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What are people doing to their faces?!

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Mania89 · 03/01/2025 23:27

I am mid 30s. Colour my hair, wear makeup, thread my eyebrows etc so not completely natural but my goodness what are people doing to their faces?! Young women who are beautiful now have so much injected into their faces that they cannot move them at all. I was looking back at photos in my mid 20s and was wondering why on earth did I worry about my looks at all. Hindsight is wonderful! And I am despairing that girls younger than this have already started to inject Botox and fillers. The world is going mad and don’t even get me started on weight loss injections for those who are not clinically obese! I have two daughters and really feel so worried for them up.

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EmmaSmiff · 06/01/2025 05:33

A local “beauty technician” keeps advertising on the local social media page, asking “girls! Is lack of lip confidence ruining your life?”. WTF? “Lip confidence”?

LalaPaloosa2024 · 06/01/2025 06:55

I literally don’t care what others do to their faces. If it makes them happy, let them.

Beekeepingmum · 06/01/2025 07:52

I have a friend whose daughter became a "lip technician". She did a two day course, apparently that is all that is needed, her only experience before was volunteering for covid vaccinations which counted as "experience with needles". It is so easy to set up a business injecting peoples faces.

KimberleyClark · 06/01/2025 08:23

I saw Jennie McAlpine on House of Games the other day and found it so refreshing that she has obviously not had lip fillers or had her teeth done. Go Jennie!

isthismylifenow · 06/01/2025 08:30

Beekeepingmum · 06/01/2025 07:52

I have a friend whose daughter became a "lip technician". She did a two day course, apparently that is all that is needed, her only experience before was volunteering for covid vaccinations which counted as "experience with needles". It is so easy to set up a business injecting peoples faces.

This is so scary. Surely there should be stricter regulations than this put into place.

usernamealreadytaken · 06/01/2025 08:40

Anotherparkingthread · 04/01/2025 00:42

Speak out? Lol. Speak out against people looking how they want to look?

And op is clearly upset. Enough so to make an entire thread. What other words would you prefer? Perturbed? Distressed? Hysterical? Traumatized? All rather hyperbolic in comparison but not necessarily inaccurate either.

What other women look like, wether that be filler, hair dye, peircings, tattoos, fat, thin, boob job, short skirts or other clothing choices, doesn't matter a dot to me. So I'm not starting threads about it, desperately trying to find other judgey mares to snort at other women with. I don't feel the need to have my opinions validated by others. I don't need to put other women down. I don't need to busy body in something which, frankly, is optional. Nobody is expecting you to get filler or Botox if you don't like it. I don't go around saying 'urgh, look at that woman with wissened little prune lips! She desperately needs some filler to look normal!' because it would be a twatty thing to say. The same can't be said for those who are sanctimonious about women doing anything to xosmetically alter their appearance, they can't resist sticking their opinion in when it has no effect on their life and no effect on them. These thoughts about others are often also rooted in deep misogyny, these threads reinforce the notion that women's bodies are open to critique and criticism. Posters will often express disgust and say how terrible it looks but then go on to suggest that it makes them or other women feel inadequate. These two statements are contradictory, which means neither argument against is is a particularly good one. Often these type of argument only masquerade as concern, when in reality they come from a place of hatred for other women for simply existing and making choices that do not have any bearing on your life, but do not affirm or align with your own set of beliefs. This is prejudice.

Surely if anything is "rooted in deep misogyny", it's women looking like sex dolls in order to hang out with wealthy men? Dying hair, wearing makeup, choosing short skirts are all ways women historically tried to attract that kind of man, if that was their want, but at least none of these choices were likely to lead to long term permanent damage.

Bodily autonomy is one thing, but having a quiet word with a young person about the potential damage they are doing to themselves is not judgey or putting them down, it can come from a place of genuine concern. No different to me telling my son the dangers of smoking and vaping; it's cool now, but you'll regret it in the long term.

Diggin · 06/01/2025 09:01

Anotherparkingthread · 04/01/2025 00:05

Frankly, while you're entitled to an opinion, they are also entitled to an opinion. It's their bodies. Their choice. They like it.

The only person who getting upset about it is you, and it isn't your business.

It is everyones business when they damage themselves and then look to the NHS or friends to pay for retrospective treatment to sort it. It is a reflection of a very sick self obsessed society. Much of this is done to ‘fit in’ and it is extreme unhealthy on so many levels. So no it isn't only ‘you’ as you have stated and 92% seem to feel like me about it. You might say it’s personal choice but you would be doing something about it if someone was cutting their arms or body and for me this is almost on that level.

Nanny0gg · 06/01/2025 09:21

Ohhelpicantthinkofaname · 05/01/2025 19:21

If I’m honest I think it looks weird and I don’t know why people would choose to look like that. I just don’t get it.

but each to their own, if it makes them happy and it’s not doing any harm and all that.

still don’t understand how it became a trend, but there we go.

But it is doing harm

Filler migrating from its original spot
Frequent use of a toxin (Botox0

What are the future repercussions?

Women and girls have always followed fashions where they've copied a 'look' but those looks have always been temporary. Hair styles/colours. Makeup and clothes. Only permanent one was over-plucking of eyebrows!
Look back on the sixties 'dollybirds'. I think they looked great but it was all much of a muchness. And it was temporary till the next trend came along

Cosmetic surgery. tattooing (eyebrows, lips etc) and treatments are not temporary
I think there's a future of regret to come

AnonymousBleep · 06/01/2025 09:36

KnitFastDieWarm · 06/01/2025 03:01

Not true in my experience - I’ve met plenty of young farmer/hampstead/naice middle class types with this look. It seems to just be ‘the thing’ across large swathes of women, in the same way size zero was ‘the thing’ in the late 2000s.

Agree - lots of middle class girls sport the look. I know a few horsey types in early 20s with the full lip filler and botox thing. I don't think it's a class-based thing at all.

I'm not a fan of the look, as it makes women all kind of look the same. It erases their individuality. But I can understand why people do it. There's so much pressure for girls to do all this stuff to look good, especially on social media. It's nothing new though. These kinds of beauty trends have been around forever - rich Elizabethans used lead powder to whiten their faces, and that was literally life-shortening!

Packetofcrispsplease · 06/01/2025 09:37

I’m past 60 now and have never had anything done .
i look fine , no wrinkles ( possibly due to skin type/ skin tone ) one or 2 sunspots that I might look to dermatologist prescribed topicals to fix but that’s it .
i have stayed out of sun for most of my life but at one point where i lived it was very difficult to avoid it !
im not keen on the overdone look at all

Snakebite61 · 06/01/2025 09:40

Anotherparkingthread · 04/01/2025 00:05

Frankly, while you're entitled to an opinion, they are also entitled to an opinion. It's their bodies. Their choice. They like it.

The only person who getting upset about it is you, and it isn't your business.

I also think it's disgusting to make yourself look grotesque. The only men who find this attractive are as silly as they are.

Letskeepcalm · 06/01/2025 09:57

Namechangedforthis25 · 04/01/2025 00:13

With respect, I don’t think op is upset

she is expressing an opinion

And I totally agree with her - too many 25-35 year old I see in London have the same type of face these days - dark defined brows, fake filled lips,

Well said

Letskeepcalm · 06/01/2025 10:02

Anotherparkingthread · 04/01/2025 00:42

Speak out? Lol. Speak out against people looking how they want to look?

And op is clearly upset. Enough so to make an entire thread. What other words would you prefer? Perturbed? Distressed? Hysterical? Traumatized? All rather hyperbolic in comparison but not necessarily inaccurate either.

What other women look like, wether that be filler, hair dye, peircings, tattoos, fat, thin, boob job, short skirts or other clothing choices, doesn't matter a dot to me. So I'm not starting threads about it, desperately trying to find other judgey mares to snort at other women with. I don't feel the need to have my opinions validated by others. I don't need to put other women down. I don't need to busy body in something which, frankly, is optional. Nobody is expecting you to get filler or Botox if you don't like it. I don't go around saying 'urgh, look at that woman with wissened little prune lips! She desperately needs some filler to look normal!' because it would be a twatty thing to say. The same can't be said for those who are sanctimonious about women doing anything to xosmetically alter their appearance, they can't resist sticking their opinion in when it has no effect on their life and no effect on them. These thoughts about others are often also rooted in deep misogyny, these threads reinforce the notion that women's bodies are open to critique and criticism. Posters will often express disgust and say how terrible it looks but then go on to suggest that it makes them or other women feel inadequate. These two statements are contradictory, which means neither argument against is is a particularly good one. Often these type of argument only masquerade as concern, when in reality they come from a place of hatred for other women for simply existing and making choices that do not have any bearing on your life, but do not affirm or align with your own set of beliefs. This is prejudice.

Oh dear.
You really are upset

DecayingRelic · 06/01/2025 10:06

yeah, watching Law and Order SVU last night, Kelli Giddish, she was an absolutely beautiful woman a couple of years ago, she has really overdone the filler and now looks like the Scream mask, grotesque

and what is all this guff I read on MN about never commenting on a woman's looks and figure? Its human nature, especially someone in the public eye

Maggiethecat · 06/01/2025 10:41

Anotherparkingthread · 05/01/2025 23:36

You do know you don't have to share every mundane, hateful or irrelevant thought that passes through your head you know? It's perfectly possible to keep your opinions to yourself instead of starting entire threads dedicated them.

From the over 600 replies, including your multiple ones, people are expressing their opinion on the matter.

Fabbyfloofloo · 06/01/2025 10:43

ElizabethTaylorsEyebrow · 04/01/2025 00:56

No woman who sports this look grew up in a beautiful victorian house in islington or hampstead, had a dad who was a history of art lecturer and a mum who was a psychologist, read politics at oxford etc.

It is a look closely associated with the group of women who have always been sneered at for their vulgar aesthetic preferences, whether that’s overfilled lips, orange tans, revealing clothes or grey crushed velvet sofas.

So on that level I’m a bit wary of the amount of “concern” directed at these women, on here and elsewhere. Some of it comes across as cloaked snobbery (not the OP, to be clear!).

At the same time… I can’t deny I find this trend utterly disheartening from a feminist perspective.

Do you think?
I perceive cosmetic surgery to be a sign of wealth.
As opposed to the orange fake tan brigade.

Greyrockin · 06/01/2025 10:48

Monkeytoo · 06/01/2025 03:26

The thing I am aware I judge, and have to remind myself, is that it impacts my perception of their intelligence. I know this isn’t correct but it seems to be when faces are completely expressionless and somehow empty. It’s hard to (literally) relate when you can’t see any facial feedback.

I agree a bit with this. My Ring camera captured a crime a few months ago and a female PC came to view the footage. She had lip fillers, the drawn on eyebrows, hair in a messy top knot with 2 long strands at the sides of her face, false eyelashes, tattooed hands and a full-on makeup. Honestly, I was just focussing on how she looked and thinking back to when I wanted to join the police force in the 80's (I was too short back then) - there were definite rules on appearance in the force years ago. I wasn't thinking about the PC's intelligence, but I definitely thought how she looked didn't seem to reflect her professional role.

Dideon · 06/01/2025 10:57

Nicecuppatea2025 · 04/01/2025 00:58

Media, big tech and brands are making us believe we should inject god knows what to be attractive. It makes us care way too much about our own appearance, is a total and utter waste of time and hard-earned money, and ultimately a lot of people look plain weird IRL.

It’s worse than it ever has been and we have got to stop kidding ourselves that we are “choosing” these things to give us “confidence” and make us “happy”. It’s simply not true. It is societal pressure.

Stop pretending it’s ok. It’s not. Give your heads a wobble!

completely agree !

Mrsredlipstick · 06/01/2025 11:12

Beekeepingmum · 06/01/2025 07:52

I have a friend whose daughter became a "lip technician". She did a two day course, apparently that is all that is needed, her only experience before was volunteering for covid vaccinations which counted as "experience with needles". It is so easy to set up a business injecting peoples faces.

Thank you for posting this.
I'm my day beauty training was a 2-3 year city and guilds course (forty years ago) Any treatments carried out needed the collage lecturer to oversee.
It's the same with artificial nails. Anyone with autoimmune disease shouldn't have them. I see such damage from people who have been on a 2 day course merrily applying unsuitable products that cause harm.
I wonder if this 'lip enhance practitioner' has insurance because I can't see the beauty industry professional standards association (HABIA) sanctioning these people. Anything that breaks the skin has to be clinically taught and that is year 3.

angela1952 · 06/01/2025 11:24

My daughter has lip filler, I don't like it but she doesn't take it to extremes. Once it has settled down she looks fine, but different.
She used to have those extra thick black eyebrows but it's worn off and is OK now. She also has botox in her forehead, I think it will stop lines developing but again I don't like her doing it - though at least it doesn't give her that plastercast face look.
I should add that she is in her late 30's and it would never be something that I would have encouraged. I try not to say anything when I can see she has had anything done. Since it seems to be temporary I can only assume that there will be no lasting damage, except to her bank account as it is expensive.
I used to have regular massages, over the years my therapist has had a boob job, threads in her face, large amounts of filler in her face and eventually a face lift. She's around 50 now I think and is completely unrecognisable from the attractive woman I first met - not in a good way sadly.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 06/01/2025 11:31

Anotherparkingthread · 04/01/2025 00:42

Speak out? Lol. Speak out against people looking how they want to look?

And op is clearly upset. Enough so to make an entire thread. What other words would you prefer? Perturbed? Distressed? Hysterical? Traumatized? All rather hyperbolic in comparison but not necessarily inaccurate either.

What other women look like, wether that be filler, hair dye, peircings, tattoos, fat, thin, boob job, short skirts or other clothing choices, doesn't matter a dot to me. So I'm not starting threads about it, desperately trying to find other judgey mares to snort at other women with. I don't feel the need to have my opinions validated by others. I don't need to put other women down. I don't need to busy body in something which, frankly, is optional. Nobody is expecting you to get filler or Botox if you don't like it. I don't go around saying 'urgh, look at that woman with wissened little prune lips! She desperately needs some filler to look normal!' because it would be a twatty thing to say. The same can't be said for those who are sanctimonious about women doing anything to xosmetically alter their appearance, they can't resist sticking their opinion in when it has no effect on their life and no effect on them. These thoughts about others are often also rooted in deep misogyny, these threads reinforce the notion that women's bodies are open to critique and criticism. Posters will often express disgust and say how terrible it looks but then go on to suggest that it makes them or other women feel inadequate. These two statements are contradictory, which means neither argument against is is a particularly good one. Often these type of argument only masquerade as concern, when in reality they come from a place of hatred for other women for simply existing and making choices that do not have any bearing on your life, but do not affirm or align with your own set of beliefs. This is prejudice.

You sound more 'upset' than anybody else. Enough to post such a long ranting post on a thread that you clearly don't agree with.

I'm absolutely in favour of women doing what they want with their own bodies, my posts on any hair-removal thread bear that out, but young women making permanent changes to their faces is something that every woman should be pondering and considering why?

Not your place to shout anybody down for asking those questions/expressing concern.

Dulra · 06/01/2025 11:46

Mrsredlipstick · 06/01/2025 11:12

Thank you for posting this.
I'm my day beauty training was a 2-3 year city and guilds course (forty years ago) Any treatments carried out needed the collage lecturer to oversee.
It's the same with artificial nails. Anyone with autoimmune disease shouldn't have them. I see such damage from people who have been on a 2 day course merrily applying unsuitable products that cause harm.
I wonder if this 'lip enhance practitioner' has insurance because I can't see the beauty industry professional standards association (HABIA) sanctioning these people. Anything that breaks the skin has to be clinically taught and that is year 3.

Anyone with autoimmune disease shouldn't have them.
My daughter has an autoimmune disease, what shouldn't she have????

Mrsredlipstick · 06/01/2025 11:57

Dulra · 06/01/2025 11:46

Anyone with autoimmune disease shouldn't have them.
My daughter has an autoimmune disease, what shouldn't she have????

If you have eczema or psoriasis the body can attack the nail plate as they see it as a forgein body. It can cause the nail plate to lift and bleed. 'Can cause' is always tenuous. Some people are fine.

Katbum · 06/01/2025 11:58

ElizabethTaylorsEyebrow · 04/01/2025 00:56

No woman who sports this look grew up in a beautiful victorian house in islington or hampstead, had a dad who was a history of art lecturer and a mum who was a psychologist, read politics at oxford etc.

It is a look closely associated with the group of women who have always been sneered at for their vulgar aesthetic preferences, whether that’s overfilled lips, orange tans, revealing clothes or grey crushed velvet sofas.

So on that level I’m a bit wary of the amount of “concern” directed at these women, on here and elsewhere. Some of it comes across as cloaked snobbery (not the OP, to be clear!).

At the same time… I can’t deny I find this trend utterly disheartening from a feminist perspective.

This is bollocks. I teach at a university and plenty of my middle-class female students have lip enhancements and fillers. It has become the ‘norm’.

STOPCOLLABERATEANDLISTEN19 · 06/01/2025 12:02

One of the girls i know with is 27 and has filler and botox, i wish these types of people would realise how offputting this look is

Its so high maintenance and most men would run a mile from it

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