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Elon Musk and Racism

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raincoatwarmcoatlongcoat · 03/01/2025 20:36

Inspired by the other long running thread. I keep reading that he tweets and retweets racist comments. Can anyone link any or all of them please? I see tweets over illegal immigration, as opposed to immigration, but not racist?

So instead of opinions please can people post the actual words used or retweeted? Or anything he said in interviews, word for word?

Thanks!

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Feelingathomenow · 15/01/2025 11:41

AlisonDonut · 15/01/2025 11:22

Dies anyone remember the woke bro that was protesting against the anti abortion protesters who didn't like a woman who was anti abortion so decided to do a literal kick to her head? He jumped up, swirled round and smashed her in the head with his foot.

Yeah, be kind.

Don’t forget the death and rape threats from left wing woke folk.

FeegleFrenzy · 15/01/2025 11:44

Feelingathomenow · 15/01/2025 11:41

Don’t forget the death and rape threats from left wing woke folk.

And of course there’s never any of that from right wing facists?

of course there’s extremes on both ends. 99% of people aren’t at the extremes.

Feelingathomenow · 15/01/2025 13:53

FeegleFrenzy · 15/01/2025 11:44

And of course there’s never any of that from right wing facists?

of course there’s extremes on both ends. 99% of people aren’t at the extremes.

Ah yes, pretty much as I was saying -extremism exists on both sides, unfortunately we are moving more to a situation where people are gravitating more to the extremes. We should not try and deal with one extreme and not the other as they are interlinked.

FeegleFrenzy · 15/01/2025 14:36

Elon’s move to adopting a more right wing stance including racism is widely believed to be a reaction to one of his kids becoming trans. So a response to what he also perceives as woke on the left. Just a shame he’s swung so far the other way. Or maybe he just used to hide it better before.

Serpentstooth · 15/01/2025 16:32

Woke is entirely an insult that is the property of the Right. When they don't have an argument to present, they whine 'woke' and point fingers until someone is irritated enough to respond and the tiresome cycle of 'you, no you' starts again. Infantile.

AlisonDonut · 15/01/2025 16:41

FeegleFrenzy · 15/01/2025 14:36

Elon’s move to adopting a more right wing stance including racism is widely believed to be a reaction to one of his kids becoming trans. So a response to what he also perceives as woke on the left. Just a shame he’s swung so far the other way. Or maybe he just used to hide it better before.

My observation was that the left went so batshit crazy that was the only other option available. Many of my leftie friends voted for Trump, something they never in a million years thought they would do.

FeegleFrenzy · 15/01/2025 16:44

AlisonDonut · 15/01/2025 16:41

My observation was that the left went so batshit crazy that was the only other option available. Many of my leftie friends voted for Trump, something they never in a million years thought they would do.

Seems slightly crazy. I’m no expert on usa politics but the democrats have always struck me as quite centrist verging towards conservative No USA party seems to be left wing.

justteanbiscuits · 15/01/2025 16:49

AlisonDonut · 15/01/2025 11:22

Dies anyone remember the woke bro that was protesting against the anti abortion protesters who didn't like a woman who was anti abortion so decided to do a literal kick to her head? He jumped up, swirled round and smashed her in the head with his foot.

Yeah, be kind.

Remember the right wing anti abortion activist who BOMBED abortion clinics??

justteanbiscuits · 15/01/2025 16:50

FeegleFrenzy · 15/01/2025 11:44

And of course there’s never any of that from right wing facists?

of course there’s extremes on both ends. 99% of people aren’t at the extremes.

A quick look at responses for Diane Abbots twitter tells you everything about that.

justteanbiscuits · 15/01/2025 16:52

AlisonDonut · 15/01/2025 16:41

My observation was that the left went so batshit crazy that was the only other option available. Many of my leftie friends voted for Trump, something they never in a million years thought they would do.

Did they really?? Honestly??? Because my centrist friends in the US, who are women, are shitting themselves about Trump coming in. 2 are looking at moving to the UK.

ToWhitToWhoo · 15/01/2025 17:47

AlisonDonut · 15/01/2025 16:41

My observation was that the left went so batshit crazy that was the only other option available. Many of my leftie friends voted for Trump, something they never in a million years thought they would do.

Do you actually consider Joe Biden or Kamala Harris to be 'batshit crazy left'? Wow just wow.

What I do hear is that a few lefties, or at least peaceniks, (not people I know personally) voted for Trump because they thought he was so isolationist that he'd be less likely to try and involve America in 'foreign wars'. Of course, no sooner does he get elected, than he starts trying to claim Greenland, and to get Canada to be the 51st state.

AlisonDonut · 15/01/2025 18:05

ToWhitToWhoo · 15/01/2025 17:47

Do you actually consider Joe Biden or Kamala Harris to be 'batshit crazy left'? Wow just wow.

What I do hear is that a few lefties, or at least peaceniks, (not people I know personally) voted for Trump because they thought he was so isolationist that he'd be less likely to try and involve America in 'foreign wars'. Of course, no sooner does he get elected, than he starts trying to claim Greenland, and to get Canada to be the 51st state.

I mean, yes indeed they are batshit crazy.

No idea why you find this 'wow' worthy.

chicken2015 · 15/01/2025 18:11

AlisonDonut · 15/01/2025 18:05

I mean, yes indeed they are batshit crazy.

No idea why you find this 'wow' worthy.

Demacrates in general r not considered left at all if compared to uk politics or world, they seem definitely more Conservatives our right, so yes definitely a wow worthy! It's crazy to consider american politics a right and left issue! It's more a extreme right and right/center issue! I know if u follow the right they will constantly bang on about the crazy extreme left and label demacrates that but that's not real reality, that's to rile up their base on anger and hatred which it seems to have worked! Especially on u!

AlisonDonut · 15/01/2025 18:26

chicken2015 · 15/01/2025 18:11

Demacrates in general r not considered left at all if compared to uk politics or world, they seem definitely more Conservatives our right, so yes definitely a wow worthy! It's crazy to consider american politics a right and left issue! It's more a extreme right and right/center issue! I know if u follow the right they will constantly bang on about the crazy extreme left and label demacrates that but that's not real reality, that's to rile up their base on anger and hatred which it seems to have worked! Especially on u!

Edited

You bang on about the extreme far right without explaining why not wanting gay kids sterilised is such a right wing position.

Feel free to educate me on that one.

chicken2015 · 15/01/2025 18:30

AlisonDonut · 15/01/2025 18:26

You bang on about the extreme far right without explaining why not wanting gay kids sterilised is such a right wing position.

Feel free to educate me on that one.

Nice little deflection here 😆🙄 I haven't mentioned anything about gay kids being sterilised, which u obviously knew. Its moments like these as an example of right wing misinformation/disinformation in plain sight!
Maybe educate ur self on the spectrum of left and right and how America demacrates are in terms of world politics might be useful

FeegleFrenzy · 15/01/2025 18:36

chicken2015 · 15/01/2025 18:30

Nice little deflection here 😆🙄 I haven't mentioned anything about gay kids being sterilised, which u obviously knew. Its moments like these as an example of right wing misinformation/disinformation in plain sight!
Maybe educate ur self on the spectrum of left and right and how America demacrates are in terms of world politics might be useful

Totally. For a post on a right wing man’s racism the fangirls just seem to want to constantly bring the conversation round to trans. It’s very odd.

chicken2015 · 15/01/2025 18:45

FeegleFrenzy · 15/01/2025 18:36

Totally. For a post on a right wing man’s racism the fangirls just seem to want to constantly bring the conversation round to trans. It’s very odd.

It's not surprising as it's calls for the whole "what about the children" or other " think of the children" , in america its seems the right push the narrative that trans people are dangerous and predatory, it's emotive to try and pull at people's heart strings, in my opinion parts of american right seem to be quite obsession with idea of sex trafficking (see tim ballard!) Like they need to protect the children! Deep rooted in religion and saviours)I mean their isn't much u can defend on musk and racism it's all out there! So they need to cling to something! Right wing propaganda is a real thing. I cant say there is no left wing propaganda I would like to see it to belive it more. As right wing is just so outthere and so widespread.

AlisonDonut · 15/01/2025 19:32

FeegleFrenzy · 15/01/2025 18:36

Totally. For a post on a right wing man’s racism the fangirls just seem to want to constantly bring the conversation round to trans. It’s very odd.

Well, Biden's very first act in office was what exactly?

AlisonDonut · 15/01/2025 19:34

chicken2015 · 15/01/2025 18:45

It's not surprising as it's calls for the whole "what about the children" or other " think of the children" , in america its seems the right push the narrative that trans people are dangerous and predatory, it's emotive to try and pull at people's heart strings, in my opinion parts of american right seem to be quite obsession with idea of sex trafficking (see tim ballard!) Like they need to protect the children! Deep rooted in religion and saviours)I mean their isn't much u can defend on musk and racism it's all out there! So they need to cling to something! Right wing propaganda is a real thing. I cant say there is no left wing propaganda I would like to see it to belive it more. As right wing is just so outthere and so widespread.

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Well, I think sterilising kids is bad.

chicken2015 · 15/01/2025 19:44

AlisonDonut · 15/01/2025 19:34

Well, I think sterilising kids is bad.

So ur replying to me to a comment u made and saying again same thing without any mention of what was my response to u. Yes like I said u deflected. And u don't seem to be able to stop. What a surprise 🙄

ToWhitToWhoo · 15/01/2025 19:50

Do you think it is extreme left to want some form of guaranteed public healhcare? To object to kids being too frequently gunned down in school? To object to the actions of groups like the Proud Boys? To object to women having their reproductive rights taken away?

AlisonDonut · 15/01/2025 19:51

I have no idea what your response was, I can't make head or tail of your argument apart from everything you don't like is far right.

Why don't you consider a government that is so obsessed with sterilising gay kids to be far right or utterly batshit? Instead of deflecting yourself, just explain what is not batshit about that policy.

AlisonDonut · 15/01/2025 19:53

ToWhitToWhoo · 15/01/2025 19:50

Do you think it is extreme left to want some form of guaranteed public healhcare? To object to kids being too frequently gunned down in school? To object to the actions of groups like the Proud Boys? To object to women having their reproductive rights taken away?

This from a government who can't even explain what a woman even is.

ToWhitToWhoo · 15/01/2025 19:58

AlisonDonut · 15/01/2025 19:53

This from a government who can't even explain what a woman even is.

I don't need government to explain what a woman is; I know who I am. I just need government to refrain from discriminating against me or oppressing me because I'm a woman, or indeed for any other reason.

ToWhitToWhoo · 15/01/2025 20:00

AlisonDonut · 15/01/2025 19:51

I have no idea what your response was, I can't make head or tail of your argument apart from everything you don't like is far right.

Why don't you consider a government that is so obsessed with sterilising gay kids to be far right or utterly batshit? Instead of deflecting yourself, just explain what is not batshit about that policy.

I don't know of any government that is obsessed with sterilizing gay kids.

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