Aibu to be very happy Elon Musk is putting so much pressure on Stamer over the grooming gang tragedies?

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14245611/Elon-Musk-Labour-Keir-Starmer-grooming-inquiry.html

Labour seem to be very annoyed. Surely this is a very good thing ?

What does “Hard Left” mean to you?
What is your definition of a personal attack and can you point to where these have been made?
Do you not see the irony in complaining about “personal attack al while labelling anybody who writes something you disapprove of “hard left”?

What’s that got to do with the fact there’s been openness, including a wide ranging inquiry, since?
Everyone accepts it was handled badly in the first instance (if you mean Oldham/Rotherham rather than wider examples of CSA). That doesn’t mean there’s a current cover up.

So you are saying Labour failed to hold them to account?

Ouch!

Grooming is what one does to horses and dogs.

It is NOT rape and torture.
These poor girls were selected because they were white and vulnerable.

A 16yr old who worked in her family convenience shop said to me once ''The trouble with English girls, they are not beaten enough.

I got into this conversation as that shop used to sell alcohol to underage girls, and I asked the owners why. {The man in shop was very aggressive, but I said 'imagine if it was your child?' {I don't have a daughter} but it seemed so wrong to be selling vodka and those 'alco~pops' to young teens

I used to chat to the daughter of the shop owner as she longed to have a career and go to University - but she was set to be married to someone in Pakistan, and further education wasn't an option.

She did disappear.

Heaven forbid!

And how do you know that?

I completely agree with this. That in itself is a national travesty. Why are these girls (according to the House of Lords 250,00 affected ) less important than keeping a certain group of society happy? Why?

Out of interest - those calling for a new enquiry: have you read in detailed the output of the national enquiry that was concluded in 2022?

Government inquiries are useless if the politicians ignore the recommendations. Look at Leveson.

There was an inquiry into Hillsborough shortly after but it didn't stop the families fighting for decades for a further inquiry to get justice.

It’s also a matter of fact, on public record, that there has been ann investigation and report.

It’s great it’s being discussed here. But where is the MSM coverage? Why isn’t everyone talking about the wider topic, not just covering what EM has to say on X?

Both are a disgrace. They were also mostly Labour councils involved.

Whats the truth in your opinion?

Surely the Police have all the powers they need, the laws on "grooming" its actually rape and sexual assault, are very strong, penalties high, many court trials and convictions in this area of enforcement.

Do you deny the "truth" that there has been an extensive report, findings published 2 years ago and ignored by the previous Govt, on top of reports on Telford and Rotherham.

Do you think a new inquiry, lasting years, will solve anything?

As you know the terminology used by the poster is hysterical, the fact that she only opened the thread out of rage that this thread exists is hysterical and
reporting this thread for existing is hysterical. These posters were unable or unwilling to exercise self control and iinstead hysterically opted to try to silence others.

I do hope that now that you have been clearly answered several times you won't also get hysterical.

There is MSM coverage.

Both on the 2022 enquiry and the current discussion. A brief Google showed me that.

People want to be hand held and spoon fed information and without that are claiming MSM is not covering it.

Exactly!! Is was Labours job as opposition to ensure the enquiry was satisfactory with all the findings implemented. Now it's their job to reopen the equity, implement every recommendation & prevent this from escalating further.
Right now England is being humiliated on a global stage .. and rightly so!

Because MSM are part of the establishment. It's all a big club.

What terminology is hysterical? Specifically?

Can you highlight the “hysterical parts”?

How is giving a view on Musk and wanting him to stay out of UK politics “hysterical” and “shutting down debate?”

Which part is hysterical in tone:

To want Elon Musk to stay the fuck out of U.K. politics? 41 replies

Birdscratch · Today 11:19
And German politics and just focus on the President he’s already paid for and turning X into a toxic wasteland.

Haven't they already been investigated and prosecutions followed. They are asking the local authority to look at their procedures and do an Enquiry. They aren't ignoring it. That's just what the right wing press are saying

Why do you want to reopen an enquiry which would mean slowing down implementation of actions?

Good grief. I don’t know where to start with this.

This is the most depressing thread I’ve ever read on here and sadly not because of the topic.

If he wants to make a difference he could start by cleaning up X.

I have to say that’s a very good point. Twitter is really bad for porn and misogynistic content. Sure it exists all over the internet but in most places you have to look for it. On there it’s delivered to you every 2 minutes.

Doesn't mean he is wrong on this.

Musk or no Musk, why are we not doing more.

So many people are affected. The girls themselves. Young men who grow up to assume such behaviour is acceptable, so end up on the outskirts of society and eventually in prison. Girls and women in their own communities who may well be treated with an equivalent lack of respect, but with even less agency than the rape victims. Rapists rarely make good husbands.

What is wrong with our politicians? And indeed with some of the opinions expressed here. Why would you minimise something so awful just because someone who you don't like uses their platform to say something that needs saying?