Aibu to be very happy Elon Musk is putting so much pressure on Stamer over the grooming gang tragedies?

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14245611/Elon-Musk-Labour-Keir-Starmer-grooming-inquiry.html

Labour seem to be very annoyed. Surely this is a very good thing ?

It is about girls being raped and tortured and posters trying to shut down the debate.

He doesn’t “say things as he sees them” because he’s on the spectrum 🙄. Dear god. The man is a greedy megalomaniac who acts in his own self interest. That’s all he’s interested in - furthering his power and wealth.

The thread is about him so obviously people will mention him.

Another poster is so hysterically enraged at this thread she's started an anti Elon Musk thread, here's a reply from another hysteric stating that she has reported this thread for existing.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/amibeingunreasonable/5243724-to-want-elon-musk-to-stay-the-fuck-out-of-uk-politics?reply=141042614&utmcampaign=thread&utmmedium=share

Yeah they have. As I said, want to know why people are turning to populist figures? The hard left trying to shut down any uncomfortable discourse is the problem. Hard left, hard right are BOTH the problem. In this case, it’s the left that need to have a good long look at how their views enabled this abuse. Your posts are a great example of the whatterboutery hard left talk.

JFC
THERE HAS BEEN AN INQUIRY

Suella Braverman, Priti Patel, Grant Shapps and James Cleverly all failed to implement the recommendations.

As if he’s doing this because he cares about the victims. He’s doing this to stir up hatred and back his new bestie Farage.

If he honestly gave a shit about the victims of sexual abuse, he would not have so heavily backed Trump. (Partly) thanks to him the US has a sex offender as its new president.

Please let’s not think Elon is a good guy. He’s a very dangerous man.

And yet the issue is widely discussed.

Evidently “shut down debate” means something different to you than it does in reality.

(and I am well aware why people turn to populist figures and it’s not because of people “shutting down debate”. If people turn to the far right it says a lot about them. And nothing good.)

Commenting on the topic is not “Whataboutery” and being a fiscal conservative is not “hard left”.

You are using words you don’t understand.

As you are aware, it is only in the last few weeks that any sort of widespread public debate has taken place, and that in large part because Americans, including Musk, have been asking questions about the rape gangs.

Where does the inquiry cover immigrant cultures? Or recommended prosecution of police who failed to protect children?

If you think this topic has only been discussed in the “last few weeks” then you are wilfully deaf, dumb and blind”.

I have been privvy to discussions on this for years. Why did you not notice?

Where are the hysterics?

What does “covering immigrant cultures” mean?

https://x.com/quicksortuk/status/1874857278396117322?t=RX8RNqFXxEl3N3Mbwz_vXg&s=19

Are the victims still girls or are they over 18 and can vote now?

I know this will be unpopular but I think it needs to be said.
Before I say it, please note: yes the crime was rape, yes the police should have done more, yes the poor girls were vulnerable and taken advantage of, yes the whole thing was disgusting and yes I think there was an element of police and social workers being too afraid of being accused of being racist.

BUT… I think SOME of the problem was due to the attitude prevalent among social workers at the time that teenagers (and yes I know some of the poor victims weren’t even old enough to be called teenagers) should be allowed to make their own "lifestyle choices". I was told this by a SW when I reported how a young teenager kept bunking off school to go and have sex with (white) men. I was also told that there was nothing they could do to stop teenagers in care from choosing to leave their children’s home or foster carers every evening to go to the homes of these men (who the girls naively thought were their boyfriends but who were really rapist abusers) "because we’re not allowed to lock them up so we can’t stop them going out if they choose to".

Don’t shoot the messenger.

I hope something has changed.

Where is anyone shutting down debate by pointing out:

-There has been an enquiry
-Tory party did NOTHING in response
-Labour can still be held to account
-This cannot happen again
-Musk does not give a shiny shit
-The Musk is a hero posters appear to have zero knowledge of what has been done to date and are reacting only to the dog whistling

How is pointing any of this out closing debate? The people actually closing any debate down are those saying ‘waaah if you don’t agree with me, you are shutting me down! You are the evil ones!’

Elon Musk is an arsehole. Everything is for his own personal agenda. He has too much money and people have given him too much of a voice in everything. The scandal of the grooming gangs will haunt us for ever. It happened. It keeps happening. We should be tackling why and what preventions can be put in place from all political parties and anyone who doesn’t want to get on board needs a good think about their values. All our girls are important and deserve our protection especially the very vulnerable.

One person saying they want a foreign billionaire to stay out of UK politics and another saying they reported one commenter for trolling.

How exactly is this SHuttInG dOwN deBAte?

1000% this! I don't give a fiddlers fuck who is holding govt to account just as long as it's done. All the better that it's done on a global scale which will more than likely humiliate them into doing something as some sort of damage control.

Also love the fact that Musk is being hailed as a hero for supporting women yet women posting any concerns about Musk and his agenda are ‘hysterical’ - hmmm what playbook does that tactic come from?

Not feminism 101, that’s for fucking sure.

As you can see the title and many of the comments are hysterically enraged, along with the fact that the thread was started in hysterical opposition to the fact that this thread even exists, and one poster was so hysterical she reported this thread for existing.

But you already know that.

You're now becoming a bit of a bore, rather like Elon Musk.

I'm not sure what a new inquiry will tell us that the previous ones by Alexis Jay etc didn't tell us already. People undoubtedly failed and failed massively in nipping Rotherham and Rochdale cases when allegations first emerged. I'm far from convinced that there is evidence of the sort of malfeasance that would have cost people their jobs at the time never mind justify prosecutions now.

Musk, for his own reasons, has a vendetta against our PM and thinks that becuase Starmer was DPP at the time he can be amongst those brought down.

Badenoch should know better than to jump on this bandwagon; her own party repeatedly refused, on reasonable grounds, to launch the sort of inquiry Musk wants.

If only the Tories were held to account in 14 years like Labour are. They got away with murder and Labour (who are not up to much) are dealing with the fallout of the resulting societal collapse.