on the past relationship but I'd be giving the same advice even if he had been a doting and caring father. It is always IMO reasonable to draw boundaries re elderly care. You can love someone elderly and want to support them but not be willing/able to take on the day to day caregiving. You don't owe this to any family member, regardless of how close you are or how supportive they've been to you in the past. It can very quickly become overwhelming and you can lose years of your own life this way.

outerspacepotato · 04/01/2025 00:58

I had a dad, same story and he got in contact after decades. He had cancer.

An asshole with cancer is still an asshole.

I just said I was unable to help with his home care and maybe he and his wife should call some home health agencies.

With the multiple phone calls per day, I'd be tempted to tell him to stop calling so much because you are busy. If he keeps it up, block.

Randomontheinternet25 · 04/01/2025 00:58

My estranged father has already been told, I will not be responsible for any of later life care and funeral. (Haven't spoken in 10+ years).
I feel no guilt about this.
Op live your life, spend time with ppl you choose to because you love them not because you feel you ought to love them .

lobeydosser · 04/01/2025 01:00

He's totally shameless - how dare he, how dare she? Deny his child all but the most basic support and contact and then expect fulsome back-up and care for him and the OW in his dotage? Ridiculous!

MrsSprouts · 04/01/2025 01:02

Oh op I feel for you.

This is not your caring responsibility.

As a child when you needed the care and support- they were not there for you. How dare they now expect you to do all this for them.

You must prioritise your needs and your life.

What would your dear mum advise you to do?

God bless you.

BabyShock879 · 04/01/2025 01:02

You need to state clearly that you cannot be their carer and they need to make other arrangements.

Selfish people are selfish until the end. They don't change because they're old and dieing.

You need to live your life. Understand that you are no.1. You are the most important person in your life and you need to take care of yourself.

SkaterGrrrrl · 04/01/2025 01:05

Hard relate OP.

I wish you well.

Turophilic · 04/01/2025 01:08

Randomontheinternet25 · 04/01/2025 00:42

I know lots of ppl in their 70s would could not do any of that .

I’d assumed baseline competence - my parents are in their 80s and do this stuff all the time. In-laws too. They hadn’t struck me as outliers.

Pickled21 · 04/01/2025 01:09

You have to be blunt to the point of being rude. I'd point out to him that he didn't fulfil the role of a father, so why is he expecting you to as a dd?Your don't owe them anything. Have a word with yourself, set out whatever boundaries you are comfortable with and learn to communicate them. You sound like a nice person but you are letting them prey on your kind nature, that has to stop.

LongDarkTeatime · 04/01/2025 01:10

Feeling for you, it doesn’t sound easy.
The word ‘no’ is hard but very powerful.
As a people pleaser I find myself being drawn into explaining and justifying myself. Don’t. Say no and leave it at that. Anything else just gives room for arguing you around.
Your Dad clearly understands what it is for someone to put themselves first, so feel free to do just that.

Mnetcurious · 04/01/2025 01:13

BoxOfCats · 04/01/2025 00:23

Just be unavailable. "Sorry, I'm not available to help with that, you'll need to make alternative arrangements." If they bombard you with calls and messages, just ignore them and respond when it's convenient. Tell them you are busy but you will call them on xxx day (whenever actually suits you). They will get the message eventually.

This is pretty much what I was going to say. Be unavailable a lot of the time so they’re forced to make other arrangements. Sunday is not convenient for you, etc etc. Don’t make excuses or concoct lies, just say it doesn’t work for you and if pressed, “I’d rather not go in to detail but I won’t be available” “please respect my privacy” etc. You’re not obliged to answer calls or read their messages immediately.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 04/01/2025 01:13

Im sorry that they’re both Ill and
Im certainly not some frozen hearted bitch but. This is a bloke who walked out of yours and mums lives now he expects you to run round like a blue arse fly on speed. It doesn’t work like that. As harsh as this sounds you don’t owe him or her anything.

Guest100 · 04/01/2025 01:15

It depends on how much of a relationship you want with them. I imagine you feel like you need to have a relationship with your dad as he is your only parent. And if that’s the case just offer very limited support. Help them access the care they need, be able to book them selves an uber. Only answer the phone once a day, and visit when it suits you.

But if you want to tell them to go away that’s ok too. There is no right or wrong way to handle this. But don’t feel you have to drop everything when they call. There are lots of services available to them.

MrsTerryPratchett · 04/01/2025 01:15

YourGladSquid · 04/01/2025 00:52

I’ve reconnected with my father in my 20s but I don’t have amnesia - if he thinks I’ll be playing carer just because he eventually remembered he has children, he’ll be in for a surprise.

This. He wasn't there when you were a dependent, one that he chose. Why on earth should you be there when his wife is?

Job 1; decide what level of contact you want.
Job 2; communicate that firmly.
Job 3; have very good boundaries.

Charliecatpaws · 04/01/2025 01:15

OP you need to take a step back, they were never there for you. Put phone calls to voicemail, tell them they need to use taxis to get to appointments - you have work which you can't drop just to assist them. I'm so sorry for the loss of you Mother, you have no need to assist you father and his wife

Randomontheinternet25 · 04/01/2025 01:17

Turophilic · 04/01/2025 01:08

I’d assumed baseline competence - my parents are in their 80s and do this stuff all the time. In-laws too. They hadn’t struck me as outliers.

That's lovely for you and your parents, but doesn't change what I've written. Sll though it should have said "who" not would

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