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Should she replace it? Part 3

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Langarg · 02/01/2025 19:09

I can’t believe we have a part 3 🤣 this has provided some lighthearted entertainment at a time where I’m feeling really let down by someone I considered a good friend. So thank you! I have posted an update on thread 2, will post it here also.

I have sent the following text message ‘Having reflected on what you have said, how the airwrap was lost/broken or otherwise is irrelevant. I considered asking you for pictures of the broken airwrap or asking to speak to your sister to ask her what happened but it will get us nowhere. All that matters is I am down a Dyson airwrap and I want a new replacement. You’ll need to either transfer me the £399 tonight to pay for this or purchase it yourself from boots and send me the email receipt this evening. You can then sort out with your sister whether she is going to contribute to the cost of it. We can then put this behind us’

I have no interest in maintaining the friendship after this for obvious reasons. I am worried that she’s seen the thread (how can she not have 🤣) and knows this fine well so will have no intention of replacing it sadly.

I don’t think I’ll ever get the truth (was there even a wedding at this rate?! 🤣) all that matters to me now is getting a replacement airwrap!!!!

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SpringIscomingalso · 03/01/2025 14:40

I don't find any threads like that entertaining ...it is actually exhausting reading because up till this point the object should be given back, broken or whole

AngelicKaty · 03/01/2025 14:41

Glockenspock · 03/01/2025 13:36

Any CCJ would be removed provided the debt is paid within 30 days of the judgement. This encourages rapid settlement.

For OP:

https://www.gov.uk/make-court-claim-for-money

Edited

Indeed. Just another reason why OP should not only send an LBA, but actually follow through with a claim. She has everything to gain and CF has everything to lose. 😊

LookItsMeAgain · 03/01/2025 14:42

Do you know her sister @Langarg? Could you contact the sister to at least try to find out if that part of the story you're being spun is correct?

To answer any of the suggestions -

  1. Yes, the CF may have broken the device
  2. Yes, the CF may have loaned the device to the sister and the sister broke it
  3. Yes, the CF may have broken the device but has decided to further fabricate a story involving her sister by saying the sister broke it
  4. Yes, the CF lied about it being stolen from or left behind in the hotel (this could have had massive ramifications for hotel employees if the OP had decided to contact the police about it)
  5. Yes, the CF does have a CREDIT CARD and doesn't need to use Klarna or any alternatives but has this far refused to purchase a replacement for the OP using said credit card

NO - the CF clearly hasn't an ounce of morals because if they did, this wouldn't have dragged into 2025 or for 3 (possibly 4) threads!

AngelicKaty · 03/01/2025 14:58

bigkahunaburger · 03/01/2025 14:34

Really? That does make sense because you often see on those bailiff programs, if the person is married but the debt is in one persons name and the car in the other they cant take the car if it is confirmed it is theirs.

Bummer for the OP if CF doesnt work.

It's not the end of the world if the CF doesn't work - the court making an attachment of earnings order is just one way to recover the money. If the CF owns assets (like a car) the EAs can seize them to "persuade" the CF to pay up. 😉

Joelle84 · 03/01/2025 15:02

How embarrassing and what would the curtain twitching neighbours think if EAs turn up at the door. Wont take long for Paul Bohil/Steve Pinner (aka cant pay we”ll take it away) to put a wheel clamp on the car…

Longtimelurkerfinallyposts · 03/01/2025 15:10

AngelicKaty · 03/01/2025 14:30

"Can I ask does she have a job? A car not on finance? Does her DH? (although someone else said married people arent liable not sure if thats true)." I said it and it is true. For example, if your spouse enters into a contract, say a loan agreement, in their sole name, that does not make their spouse liable for the repayments just because they're married. In this case, OP lent the AirWrap to CF, not CF's DH, so OP has no course of action against him.

but if she addresses the LBA to the pair of them, and makes it clear in her claim that she lent the airwrap to the couple for their wedding, the court could make a judgment against both of them equally....
there is no written loan agreement in place here, and nothing to 'prove' that it wasn't lent to the couple jointly.

SailingOnAWave · 03/01/2025 15:24

What doesn't make sense, if she said it was broken with water falling on it, but surely these devices can cope with "wetness" anyway?

Does the item even exist anymore? Why haven't they returned it broken? You might be able to get the company to fix it?

Glockenspock · 03/01/2025 15:25

AngelicKaty · 03/01/2025 14:41

Indeed. Just another reason why OP should not only send an LBA, but actually follow through with a claim. She has everything to gain and CF has everything to lose. 😊

This may seem bizarre but I actually see it as a gain for CF too.

Yes, she'll lose the hairdryer she's pinched but by OP pressing ahead for a fair & honest outcome, CF will discover the error of her ways.

That will be character building for CF.

It may also stop her from carrying on merrily down the path of CF'ery that she's currently on. That path frequently ends with the chancer ripping off the wrong person i.e. one who doesn't react kindly to being wronged & prefers to unleash vengeance against the body or property of the wrong doer.

Infinitely more useful to CF, OP & the wider world that has to deal with CF's BS going forward than all the stolen good hair days will ever be!

SailingOnAWave · 03/01/2025 15:25

Oh and the boots offer has stopped!

Lavenderfarmcottage · 03/01/2025 15:29

I can’t help but wonder if this is why the class system exists in the UK and is so strongly adhered to. It ensures that we loan items that are primark to our primark friends, Dyson to our Dyson friends, Gucci to our Gucci friends & that those people can afford to replace them.

Sorry OP - two wines and I’m making this sociological.

The air wrap is sold or stolen. The wine on Dyson story is horse poo. Forgetting the Dyson can’t be true because it was replaced by the wine on Dyson story. Therefore she sold it to pay for the hotel or her dress.

i could be wrong - sorry if i am and you’re reading - but this is my best guess.

I emailed Dyson media and I’m surprised they’ve not offered you a new one. They’re gotten amazing publicity. The world is so incredibly cheap - not just friends.

Chocbuttonsandredwine · 03/01/2025 15:33

apologies wrong thread

amoreoamicizia · 03/01/2025 15:36

I emailed Dyson media and I’m surprised they’ve not offered you a new one.

I must admit I had to Google and see what all the fuss was about- and there's probably thousands of us! 😁

AngelicKaty · 03/01/2025 15:38

Longtimelurkerfinallyposts · 03/01/2025 15:10

but if she addresses the LBA to the pair of them, and makes it clear in her claim that she lent the airwrap to the couple for their wedding, the court could make a judgment against both of them equally....
there is no written loan agreement in place here, and nothing to 'prove' that it wasn't lent to the couple jointly.

I'm sorry but that's a ridiculous proposition.

  1. You can't just join someone in an action, without having grounds, by simply adding their name to the LBA or claim form.
  2. OP has evidence of the loan to CF, in the form of texts between them. She has no such evidence of CF's DH wanting to borrow the AirWrap and claiming otherwise is likely to get her claim dismissed.
blackpooolrock · 03/01/2025 15:43

i would tell her your going down the small claims court route if she doesnt send the money over in 24hrs. Send her a link to the small claims court process and she what she does. If you get the money back block her instantly.

CautiousLurker01 · 03/01/2025 15:45

lovemetomybones · 03/01/2025 13:54

It really is a good deal, go to Dyson customer services and ring them, you need their serial number and the item. They try ver the phone to fix it with you there. If they can't for £99 (that's for straighteners l, I am sure it's similar for airwraps) they arrange a courier to swap them with a refurbished model.

It is an excellent little known service.

But the key is to get your airwrap back! Which might not be easy to do.

I also on a side note would not keep this situation from your mutual friends, I think they need to be aware of her thieving nature! Also I would not be surprised if she isn't already dragging your name through the mud- 'oh she ruined my wedding' etc etc.

Am not convinced they can repair a pair that someone has poured wine on, though? The repair will be about accidental damage in the normal usage of them or where there is an unexplained fault. I think they’d laugh if OP contacted them on this.

AngelicKaty · 03/01/2025 15:53

Glockenspock · 03/01/2025 15:25

This may seem bizarre but I actually see it as a gain for CF too.

Yes, she'll lose the hairdryer she's pinched but by OP pressing ahead for a fair & honest outcome, CF will discover the error of her ways.

That will be character building for CF.

It may also stop her from carrying on merrily down the path of CF'ery that she's currently on. That path frequently ends with the chancer ripping off the wrong person i.e. one who doesn't react kindly to being wronged & prefers to unleash vengeance against the body or property of the wrong doer.

Infinitely more useful to CF, OP & the wider world that has to deal with CF's BS going forward than all the stolen good hair days will ever be!

I'd love to share you optimism - but I don't. OP has told us she's known the CF for 15 years and they have previous for this type of behaviour. I don't think they have any character to build on.
(Funnily enough, I think the one thing CF would learn from is if one of their victims kicked them into the other end of next week, but I don't advocate violence and OP plainly isn't that type of person! 😂)

Lavenderfarmcottage · 03/01/2025 15:54

Come on y’all that Dyson is on the back of a truck and being sold at a pawn shop in Germany right now. You all know it.

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Lavenderfarmcottage · 03/01/2025 15:56
robert de niro smoke GIF

Who your air wrap is probably with right now. Call it quits. Cut your loss.

Lavenderfarmcottage · 03/01/2025 15:57

^ also the same person you have to call if you ever have a hope of seeing it back.

CautiousLurker01 · 03/01/2025 15:58

Longtimelurkerfinallyposts · 03/01/2025 15:10

but if she addresses the LBA to the pair of them, and makes it clear in her claim that she lent the airwrap to the couple for their wedding, the court could make a judgment against both of them equally....
there is no written loan agreement in place here, and nothing to 'prove' that it wasn't lent to the couple jointly.

The text messages won’t confirm it was a joint loan (it wasn’t) - they will confirm OP leant it for the sole use of CF, who negligently allowed a 3rd party to use it (apparently), who then damaged it. CF’s DH is not implicated in any of this, other than to potentially give his new wife the money to recompense OP should he wished to because a CCJ would impact both of their credit ratings.

Joelle84 · 03/01/2025 16:00

few going on Vinted. Might be worth checking profiles of those selling the blue ones..

Ilovecakey · 03/01/2025 16:02

AngelicKaty · 03/01/2025 15:53

I'd love to share you optimism - but I don't. OP has told us she's known the CF for 15 years and they have previous for this type of behaviour. I don't think they have any character to build on.
(Funnily enough, I think the one thing CF would learn from is if one of their victims kicked them into the other end of next week, but I don't advocate violence and OP plainly isn't that type of person! 😂)

No but she could take it out on their property which was also suggested. Then she would see how it feels to have your property damaged and be out if pocket. I think I honestly would do this

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