What are people doing to their faces?!

[Mania89]

I am mid 30s. Colour my hair, wear makeup, thread my eyebrows etc so not completely natural but my goodness what are people doing to their faces?! Young women who are beautiful now have so much injected into their faces that they cannot move them at all. I was looking back at photos in my mid 20s and was wondering why on earth did I worry about my looks at all. Hindsight is wonderful! And I am despairing that girls younger than this have already started to inject Botox and fillers. The world is going mad and don’t even get me started on weight loss injections for those who are not clinically obese! I have two daughters and really feel so worried for them up.

Imo lasik is a bit different - more of a medical operation as it has health benefits (making sport or swimming easier, even less bruises or accidents from walking into things when you can’t find your glasses! etc). I would say it’s almost the equivalent of breast reduction surgery - there may be aesthetics benefits but I don’t think that’s the primary reason a lot of people do it.

I’m someone who refuses to do most cosmetic treatments, but even I’ve considered lasik as I’d love to wake up in the morning and not have everything be a complete blur until I find my glasses or not have to worry about them breaking and being helpless till I can get my spares😢

Generally I am not a very observant person so don’t tend to notice these things but even I have noticed how so many women seem to have really long faces these days, it’s like their eyes are really high in their face and then there is a really long cheek section. It took me ages to realise this was due to cosmetic ‘alterations’. It’s a very weird look but if they like it that’s up to them I guess!

One of us cares about your thoughts of me. I can kindly confirm, it’s not me. This place is full of people who try to engage others in negative exchanges. I don’t care for it and my rejection always provides a barrage of people like you

Do you feel as though you’ve never benefitted from feminist activism (which of course begins with the right to discuss and debate) in your life? Without it you wouldn’t be able to vote, to have your own bank account or mortgage, access contraceptive healthcare, even access to public toilets. If you’ve never needed any of those things and don’t think they’re important to other women then fair enough. Perhaps all those women that came before you should’ve minded their business too?

You're just derailing the thread which is interesting to many of us, Closetheblinds. You're not interested in what anyone's saying and you needn't be but could you stop please?

I’m just giving the people what they want.
So I disagree with women slating women and that’s not liked. Some think it’s about a debate, you want it to stop. Tell others to stop trying to challenge me with their made up evaluations and trying to change my mind so that I agree with their narrative. It’s really quite simple. The contradictions are wild here.

Do you have a lot of procedures and that is what is upsetting you?

'It's also, in my opinion, narrow minded and more than a little boring?! '

You haven't added anything to make me doubt my earlier post in fact it actually confirmed the content!! 🙄

They’re not slating the woman. They are slating the practice. Very different things.

It's just the latest trend, as has been the case since the dawn of time for all women (and men?).

So trends arise when something scarce/expensive and/or difficult to obtain/maintain - comes along, and it may become especially desirable if society perceives it to pertain to youth, or sexuality.

There have been loads of these sorts of things over the years... lead makeup, corsets, starvation diets, acid perms, all sorts of fancy clothes, super-straight hair, high heels.

Initially, only people with leisure time and money can engage with these sorts of things... normal women have usually been too busy having babies, or working in factories, or collecting the harvest or whatever.

But once it becomes desirable and people find ways to access or emulate it... they use curlers, or use cheap substitutes of some sort, or achieve the look by some other dubious means.

In this case, it's getting two lots of goodness knows what injected into your face by goodness knows who in the back room of the hairdressers.

These facial treatments are becoming accessible... by fair means or foul more and more women are finding a way to access this club of people with this particular desirable thing. And often, it's women with precarious incomes (or 'new money') who are doing this to demonstrate to their peers that ' they're in', and bollox to the consequences. It's certainly not the daughters of the economics professors and art historians who are doing this I'm sure.

The thing is this time, there may be permanent consequences. But it's always been this way. I mean we all know what women with butchered eyebrows are 'like', right? Or barbed wire arm tattoos? Or stretched earlobes?

The behaviour is as old as time, it's just manifesting itself in this particular way at present.

Re quoting yourself still won’t make me care 😆 I don’t feel any less but if it makes you feel more then crack on my love.

Nothing at all 😀 just against women slating women doing what they want to.

I think that perhaps that poster might be worth ignoring. It’s an important discussion to have, and it’s being derailed by someone with odd ideas about their own perceived superiority; she doesn’t appear to understand that having concerns about young women injecting their faces is not synonymous with ‘slating women’.

I think there is a lot that people take for granted, thanks to the hard work of others before them. We need to challenge this practice of lip fillers etc.

Women need to be allowed to age without having their lips injected and skin filled with goodness knows what.

My 18 year old showed me a picture of a girl he went to school with. She'd had her lips done and was unrecognisable. 18 years old is so young. She didn't come come up with the idea herself. These older women are causing young girls to think this is what they should do.

You just don't get it, do you?

Exactly. My 19y old is worried about the future implications for her generation. She has the maturity to understand what is at stake here.

I really think people should keep their opinions and thoughts to themselves. They really need more restraint and stop posting on websites and should definitely not talk to people about what they think.

Ironically this is your opinion though.

This is not an opinion, it’s a fact.

it really is disgraceful that we have papers, websites, social media and forums that all seem to have opinions. Elon Musk should use his power to stop this all.

Oh my god we’ve slipped into a parallel universe with @CovenOfCheeses post. What do you even mean?! Do you know the difference between scientific fact (there are literally no other types of fact) and opinion?? And you’re advocating for the racist, neonazi Elon Musk? Jesus Christ.

Critical thinking is not your forte then.

Most of the current problems, in this country alone, are down to people minding their own business. The Northern cities grooming gangs in the 90s being one of them. Let’s just shut the curtains and turn up the TV it will all go away if we ignore it and mind our own business.

Oh😂😂 @CovenOfCheeses .You’re messing with us right? Sorry, sense of humour failure. Apologies

I think @CovenOfCheeses is being sarcastic…