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Son has just told us he is non binary

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Chipshopninja · 02/01/2025 19:31

13 years old

Wants us to use they/them

He came out as Bi a a couple of years ago and I was fine with that but this has really hit me hard

I'm terrified that this is going to lead to hormones and surgery.

Don't know why I'm posting tbh but feeling crappy because I didn't handle it well. I cried.

I can't call him my son anymore

He's my only child

Has anyone else been through this?

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celticprincess · 07/01/2025 21:17

Kalalily · 07/01/2025 12:32

I think the protected nature of trans is part of the appeal for neurodivergent teens. They already feel disconnected from their bodies and struggle socially so they may as well belong to a welcoming group with legal protection. I’m sure I have over simplified this but I hope it gets across my point.

Being autistic is also a protected characteristic so why seek out another??

Lostcat · 07/01/2025 21:19

CrowleyKitten · 07/01/2025 21:16

because I openly support trans and nonbinary people and their rights. I often get one of the "we can always tell" crowd, telling me "you don't pass" and "whatever, dude, you'll always be a man" and even "if you owned a mirror you'd know you were a man"

that particular absolute charmer of a human being, I offered to send him the contents of my mooncup, as I was having a really clotty bleed at the time. funnily enough, he didn't take me up on that.

Awful. I’m sorry you’ve had to deal with that.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/01/2025 21:23

Being autistic is also a protected characteristic so why seek out another??

I think maybe they're searching for an overarching explanation of why they feel they do about their sex, and the label seems to appeal.

Delphinium20 · 07/01/2025 21:39

There's that old adage, "You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Trying to go through life with the goal of tricking people or fooling people seems both sad and narcissistic.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/01/2025 21:47

YY @Delphinium20

JustAnotherDadOf2 · 07/01/2025 22:06

JustCrow · 04/01/2025 22:51

Then you step in and reiterate that regardless of how he feels, he IS a boy and in our English language, the pronouns for boys is he/him/his etc.

In the same way that you’d point out that a child who really feels he’s a wombat, isn’t in fact a wombat but a human being.

Why does this stuff get indulged??

I can't begin to describe how bored I am by this ridiculous self-indulgent narcissistic navel gazing bollocks. People are people, labels are nonsense that are used by SJW fuckwits, but means absolutely nothing. It's a 1st world problem for people with nothing better to worry about. Please stop using labels to prove how special you are, Ridiculous! Live and let live. How do i unsubscribe?

CrowleyKitten · 07/01/2025 22:13

Lostcat · 07/01/2025 21:19

Awful. I’m sorry you’ve had to deal with that.

didn't bother me that much. I thought it was funny.
I don't think being trans is something to be ashamed of, so some idiot thinking I'm trans didn't offend me. I just thought it was funny, because they're always so insistent "we can always tell"

Kalalily · 07/01/2025 22:17

celticprincess · 07/01/2025 21:17

Being autistic is also a protected characteristic so why seek out another??

I think this applies to those who would have previously been diagnosed with Asperger’s and who probably have a late diagnosis or have not been diagnosed.
I think it’s a very complex subject and there is probably an element of control that play as well, similar to eating disorders.

Chipshopninja · 07/01/2025 22:57

The thread is about to fill up so thanks to those who have tried to help

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Dandelionsarefree · 07/01/2025 23:12

CrowleyKitten · 07/01/2025 21:16

because I openly support trans and nonbinary people and their rights. I often get one of the "we can always tell" crowd, telling me "you don't pass" and "whatever, dude, you'll always be a man" and even "if you owned a mirror you'd know you were a man"

that particular absolute charmer of a human being, I offered to send him the contents of my mooncup, as I was having a really clotty bleed at the time. funnily enough, he didn't take me up on that.

I don't think you understand. We are not the intolerant people.
There is a gay male in my small team, he is very sound and great collegue, respected by everyone. I do not think anyone here is homophobic, we all respect and understabd different sexual preferences.

While i would never tell any trans man or woman he/ she isnt what they are pretend to be (even if I believe so), I don't respect is the imposition from the trans ideology. To make us use "preferred pronouns" that imply someone is sexless or a mix of sexes or fluid or whatever nonsense? To get to the point that we are supposed to do this even with not fully formed adults by teachers and parents? To make us having to add our "pronoums" underneath our job title in our work emails?

You might think you are an oppressed minority when in reality you are imposing on everyone else. Please think about it.

AlexandraLeaving · 07/01/2025 23:17

Chipshopninja · 07/01/2025 22:57

The thread is about to fill up so thanks to those who have tried to help

Good luck OP. I think, amidst all the debate, there is a lot of goodwill for you and your son. You’ll be in my thoughts.

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 08/01/2025 01:48

OP.
Your son felt safe enough to share with you.

Hang on to that.

That's the most important thing at the end of they day.

Aibuquestiononrelationship · 08/01/2025 03:41

Good luck.@Chipshopninja

Delphinium20 · 08/01/2025 03:42

Best of luck, OP. You're a good mom

Cailin66 · 08/01/2025 07:22

Lostcat · 07/01/2025 09:07

So called "non binary people" simply have a severe case of main character syndrome.

Does this sound judgemental and transphobic to anyone?

Yawn. There isn’t a violin small enough for you.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/01/2025 08:41

Good luck and hang on in there @Chipshopninja Flowers

Politygal · 08/01/2025 10:17

Chipshopninja · 02/01/2025 19:36

Too late for the "OK what's for dinner" response. Excellent idea but I've already messed that bit up.

Unfortunately school have been going along with this for months and not told us.

School has enabled this? Give them a copy of the Cass report and make it quite clear to the Head and the staff that this has to stop. Remind them about safeguarding. Tell them there is to be no talk of allowing him into girls spaces or sports. That would be very wrong. And good luck.

Politygal · 08/01/2025 10:19

Chipshopninja · 02/01/2025 19:43

I like the we are all non binary thing. I may try and go with that.

It's the pronouns bit I'm really struggling with. Wants to be referred to as they/them. If I call him my son it upsets him. I've already told him I'm going into it with his extended family and not to expect them to go along with it

He's your son and should be proud of that.

PixieLaLar · 08/01/2025 15:43

Lostcat · 07/01/2025 09:07

So called "non binary people" simply have a severe case of main character syndrome.

Does this sound judgemental and transphobic to anyone?

No because “non binary” isn’t a thing.

It’s called mental health problems which should be treated as such not pandered to.

You wouldn’t agree to call an anorexic ‘fat’ because that’s their chosen pronoun. So no let’s not agree to this ridiculous nonsense.

Enough4me · 08/01/2025 16:43

Non binary as a label doesn't make sense anymore than binary does. If I am binary do I pick the number 0 or 1?

I have a sex, like everyone else and I don't follow stereotypes.

theamooberry · 08/01/2025 16:45

BodyKeepingScore · 07/01/2025 19:06

@theamooberry and why is making a child angry the worst thing in the world? When we tell our toddlers no more ice cream as it's bad for them, we don't give in to their demands for more. When older teens get "angry" at not being allowed to stay out until all hours or drink underage, we don't give in then either for the sake of their welfare. Why is smartphone use any different?

not the worst thing in the world, just makes him more likely to be rebellious and keep doing it which from what I understand is not the objective. Smartphone use is different from alcohol because there is a near certainty the child is going to get a phone again eventually. It does depend on his personality though and I suppose I was speaking from my perspective

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/01/2025 16:46

As the amusing meme says "non binary" people have created a binary, between binary and non binary people. How binary.

Aibuquestiononrelationship · 08/01/2025 17:06

Allegedly "Non-binary people thus grapple with deciding whether to masculinize or feminize themselves and what such changes might mean for their gender identities.".

Why the grapple, why the need to stick to outdated masculine or feminine stereotyping. Why not just be you, wear what you want be who you want to be without a silly label. Is it the need to feel 'special' an ego thing. We are all unique and special.

PS I am not cis and will never be told to use that I am just me, a biological woman. The ideology has and is damaging children and will do if people allow it to. Don't allow it to.

fanaticalfairy · 08/01/2025 17:19

I wait in glee for the day out school puts all the trans girls in one room for residential trip ... It's going to happen soon... There's trip coming up with 3 of them, and they absolutely will be roomed together (they're friends and in same year)

And I'm going to wait for the kids to complain ... because they will ( they're the type to ...)

I will be very excited to say, but you're with girls

. So what's the problem ?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/01/2025 17:20

Aibuquestiononrelationship · 08/01/2025 17:06

Allegedly "Non-binary people thus grapple with deciding whether to masculinize or feminize themselves and what such changes might mean for their gender identities.".

Why the grapple, why the need to stick to outdated masculine or feminine stereotyping. Why not just be you, wear what you want be who you want to be without a silly label. Is it the need to feel 'special' an ego thing. We are all unique and special.

PS I am not cis and will never be told to use that I am just me, a biological woman. The ideology has and is damaging children and will do if people allow it to. Don't allow it to.

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Great post.

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