Aibu to be very happy Elon Musk is putting so much pressure on Stamer over the grooming gang tragedies?

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14245611/Elon-Musk-Labour-Keir-Starmer-grooming-inquiry.html

Labour seem to be very annoyed. Surely this is a very good thing ?

It is a very emotive & relative topic for most people in England who are horrified at the terror & abuse these girls endured at the hands of those rapists. Why shouldn't it be discussed? Would you prefer the way the msm handled it?

Apparently the Tories are now calling for an inquiry, even though they've already done one and ignored its findings...

I just realised that the enquiry results were released when I was living overseas which is why it passed me by.

But if I cared about this as much some here claim to I would be all over it, and be completely up to date with the content.

I will be downloading and reading in detail but this gives me a broader worry about the state of democracy when the wilfully ignorant can be whipped up into believing things that aren’t true so readily. Where people need to be handheld and force fed information otherwise they will insist it’s not happened.

Scary times ahead.

So let me get this right:

It’s correct Musk - not a U.K. citizen or politician - calls for the Labour government to be dissolved because the entirely of the Rotherham and Oldham scandals are Labours fault only.

When the Tories were in power and did nothing to address the enquiry outcomes it was Labour’s sole responsibility as the opposition to bring change.

Now that Labour are in, it is solely their responsibility as government to bring change.

At no point has the Tory party ever had any responsibility and should not be held as culpable because….

At this point I have to assume the OP cares as much about the victims of sexual exploitation as much as Musk does - as political fodder to advance support for their own agendas. Shameful.

And for the record I believe these girls were left down by ALL sides.

Why have you not read the output of the national enquiry that has already been held?

Which party was in government in 2022?

I want those who turned a blind eye or who failed to act thoroughly prosecuted, just as I want those who failed the residents of Grenfell Tower, or whose inactions caused avoidable Covid deaths. In the case of Rotherham, senior figures in South Yorkshire Police, a force that has history of failure including Orgreave and Hillsborough.

Action, not another inquiry or a re-opened one that just postpones action.

I agree we should refer to them as rape gangs.

Ah well, that's a shame.

People are calling out Labour because they are in power

Well labour were in opposition at the time, why didn't they demand the findings were implemented. They were in it together labour & tories. They should have done their job as opposition.

There are 3.4 million girls 14 and under in England. Elon Musk just wrote that 1 out of every 13 such girls is right now being “systematically raped by migrant gangs.” The man has gone utterly insane. He’s a sociopath. His latest post is—unambiguously—neo-Nazi rhetoric intended to incite violence.

https://bsky.app/profile/sethabramson.bsky.social/post/3lesip2yok22j

You could Google the police report and find how the police officers were disciplined.

Combined with the previous links it is only 500 pages or so.

Ctrl+f may help speed you up.

@Haroldwilson that's a very strong response from someone who clearly hasn't read any reports or seen any comments about this which was, corruption aside : they didn't want to seem racist ie police, council, school and so on

So no then.

If anyone is actually interested in how public inquiries (on any topic) currently work and the shortcomings of the system, the Lords Statutory Inquiries Committee presented a report into that topic in September

https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/702/statutory-inquiries-committee/news/202927/failing-to-follow-up-on-public-inquiry-recommendations-risks-avoidable-mistakes-being-repeated/

There have been 18 public inquiries last year - Grenfell, Contaminated Blood, Covid 19 response, Post Office Horizon Scandal and Lucy Letby would be the most high profile. Any one want to guess at the others?

The report conclusion:
"But too often inquiries are failing, chiefly because when they report there is no obligation on government to act. It doesn’t have to give reasons for rejecting recommendations. And if it says it accepts them, there is no systematic means of monitoring implementation. Inquiries cannot themselves pursue government because the moment they report, they cease to exist. Hopes raised by the outcome of an inquiry can be dashed by government inaction"

There was an inquiry into the rape gangs.

A better focus would be on ensuring all public inquiries have their actions points and recommendations followed up on. Otherwise any future inquiry would also have potentially little actual impact.

But I doubt Elon and his gormless supporters have much interest in actual policy and implementation, just hoping to blow some dog whistles and get the racists riled up.

Op bothered to respond to my post, but not actually the question I asked.

Not that it matters in a sense. Musk’s supporters are going to be drawn from both those with a right-wing agenda and the naive. Doesn’t really matter much which the op is in the final analysis.

I couldn’t agree with you more. Whatever happens in the next few years, if it’s ‘a lurch to the right’ - it would be a direct result of the failure of the left wing. More than anything else. The truth hurts.

You know ‘hysterical’ has misogynistic overtones, yes?

This new breed of oligarchs like Elon Musk trying to control the world is terrifying.

If I was religious I would call it devilish.

Quite.

BTW the conservatives also rejected a call for natinal probe, just for the posters who care more about politics than this actual issue

Ok reading further it seems that the 2022 covered child abuse cases across a variety of institutions.

People calling for a new one only want to focus on Pakistani rape gangs this time because, I presume, they are ok with abuse of children and girls as long as the perpetrators are not of Pakistani heritage.

While he also campaigns on X for the release of people like Tommy Robinson…

Elon Musk is giving the people of the UK a voice. The fact that he has to in this scenario is disgusting. The inquiry should have already taken place ffs.

Are you also calling out the billionaire Pritzker family or do you let them off the hook because they work behind the scenes?