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Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 11:12

cardibach · 03/01/2025 11:10

There. Has. Been. An. Inquiry.

I don’t know where Musk gets the idea there hasn’t, or that Labour is blocking it or why he’s interested at all. It’s certainly not care for women and girls.

Well the inquiry wasn't much good was it. Changes need to be implemented so it is time to reopen the inquiry to ensure nothing like this ever happens again.

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Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 03/01/2025 11:13

@Chainzreaction
Well this has been a huge failure on the part of the UK government & I for one have no confidence in them.

Which UK Government? The one who ignored the recommendations I assume?

PlopSofa · 03/01/2025 11:13

Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 11:12

Well the inquiry wasn't much good was it. Changes need to be implemented so it is time to reopen the inquiry to ensure nothing like this ever happens again.

That is my biggest question. Is it still happening?

Upstartled · 03/01/2025 11:13

Well, one thing is for sure, the amount of airtime and column inches filled in the media today is a result of Elon's fast and loose twittering.

This is the shot across the bow. It's not how anyone would like to conduct a proper conversation that conveys the depths of betrayal and pain caused by the establishment's response to the raping gangs. And the whattaboutery that follows.

If people would like a more sensible discussion about the topic then I'd suggest less minimising and tarring of uncomfortable voices and more listening. Otherwise this will be the low hanging fruit that further fuels more inflammatory voices looking to spin pain into political capital.

Over40Overdating · 03/01/2025 11:13

This thread is a masterclass in how people like Musk sway elections. The proud lack of knowledge on display about an issue so many claim to care so deeply about.

An enquiry has been carried out and a Tory government took zero action on the recommendations but hooray a South African born egotist with a clear agenda is now using the lack of action as a way to spread his extremist cult to the U.K. so we should be DELIGHTED he’s trying to bring down a Labour government to replace it with…the same cabal who did nothing about this issue you care you so much about.

Social media has decimated the ability to think critically in this country.

JHound · 03/01/2025 11:13

PandoraSox · 03/01/2025 11:06

ETA: sorry, I realised after posting you were talking about Musk not Starmer! Will leave my post up though as it is informative.

If he was he would have spoke up when the previous government declined the call for a national enquiry

There was a national inquiry. This was the previous government's response to its recommendations:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/child-sexual-exploitation-by-organised-networks-report-government-response/child-sexual-exploitation-by-organised-networks-report-by-the-independent-inquiry-into-child-sexual-abuse-iicsa-government-response-accessible-ver

Edited

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/kemi-badenoch-calls-for-long-overdue-national-inquiry-into-uk-grooming-scandal-13282797

However, Ms Badenoch faced criticism on social media by Sammy Woodhouse, a survivor of sexual abuse in Rotherham, who said: "I've met with your party for 12 years about this when you were in power. I asked for an inquiry into every town and city, none of you cared. Now you need the vote you want to speak on it?"

And Reform UK leader Nigel Farage said: "Talk is cheap. The Conservatives had 14 years in government to launch an inquiry.
"The establishment has failed the victims of grooming gangs on every level."

Although this begs the question: if there was previously a National inquiry - what the hell is Apartheid Clyde banging on about now?

Kemi Badenoch calls for 'long overdue' national inquiry into UK grooming scandal

The Tory leader's call comes after government minister Jess Phillips was criticised for refusing to carry out a national inquiry into child sexual exploitation in Oldham.

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/kemi-badenoch-calls-for-long-overdue-national-inquiry-into-uk-grooming-scandal-13282797

PandoraSox · 03/01/2025 11:13

Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 11:12

Well the inquiry wasn't much good was it. Changes need to be implemented so it is time to reopen the inquiry to ensure nothing like this ever happens again.

It recommended changes which the then government largely ignored.

Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 11:14

poetryandwine · 03/01/2025 11:10

@Chainzreaction appears to be making her first post with the start of this thread. What a surprise!

Many good points about EM here. I will just add that AfD, the German political party he supports, are not merely right wing. They are classified as ‘probable extremists’ by the German government and subject to ongoing, secret surveillance. They are isolationist, except that they favour closer ties with Russia. Etc.

This is the man now calling for the dissolution of Parliament

No I've been here for years. Just fancied a name change for the new year!

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JHound · 03/01/2025 11:14

Over40Overdating · 03/01/2025 11:13

This thread is a masterclass in how people like Musk sway elections. The proud lack of knowledge on display about an issue so many claim to care so deeply about.

An enquiry has been carried out and a Tory government took zero action on the recommendations but hooray a South African born egotist with a clear agenda is now using the lack of action as a way to spread his extremist cult to the U.K. so we should be DELIGHTED he’s trying to bring down a Labour government to replace it with…the same cabal who did nothing about this issue you care you so much about.

Social media has decimated the ability to think critically in this country.

The lack of critical thinking and its replacement with emotional thinking is a worry given so many of those people have the vote.

cardibach · 03/01/2025 11:14

Marchitectmummy · 03/01/2025 10:22

Why is that the important part in this for you, do you live in the UK? Do you find this whole cover up from the government outrageous? If you do, focus on that.

As a mother of 5 girls I am very worried about this, its not the first time and it needs to be in the public eye however it is put there.

There’s no cover up from t(e government. There’s been a wide ranging report which was published only 2 years ago. Stop believing what right wing foreigners (and home grown nutters) tell you.

caramac04 · 03/01/2025 11:15

I’m not a fan of Elon Musk but good on him for highlighting the lack of care for girls and investigation/punishment for the rape gangs.
How can our daughters mean so little to politicians?
Why ?

Over40Overdating · 03/01/2025 11:15

Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 11:12

Well the inquiry wasn't much good was it. Changes need to be implemented so it is time to reopen the inquiry to ensure nothing like this ever happens again.

@Chainzreaction The tories could have enacted the changes recommended after the enquiry and did nothing. Why didn’t you care then? Why do you only care now that an election-interfering drug addict is shouting about dissolving a Labour government?

MilitantFawcett · 03/01/2025 11:15

Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 11:09

Well this has been a huge failure on the part of the UK government & I for one have no confidence in them.

But which govt op? The one that ALREADY HELD AN INQUIRY AND IGNORED THE RECOMMENDATIONS?

I’m stepping away from this now as I don’t believe you’re posting in good faith - first time poster, ignoring factual corrections and ignorant of the history of these cases. I call bot or journo.

DaniMontyRae · 03/01/2025 11:15

Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 11:12

Well the inquiry wasn't much good was it. Changes need to be implemented so it is time to reopen the inquiry to ensure nothing like this ever happens again.

Oh ffs. Can't tell if you are a far right bot or just genuinely thick. There is no need to reopen an inquiry in order to implement its recommendations. If anything, your idea would just severely slow down the implementation.

Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 11:16

cardibach · 03/01/2025 11:14

There’s no cover up from t(e government. There’s been a wide ranging report which was published only 2 years ago. Stop believing what right wing foreigners (and home grown nutters) tell you.

How did the police react in the very first instance ? How did the media report it?

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PlopSofa · 03/01/2025 11:16

What were the recommendations and why were none of them implemented? Cost? Money?

PandoraSox · 03/01/2025 11:16

Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 11:14

No I've been here for years. Just fancied a name change for the new year!

In order to post a whole load of inflammatory misinformation and to big up Musk? I would have more respect for you if you had posted under a more well used user name.

cardibach · 03/01/2025 11:17

Firealarm1414 · 03/01/2025 10:27

People have been raising it for years now and were labeled as...you guessed it "right wing loons". What a fucking crock of shit when these girls are being raped and everyone knows it, but no matter who calls attention to it, they are derided. If I recall correctly one of the victims was even arrested for a hate crime not too long ago for speaking out. But yes, Elon Musk is the problem 🙄

They were dead for a while and that was terrible. Now they aren’t. The 9nes in the frame have been prosecuted. There’s been a report following a wide ranging investigation. Those ‘speaking out’ now are either ignorant or stirring or both.

BrickRedLipstick · 03/01/2025 11:17

JHound · 03/01/2025 11:14

The lack of critical thinking and its replacement with emotional thinking is a worry given so many of those people have the vote.

Critical thinking clearly only matters to you when you agree with the conclusions. What worries me more is ignorance of the facts. It is a matter of fact, on public record there was torture and yet people are trying to suggest this didn’t happen. It is a matter of fact again on public record there were large-scale cover ups. I suggest some people should Google Maggie Oliver. That would be a good start.

Mrsmounjaro · 03/01/2025 11:18

Please can everybody stop calling them asian grooming gangs. They were pakistani muslim rape gangs specifically targeting poor white girls 🤬 also this map is very interesting

Aibu to be very happy Elon Musk is putting so much pressure on Stamer over the grooming gang tragedies?
JHound · 03/01/2025 11:18

BrickRedLipstick · 03/01/2025 11:17

Critical thinking clearly only matters to you when you agree with the conclusions. What worries me more is ignorance of the facts. It is a matter of fact, on public record there was torture and yet people are trying to suggest this didn’t happen. It is a matter of fact again on public record there were large-scale cover ups. I suggest some people should Google Maggie Oliver. That would be a good start.

^^ See exhibit A.

Sasskitty · 03/01/2025 11:18

Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 11:12

Well the inquiry wasn't much good was it. Changes need to be implemented so it is time to reopen the inquiry to ensure nothing like this ever happens again.

The enquiry that took place, gave recommendations for action that needs to be taken.

So Starmer al should be putting resource and effort into implementing the critical recommendations (rather - ensuring this is happening. And providing visibility of this). So this is not allowed to happen again.

Not sure why an American billionaire is getting involved. Though if he adds sunlight to the issue is that a bad thing.

PandoraSox · 03/01/2025 11:19

Mrsmounjaro · 03/01/2025 11:18

Please can everybody stop calling them asian grooming gangs. They were pakistani muslim rape gangs specifically targeting poor white girls 🤬 also this map is very interesting

Do you have a link for that map, please?

BrickRedLipstick · 03/01/2025 11:20

JHound · 03/01/2025 11:18

^^ See exhibit A.

Nice try.

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