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Should she replace it? Part 3

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Langarg · 02/01/2025 19:09

I can’t believe we have a part 3 🤣 this has provided some lighthearted entertainment at a time where I’m feeling really let down by someone I considered a good friend. So thank you! I have posted an update on thread 2, will post it here also.

I have sent the following text message ‘Having reflected on what you have said, how the airwrap was lost/broken or otherwise is irrelevant. I considered asking you for pictures of the broken airwrap or asking to speak to your sister to ask her what happened but it will get us nowhere. All that matters is I am down a Dyson airwrap and I want a new replacement. You’ll need to either transfer me the £399 tonight to pay for this or purchase it yourself from boots and send me the email receipt this evening. You can then sort out with your sister whether she is going to contribute to the cost of it. We can then put this behind us’

I have no interest in maintaining the friendship after this for obvious reasons. I am worried that she’s seen the thread (how can she not have 🤣) and knows this fine well so will have no intention of replacing it sadly.

I don’t think I’ll ever get the truth (was there even a wedding at this rate?! 🤣) all that matters to me now is getting a replacement airwrap!!!!

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Ilovecakey · 03/01/2025 16:07

Liquid sugar in a gas tank
Have fun replacing the engine karen

(Not my idea seen it somewhere else)

lovemetomybones · 03/01/2025 16:07

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I agree with this if it's a verbal contract I don't see how any court would accept one person's opinion over another.

As to the person who said the Dyson system of refurbished one wouldn't work, it definitely would! It's not a warranty or insurance. You don't need to give a detailed reason of how it became broken. You simply say that it won't switch on. They then will run through some ways to try to get it working and if it won't, then you have the option of a refurbished one. They take yours, fix it and resell it.

As I said earlier an excellent service and probably the cheapest way to fix this situation.

waitingforrugbytofinish · 03/01/2025 16:07

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Didimum · 03/01/2025 16:09

HowdyDoody2025 · 03/01/2025 14:11

Oh - were you serious?!!

I thought you were doing the "cancel the cheque" joke. I didnt think after 3 threads and 1000s of posts you would think that no-one would have suggested that 100s of times

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Snark isn’t necessary to anyone not willing or able to read three threads worth of mundane speculative posts.

SerendipityJane · 03/01/2025 16:11

If the OP is serious about the legal route, a fresh posting in "Legal Matters" might be advised.

waitingforrugbytofinish · 03/01/2025 16:24

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AngelicKaty · 03/01/2025 16:28

Ilovecakey · 03/01/2025 16:02

No but she could take it out on their property which was also suggested. Then she would see how it feels to have your property damaged and be out if pocket. I think I honestly would do this

I can't agree with you I'm afraid. 1. Because I'm law-abiding, and 2. Because the UK is one of the most surveiiled countries in the world - the chances of you not being caught in the act on CCTV is slim (particularly with so many Ring doorbells around! 😂)
In any case, I'm a firm believer in "revenge is a dish best served cold" and using the law to punish her. I certainly wouldn't want to risk getting a criminal record to pay back the CF -because then she'd have the last laugh!

SauvignonBlanche · 03/01/2025 16:36

Didimum · 03/01/2025 16:09

Snark isn’t necessary to anyone not willing or able to read three threads worth of mundane speculative posts.

No one needs to trawl through pages and pages of posts when they can just see all of the OPs at the click of a button.
If you CBA to do that, or don’t have time to do so then posters should maybe just consider keeping their thoughts to themselves.

FluffyJawsOfDoom · 03/01/2025 16:37

Langarg · 03/01/2025 12:41

Oh I missed your previous comment regarding this, thank you I will look in to this!

@imhalflistening we have been friends for around 15 years

If you have the text messages as proof of what happened, I start considering small claims court 😅

waitingforrugbytofinish · 03/01/2025 16:38

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Didimum · 03/01/2025 16:42

SauvignonBlanche · 03/01/2025 16:36

No one needs to trawl through pages and pages of posts when they can just see all of the OPs at the click of a button.
If you CBA to do that, or don’t have time to do so then posters should maybe just consider keeping their thoughts to themselves.

If that were the case then these threads would quickly just become one – every page is almost a carbon copy of the one before. Call the police, small claims, home insurance, are you OP’s CF friend?, have you checked the hotel carpets? contact the DH, contact the sister, rinse and repeat.

I’m enjoying the saga as much as the next person, but let’s not pretend it all isn’t extremely repetitive.

waitingforrugbytofinish · 03/01/2025 16:44

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AngelicKaty · 03/01/2025 16:46

lovemetomybones · 03/01/2025 16:07

I agree with this if it's a verbal contract I don't see how any court would accept one person's opinion over another.

As to the person who said the Dyson system of refurbished one wouldn't work, it definitely would! It's not a warranty or insurance. You don't need to give a detailed reason of how it became broken. You simply say that it won't switch on. They then will run through some ways to try to get it working and if it won't, then you have the option of a refurbished one. They take yours, fix it and resell it.

As I said earlier an excellent service and probably the cheapest way to fix this situation.

OP has evidence of the loan agreement in texts between her and CF - there is no need for the court to rely on "opinion".

and @waitingforrugbytofinish
The loan was for a fixed period (CF's wedding) so the return date is implicit - this was clearly not an open-ended loan. And there was no requirement for OP to say to CF "And if you don't return it by * this is going to happen". OP's claim for damages is on the grounds that she's been deprived of her property and its use indefinitely (since CF has told her she lent it to her sister who has broken it). CF has to make OP whole again by either replacing the original AirWrap in full working order or paying for a like-for-like replacement.

Therealjudgejudy · 03/01/2025 16:47

Cant believe some CF's on this thread are defending the tea leaf of a friend!

Team op all the way. Hope this gets resolved

Pickledpoppetpickle · 03/01/2025 17:32

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 03/01/2025 12:34

I too would like @kkloo and @Pickledpoppetpickle to read this excellent summary by @HootyMcBoobs, and then tell us how they would have dealt with this situation.

Oh - and I'd like to know how, exactly, @Pickledpoppetpickle thinks @Langarg's 'friend' has 'struggled to put things right' - was it by staying silent in the hopes it would all be forgotten, lying about what happened (potentially causing serious trouble for hotel employees), lying about calling the hotel, lying about going to the hotel, trying to fob off the OP with a cheap, second hand, inferior replacement or trying to guilt trip her? Where is there any apparent effort even the tiniest one - to put things right??

OP says this is a friend of 15 years. Presumably there is mutual respect and a level of affection. It depends where the lies are coming from - feeling embarrassed because it has been broken is my assumption (I admit I could be wrong) so attempts at covering it up till she could pay for a replacement seems likely. I wouldn’t have gone online and been gleeful at the support received knowing that my friend used the same forum. I mean, she’s been called every name under the sun - cunt, thief, cheeky fucker - and way more. On top of that, OP has cast aspersions over the size of this woman’s wedding (why?). Seems a deliberate attempt to belittle and humiliate.

Personally, I would have asked for a replacement by X date or asked if a payment plan was required. Not everyone can find that kind of cash after a wedding, Xmas and the general cost of living. I would have quietly expressed my disdain at being lied to when I was open to sorting it and a payment plan. If the money wasn’t forthcoming, I would have backed away from the friendship and if any member of our mutual friendship group queried that, I would have factually explained why. There was no need for all this. No, that wouldn’t have got me my item back or a replacement, but up till now, this heavy-handed approach doesn’t seem to have worked either. Confused

catlover123456789 · 03/01/2025 17:37

My guess is the truth lies somewhere in the middle. I expect the bride and her sister were getting ready together on the morning of the wedding and someone spilled a drink on it. Then one or both agreed to lie and say it had been lost. It may in fact only need the fuse replacing, the friend should not only buy a new one but return the "broken" one.

Boots probably withdrew the offer when half of mumsnet bought an airwrap on sale!

OP you may have to just buy your own so you can at least dry your hair and then wait to see if you are reimbursed. However a person who has someone else pay half of their 4 person wedding (a registry, a dress, two rings and a celebration meal) probably hasn't got two pennies to rub together so good luck with that.

user1485851222 · 03/01/2025 17:41

I can't find should she replace it part 2... so my question are

Do we now know it wasn't left at the wedding hotel?

Has she admitted it has been broken?

LIZS · 03/01/2025 17:42

user1485851222 · 03/01/2025 17:41

I can't find should she replace it part 2... so my question are

Do we now know it wasn't left at the wedding hotel?

Has she admitted it has been broken?

"Friend" has admittedshe loaned it to her sister who broke it, apparently. So the left at hotel story was untrue.

bigkahunaburger · 03/01/2025 17:43

Pickledpoppetpickle · 03/01/2025 17:32

OP says this is a friend of 15 years. Presumably there is mutual respect and a level of affection. It depends where the lies are coming from - feeling embarrassed because it has been broken is my assumption (I admit I could be wrong) so attempts at covering it up till she could pay for a replacement seems likely. I wouldn’t have gone online and been gleeful at the support received knowing that my friend used the same forum. I mean, she’s been called every name under the sun - cunt, thief, cheeky fucker - and way more. On top of that, OP has cast aspersions over the size of this woman’s wedding (why?). Seems a deliberate attempt to belittle and humiliate.

Personally, I would have asked for a replacement by X date or asked if a payment plan was required. Not everyone can find that kind of cash after a wedding, Xmas and the general cost of living. I would have quietly expressed my disdain at being lied to when I was open to sorting it and a payment plan. If the money wasn’t forthcoming, I would have backed away from the friendship and if any member of our mutual friendship group queried that, I would have factually explained why. There was no need for all this. No, that wouldn’t have got me my item back or a replacement, but up till now, this heavy-handed approach doesn’t seem to have worked either. Confused

Whats heavy-handed about it? She hasnt gone round there all guns blazing, or screaming down the phone. Shes asked where it is, been given a load of cock and bull, and then said I want it replacing by last night. Then shes been ignored. So how has she been in any way heavy-handed? Are you saying you wouldnt have even asked for it back? Just grumbled under your breath and accepted that?? You literally say here you would have asked for a replacement with a deadline - which is what OP did - that or the money. I dont see what you are suggesting you would do is any different to what OP has done up until now.

Is it the mere fact she came on AIBU to gain support/perspective/advice? Its literally what its for. I just do not understand your perspective at all.

Sceptical123 · 03/01/2025 17:44

NotISaidTheCat · 03/01/2025 13:07

From OP's first thread:

"So not to drip feed this friend has form for taking advantage of my generosity (always ‘forgetting’ to transfer money if we agree to go halves on the bill, accepting lifts and never returning the favour etc) and also for being forgetful (leaving a gift I got her on the bus nearly immediately after I gave her it). I really should have known better than to lend it out if I’m honest!"

This present might also have been sold or re-gifted. She told OP she forgot it to explain its absence

user1485851222 · 03/01/2025 17:46

Yeahhhhhhh I found part 2

MumMRM · 03/01/2025 17:48

How can I find part 2? X

Havinganamechange · 03/01/2025 17:49

Is this something you could put a claim into small claims court for? There will be an application fee but if you were successful, she would have to pay that also.

AngelicKaty · 03/01/2025 17:50

@Langarg Hi OP! Yesterday, at 17:54, you posted CF had said "that she would be in touch no later than tomorrow morning with a resolution." You subsequently posted that you sent her a text later yesterday evening giving her the options you would accept for resolution and another this morning telling her about the offer on at Boots. Has she replied to you at all today? Did she not come back to you this morning, as she promised?
If you've heard nothing, I think it's safe to say she's ghosting you and has no intention of contacting you again, much less making this situation right. In which case, you need to decide if you're going to initiate legal action or accept she's mugged you off (again) and do nothing. I know what I'd do - and it wouldn't be the latter.

StarkleLittleTwink · 03/01/2025 17:54

She should have replaced your air wrap at the outset. I would never forgive her now…..

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