Elon Musk and Racism

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Inspired by the other long running thread. I keep reading that he tweets and retweets racist comments. Can anyone link any or all of them please? I see tweets over illegal immigration, as opposed to immigration, but not racist?

So instead of opinions please can people post the actual words used or retweeted? Or anything he said in interviews, word for word?

Thanks!

I don't entirely disagree with that, in that I do think Musk is playing games, but re
Musk is no more a Nazi than a communist - I don't think is a reasonable statement in respect of a man who is a predominant supporter of Neo-Nazi linked groups and is frequently critical of communism, or anything he perceives to be communism.

Meh, give him a while and he will switch to another view point

Well I think that’s given.

FUPoPStO

What a pile of codswallop. Do you think you're "intelligent people" then? This is the kind of utter tripe that deluded individuals think of as intellectual now, I guess.

Elon Musk is a racist. No argument. No BS. It was clear before his Nazi salute and it's still true afterwards.

Hth

Thank you for your most erudite response.

S.P.R.A.S😀

I don't believe for a moment it was deliberate - the only people claiming that Musk is Nazi or doing a Nazi salute deliberately are people who have very little knowledge of the history around Hitler, how he came to power, his ideology, his party. I have seen the threads around this, most of which fill up to 1000 in record time - the vast majority of posters who are saying Musk is Nazi then go on to make inaccurate claims about history. The period of history we are talking about has been studied in detail with numerous erudite well known academics having looked at original sources. There is some dispute between them as is always, but the sort of mistakes being made by MN posters making claims about Musk are not in dispute - the mistakes are simply straightforward completely inaccurate and sometimes made up statements.

If someone cannot make a point without insulting other posters, it is not impressive. I am not lying or stupid.

I think you are probably right that he is no more nazi than communist. But I don't think the move was to create division, I find him quite sincere but not always very clear. That is the problem.

I watched him and he was clearly overcome by emotion. He had been ripped apart by certain groups online and certain press elements beforehand and I think he was just overwhelmed to see some positive responses from the crowd.

I can't state that for sure, and I can't know for sure his belief system. And nor can any of the posters on MN. But what I do know for sure is that the way he is being ripped apart online is extreme and unreliable. And that the reasons behind the ripping apart might be to do with a specific agenda against him for specific reasons.

Now, would anyone like to comment on my posts above which are about money markets, not Musk?

Okay, so can you link some actual statements he has made to back up those claims? One single statement to back up what you have said about being anti communist or what you said about his support of neo nazi groups?

No, I don't think you can.

And is "authoritarian" the term being used by any other person who are using their money and platform to try to manipulate geopolitics in order to discredit people who are not of their ilk? Genuine question.

I think that most people are fed up of the mudslinging.

O for crying out loud. What utter twaddle. Disinformation. I hope he's paying you, you're putting a lot of effort into defending the completely indefensible. Good grief.

If you can give details of any "disinformation" at all, with evidence, please do.

He has shown his clear support for the AfD party in Germany who have several links to neo Nazis and who had this as a poster.

Can you see the Nazi salute in that one?

I’ve seen him described as “drug addled” I’ve seen some quite derogatory remarks (which I won’t repeat but you can search for) about neuro divergence. The neo liberals are all for kindness as long as it’s reserved for people who “think” like them.

I asked @Serpentstooth to indicate any "disinformation" in any of my posts. There hasn't been any.

I agree with you about the derogatory remarks (I haven't made any derogatory remarks!)

Can you link Musk's exact words re his support? And context?

In any event, I think for you to say that Musk supports AfD which has been said by [a judge?] to be [whatever it was - I don't know enough about it] (keeping it factual to stay out of the the murky arena of defamation) would be acceptable. For you to say "Musk is a nazi because he supports nazis" without any further explanation or supporting evidence is incredibly unclear.

Sure, here you go, here's Elon Musk speaking at the AfD campaign launch
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/25/europe/elon-musk-germany-afd-protests-intl-latam/index.html

Here he is being condemned by a Holocaust survivor for telling the AfD campaign launch that Germans need to move on from the guilt of the Holocaust
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/27/europe/israel-holocaust-memorial-chair-musk-criticism-intl/index.html?iid=cnn_buildContentRecirc_end_recirc

Here is Marine Le Pen(!) saying that the AfD are too extreme for her party after an AfD politician defended members of the SS.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx88nwy934go

Here's another article discussing the links between the AfD and neo-Nazis.
https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/dangerous-liaisons-the-true-proximity-of-germany-s-afd-to-neo-nazis-a-e69c51d3-4b3c-49d2-8d54-d7b0a19c3f9a

Keen to hear your thoughts as it sounded like you thought I was making it up.

@noblegiraffe has kindly shared information and sources about Elon's full-throated support for the Neo-Nazi AFD.

On Communism - Musk, in his autobiography, lamented what he believed was his child's school turning them into a communist.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/elon-musk-says-progressive-la-school-has-turned-daughter-communist-thinks-anyone-rich-evil

He repeatedly denounced Kamala Harris (who, obviously, is not a communist, and i dont think could even reasonably be called a socialist) as being a communist.

https://www.businesstoday.in/world/us/story/literally-a-communist-elon-musk-sound-alarms-on-kamala-harris-radical-ideology-donald-trump-approves-440605-2024-08-08

He also circulated photoshopped images of Kamala, dressed as a communist dictator.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/elon-musk-harris-trump-communist-ai-x-b2606199.html

So yes, Musk has repeatedly made known that he anti-communist which isn't surprising given his massive wealth.

The latest incarnation of a Kennedy to gallop on to the US political stage is, er, interesting. Having seen him briefly attempting to explain why no vaccines are safe I'm going to stick with getting medical tips from MN. You think the bottom of the barrel has already been scraped but, no, always something worse there to surprise us.

I aee the delightful Calvin Robinson has now copied Musk in doing a Nazi salute on stage. Deny yourselves out of that, Musk enablers.

Can you pop that explanation on here, thanks.

That is self-explanatory. If you require more, look him up. Any news programme from yesterday. Maybe not GB News, he's possibly too embarassing even for them.

I know who he is. I was wondering if you could back up your statement which is contrary to what he said in court yesterday.

You do know the national socialists aren't a million miles away from communism

And an equal number are fed up with the wide-eyed-naive-oh-it-was-just-a-loving-gesture-from-an-autistic-man garbage.

You might be fine with him using his money and his welcoming to Neo Nazis, homophobes and conspiracy theorists platform to put people in power who align with your views, but you'd lose that attitude pretty darn quickly if Soros was doing the same on the other side.

Do you have any response to the factual links posted by @noblegiraffe and @OneLemonDog? Or are you going to just keep repeating yourself?

Fans of Mel Brooks, there's a very apt parody on you tube. 'Springtime for Elon'. He'd be proud.