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ChannelFiveDrama · 03/01/2025 09:51

@ThejoyofNC you can't be real. And if you are then you're an ill informed fool. So either way it's not worth my time.

DoingTheBestICan · 03/01/2025 09:51

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Where did I say that I believe in foreign interference?

ThejoyofNC · 03/01/2025 09:51

Imagine being angry because someone is trying to stop the grooming gangs. You ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

Upstartled · 03/01/2025 09:51

Are people deliberately ignoring that these organised gangs of raping and torturing thugs were ignored by the police and local government and the media because of the ethnicity of the perpetrators and that is why ethnicity is significant?

Lonelycrab · 03/01/2025 09:52

The further that ketamine addled sociopathic sack of shit is from UK politics the better. Mars would be ideal.

Are you out of your mind OP?

Abbyk1980 · 03/01/2025 09:52

DoingTheBestICan · 03/01/2025 09:51

Where did I say that I believe in foreign interference?

If you think it’s acceptable that Elon Musk because don’t forget he’s not just an individual he’s now in American government he’s got a lot of say trying to topple the labour party with false disgusting claims then yes if you believe that should happen then you are a traitor and that is to anybody that supports Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farage who want to get rid of a government that was voted in six months ago

TheGander · 03/01/2025 09:52

ExtraOnions · 03/01/2025 09:48

There was a gang near me, of men, who were investigated and prosecuted for grooming & raping an underage girl. She was white and they, like the vast majority of sex offenders in this country, were also white.

Why are we not pressing for an enquiry in the endemic levels of male sexual violence against women and girls, regardless of the colour of the perpetrators ?

Is Musk etc only angry when it’s brown men doing the raping ?

The ones shouting for an enquiry are also the most Vocal about Shamina Begum not being allowed back in the country … 15 year old White Girl groomed & raped = Victim, 15 year old Brown Girl groomed & raped = “knew exactly what she was doing”

Of course the whole thing is thinly veiled Racism.

Calling the reaction to the Asian grooming gangs racism has been done to close down any legitimate questions and anger about this phenomenon. It’s perfectly normal to ask questions and be angry, the vast majority of perpetrators of this type of gang driven grooming preying mostly on vulnerable white girls are Pakistani men. What is it about their culture that has fostered this behaviour?

MrsSchrute · 03/01/2025 09:53

*Nazir Afzal, the ex-chief prosecutor who was central to successful prosecution of the Rochdale grooming gang, said lengthy and expensive inquiries were not acted upon by the previous Conservative government.

Maggie Oliver, who resigned from Greater Manchester police to speak out about police failings in child exploitation, said she did not want to hear more “empty promises and political manoeuvrings”*

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jan/02/ex-chief-prosecutor-rejects-musks-calls-for-new-child-abuse-inquiry

I would rather pay attention to people who know what they're talking about then foreign supporters of a known rapist.

Grammarnut · 03/01/2025 09:54

He's not putting on pressure to help the victims of grooming gangs. Mind, Labour seem very unbothered by them - but it attacks part of their core mindset: that vulnerable groups (in this case the S. Asian immigrant community) can never be oppressors (this somewhat explains Corbyn's support for Hamas btw).

DoingTheBestICan · 03/01/2025 09:54

Abbyk1980 · 03/01/2025 09:52

If you think it’s acceptable that Elon Musk because don’t forget he’s not just an individual he’s now in American government he’s got a lot of say trying to topple the labour party with false disgusting claims then yes if you believe that should happen then you are a traitor and that is to anybody that supports Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farage who want to get rid of a government that was voted in six months ago

At no point have I said that a general election should be called, I care about young girls and women being let down repeatedly by all incompetent political parties in the UK.
I think you should maybe stop saying that traitors should be shot

1dayatatime · 03/01/2025 09:55

@Abbyk1980

"And probably that’s because they don’t think he’s left enough which interestingly is not what this post is about"

You are correct- they quit because they don't think he is left enough:

news.sky.com/story/amp/labour-lose-control-of-council-as-20-councillors-quit-with-attack-on-sir-keir-starmer-13282867

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TheGander · 03/01/2025 09:56

I grew up in a Muslim Arab country and believe me if Pakistani gangs had been going around targeting local girls they would have been left in a sorry state by local vigilantes. It’s only Europeans who are terrified of being seen as racist towards non Europeans.

Abbyk1980 · 03/01/2025 09:57

1dayatatime · 03/01/2025 09:55

@Abbyk1980

"And probably that’s because they don’t think he’s left enough which interestingly is not what this post is about"

You are correct- they quit because they don't think he is left enough:

news.sky.com/story/amp/labour-lose-control-of-council-as-20-councillors-quit-with-attack-on-sir-keir-starmer-13282867

So that shows that he’s doing it right because the right wing don’t like him and the left don’t like him he’s in the centre which is good politics

Abbyk1980 · 03/01/2025 09:58

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There is no violence coming from me do I believe that traitors should be killed? Yes because thinking that a political interference should take down a democratically voted government is bat shit crazy

HonoraBridge · 03/01/2025 09:58

ThejoyofNC · 03/01/2025 09:51

Imagine being angry because someone is trying to stop the grooming gangs. You ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

🎯🎯🎯🎯 Sickening, isn’t it?

Abbyk1980 · 03/01/2025 09:58

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I thought the far right like freedom of speech

TheThreeCheesesOfTheApocalypse44 · 03/01/2025 09:58

Is that Elon who's best mates with the yellow rapey bloke ? 🤔

Abbyk1980 · 03/01/2025 09:59

DoingTheBestICan · 03/01/2025 09:54

At no point have I said that a general election should be called, I care about young girls and women being let down repeatedly by all incompetent political parties in the UK.
I think you should maybe stop saying that traitors should be shot

Well, if you don’t agree with Elon Musk trying to take down this government, then you’re not a traitor so don’t worry about what I say

BellissimoGecko · 03/01/2025 10:00

Ariadneefron · 03/01/2025 09:40

There was a national inquiry that took 7 years, published in 2022 and it is here.

Perhaps anyone interested in arguing the subject could begin by reading it.

Yes!! Such a lot of misinformation on this thread.

HonoraBridge · 03/01/2025 10:01

Upstartled · 03/01/2025 09:51

Are people deliberately ignoring that these organised gangs of raping and torturing thugs were ignored by the police and local government and the media because of the ethnicity of the perpetrators and that is why ethnicity is significant?

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Spot on. 🎯

PandoraSox · 03/01/2025 10:01

ThejoyofNC · 03/01/2025 09:51

Imagine being angry because someone is trying to stop the grooming gangs. You ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

What is Musk doing to try to stop grooming gangs? Why is he speaking up now, when the grooming gangs have been known about for a very long time and many of the members have been prosecuted and jailed (including the case he tweeted about. Mohammed Karrar was jailed in 2013 and also prosecuted again in 2018/19 whilst still in prison on a life sentence).

Do you really think he cares about the victims?

BrickRedLipstick · 03/01/2025 10:03

I know someone who was a social worker in one of the areas at the time and when people say there was a cover up and victim blaming they are dead right. According to this person being raped and drugged by a gang of men was a ‘lifestyle choice.’ I’m about as left wing as you can get and I am delighted this is being spoken about because believe me when I say this is still going on today. Unless you would be happy with your 11 year old daughter having her anus stretched to accommodate penises of 4 men then I suggest you shut the fuck up.

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 03/01/2025 10:04

Lonelycrab · 03/01/2025 09:52

The further that ketamine addled sociopathic sack of shit is from UK politics the better. Mars would be ideal.

Are you out of your mind OP?

Is he ketamine addled?

MilitantFawcett · 03/01/2025 10:04

All those calling for a FURTHER inquiry what do you believe this will achieve? Someone mentioned stopping these gangs forming? Musk, Yaxley-Lennon, Farage etc etc have had nearly 20 years to press for change since Ann Cryer (a Labour mp if it matters) first helped bring this to national attention.

A great place to start would be pressuring the govt to implement the recommendations from the 2022 inquiry. Then perhaps someone could look at limiting the ability of violent misogynists and incels from spreading their propaganda on SM.

If only Musk was in a position to do something about that…

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