What are people doing to their faces?!

[Mania89]

I am mid 30s. Colour my hair, wear makeup, thread my eyebrows etc so not completely natural but my goodness what are people doing to their faces?! Young women who are beautiful now have so much injected into their faces that they cannot move them at all. I was looking back at photos in my mid 20s and was wondering why on earth did I worry about my looks at all. Hindsight is wonderful! And I am despairing that girls younger than this have already started to inject Botox and fillers. The world is going mad and don’t even get me started on weight loss injections for those who are not clinically obese! I have two daughters and really feel so worried for them up.

You may (or may not) have decreased one aging process, but by incapacitating the muscles you have increased another aging process. Then you "need" fillers to fill in things.

Thin lips for example aren’t very attractive. Er what?

Lots of women have thin lips.
Women are attractive because they are women with qualities that are attractive. You don't have to have to gave big eyes, small nose and big lips just because some stupid magazine/man tells you that's the hot thing.
Or maybe it's because "older" women have thinner lips. Good forbid anyone considers an older woman relevant.

You do know you don't have to share every mundane, hateful or irrelevant thought that passes through your head you know? It's perfectly possible to keep your opinions to yourself instead of starting entire threads dedicated them.

Who is the judge of how mundane, hateful or irrelevant a thought is? Oerhaos everyone gas been thinking the same thing all along...

I disagree with the accusation that observing that women in the last few decades have become obsessed with a notion of beauty perpetuated by first advertising and now social media is anything to do with misogyny. It is clearly linked with the very persuasive work of the psychology of marketing, so I see no freedom in what these women “chose” to do. I personally welcome an open conversation about what we think has been happening to get us to want to look in a certain way.

Young pretty women are getting lip fillers in their top lip and it looks terrible.
a) you can tell and it doesn't look good.
b) it affects their speech. Many are lisping because of it.

Elderly crone here..what happens to these filled lips eventually. Do they stay like that, or does the filler get absorbed into the body?

Don't even mention the lips that are so big they can't close their mouths or speak properly and they have to keep on licking their lips because they constantly 'dry out'?! WTAF?! 😱

Lip fillers and fake eyelashes never look natural, they always look ridiculous!

Not true in my experience - I’ve met plenty of young farmer/hampstead/naice middle class types with this look. It seems to just be ‘the thing’ across large swathes of women, in the same way size zero was ‘the thing’ in the late 2000s.

Don’t know if anyone has mentioned this but there are two sisters on Traitors at the moment. One has all the lip filler and heavy makeup, the other is completely natural. The difference is really striking. I love that the natural one, who does seem to get on well with her sister, hasn’t been influenced to follow suit.

The thing I am aware I judge, and have to remind myself, is that it impacts my perception of their intelligence. I know this isn’t correct but it seems to be when faces are completely expressionless and somehow empty. It’s hard to (literally) relate when you can’t see any facial feedback.

I'll admit I don't get the giant lip filler thing at all. It looks alien and unnatural to me but I know some people find it attractive. I put its popularity down to porn, probably. I am very very good at spotting when someone has had filler done.

But I have heard nightmare stories about filler especially - migrating, causing issues if you need it dissolved etc.

The filler migrates into the surrounding tissues and distorted whole area. Repeated injection into the lip damages the blood supply through scarring and the lips lose there natural colour. This happens quite quickly, if you’ve seen any videos of it being done you’ll understand why.
It’s no coincidence that the latest fad is to have a semi permanent stain/colour done. Yet more money lining the pockets of the “technician”. But the beauty industry is modelled around trends so will be making as much money as possible until the “wind changes”.
Once you stop filling them with filler they will be like deflated ballons. The skin is quite thin in the lip it’s. not like the thick skin over the rest of the face
I I suppose the next stage will be a “lip lift” similar to a tummy tuck to stop you dribbling when you lower lip flops down to your chin and no one can understand what you are saying.

Oh and Botox was first used medically to debulk muscles in the jaw to treat TMJ dysfunction. Also in patients with cerebral palsy where the constant muscle spasm in the masseter muscle caused it to bulk up the angle of the jaw creating a permanent grimace or contraction.
Botox paralysed muscles so they debulk or atrophy. Years of atrophy means they stop holding your face up.
Professionally done Botox respects the dept of the muscle groups. If you go too deep it affects the deeper muscles which hold up your face. I doubt any of the beauticians sticking Botox in foreheads would have the faintest idea just how many facial muscles we have.
Get it wrong around to mouth and you won’t be able to drink without dribbling. And you’ll be talking like Jar Jar Binks off Star Wars. In fact many enhanced lips bare an uncanny resemblance to him.

I'm 48 hours out from a total knee replacement and still in pretty agonising pain when not drugged up! I had the op in a private hospital which also does a full range of cosmetic work - nose jobs, full face lifts etc. There were some complications and as I came round I couldn't help wondering why people put themselves through such pain and risk just to look better!

The whole point is, you can share whatever thought you want to, without the politically correct police jumping in. We are all entitled to our opinion and to express it! It’s the benefit of living in a free society!

The truth is if you can tell they have stuff done then they aren’t going to a good injector. It’s a bit like make up, in that a good lrqctitioner will enhance your beauty, not overrun it.

You are only noticing the bottom tier of med aesthetics. Plenty of people look very natural, and they are 50-80 year olds who look 20 years younger. You just wouldn’t know they had anything done.

Anyone who injects needs to have a registered nursing license and must also be operating under the supervision of a physician in my country. In order to do Botox you have take anatomy of facial muscles. When you learn you need to know exactly what muscle you are targeting other wise you can cause drooling and unwanted stuff.

Different people disintegrate filler at different rates but typically it lasts a few months to a few years. You can also get liposuction to harvest unwanted fat and use your own fat as filler. It will be absorbed by the body, yes.

Another old crone question here: so if you use lip filler for a while then stop it, can your lips ever go back to how they were?

It has an impact on lip movement, even if someone has had a very small amount of filler, so when they talk it is obvious, its so obvious it prevents people being able to lip read when they speak.

It's the same here except only a medical doctor is legally allowed to inject into the face. And dentists for the mouth only. Although I don't know any dentists that offer this.

This is probably why it's on the pricy side.

I think it's a much better system.

You clearly don’t work in the city if you think any of that is true.

What amazes me though is that UK tends to have much stricter rules on what medication you can buy over the counter, compared to other countries.

Yet you can go to any random person and have stuff injected into your face.