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Should she replace it? Part 3

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Langarg · 02/01/2025 19:09

I can’t believe we have a part 3 🤣 this has provided some lighthearted entertainment at a time where I’m feeling really let down by someone I considered a good friend. So thank you! I have posted an update on thread 2, will post it here also.

I have sent the following text message ‘Having reflected on what you have said, how the airwrap was lost/broken or otherwise is irrelevant. I considered asking you for pictures of the broken airwrap or asking to speak to your sister to ask her what happened but it will get us nowhere. All that matters is I am down a Dyson airwrap and I want a new replacement. You’ll need to either transfer me the £399 tonight to pay for this or purchase it yourself from boots and send me the email receipt this evening. You can then sort out with your sister whether she is going to contribute to the cost of it. We can then put this behind us’

I have no interest in maintaining the friendship after this for obvious reasons. I am worried that she’s seen the thread (how can she not have 🤣) and knows this fine well so will have no intention of replacing it sadly.

I don’t think I’ll ever get the truth (was there even a wedding at this rate?! 🤣) all that matters to me now is getting a replacement airwrap!!!!

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SerendipityJane · 03/01/2025 10:00

WitchDancer · 03/01/2025 09:59

I don't suppose your household insurance (or her) would cover the cost of a replacement would it?

Why should the OP be out of pocket for the excess (and increased premium) ?

CautiousLurker01 · 03/01/2025 10:03

AngelicKaty · 03/01/2025 09:59

As I advised OP in thread 1 or 2 (can't remember which) if CF finally decides to do the decent thing and buy a replacement for her, OP should ask her to get a gift receipt with it which transfers full consumer rights from the purchaser to the gift recipient 😊

Had no idea about the consumer rights thing - always thought it was about allowing the giftee to exchange it if you’d messed up. So many times I’ve not bothered, but will make sure I do going forward (am thinking of the airfryer DH bought DSiL for Christmas 🤦🏽‍♀️)

AngelicKaty · 03/01/2025 10:06

Longtimelurkerfinallyposts · 02/01/2025 21:34

It doesn't sound like the CF has any intention of paying you back or returning the item she stole from you. You might as well start the small claim process tomorrow - you can do this online, and as they're married, they can be made jointly liable for your loss. Have you been in touch with her DH yet? It strikes me that he might be completely unaware of her lies/ attempts to blame him originally, and utterly mortifie to realise that he's just married such a dishonest untrustworthy CF.

They will have to pay the court fee (of £50) on top of the £500 the Airwrap cost you in the first place. If they don't then pay up, you can apply to send the bailiffs round to seize goods from their home, or get the funds taken from their earnings/ bank accounts, or put a charge on their house (if they have a mortgage/ own it). What a great start to married life for him!

Wrong. Being married to the CF does NOT make the DH liable for her actions. Also, before using MCOL, the correct process is for OP to write CF a "Letter Before Action" laying out the basis of her claim, the amount she's suing her for (cost of AirWrap, legal costs plus Statutory Interest at 8%) and drawing her attention to the Pre-action Protocols.

Curtainqueen · 03/01/2025 10:07

Langarg · 03/01/2025 09:10

Thank you for this! She still didn’t reply to my message. I have sent a further text message this morning telling her that the deal from Boots ends today and asked that she please either transfer me the £399 or order it and forward the confirmation email. I’ll await her response but I have a funny feeling I’m being ghosted!

This is exactly why you need to be prepared to back it up with small claims. Now she’s owned up
that will be her way of exonerating herself of any further responsibility.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 03/01/2025 10:08

I’d go down the small claims court route. Your friendship is over now.

ChimneyRock · 03/01/2025 10:10

Trouble is, the OP has now asked for £399 for the Boots offer and if it's not bought today, the price will revert to £500. There's no way the CF ex-friend will agree to pay that higher amount now she has £399 in her head (although I can't see her paying that either, to be honest).

Ellie1015 · 03/01/2025 10:11

Op you have been nothing but patient with friend. You have asserted yourself politely and it is not unreasonable to expect your airwrap replaced with new.

Your friend has been awful. Unacceptable to give it to sister and to lie/drag it out and cheeky to offer to pay up cost of second hand older replacement. Guilting you about wedding is the cherry on cake.

AlexisP90 · 03/01/2025 10:11

Don't drop this OP. If she ghosts you go down small claims route.

People like this really need to learn the lesson of decent human behaviour.

You lose,break, steal sell someone else's property you replace it.

I knew someone like this. Not with an item but money. They got away with it all too because people just kept letting it go.

Didn't learn their lesson until someone actually took it further.

whowhatwerewhy · 03/01/2025 10:13

I think I would go into bitch mode . I would do a huge group WhatsApp with all you mutual friends " hi all I lent CF my air wrap for her wedding, she then lent it to her sister who spit wine on it and broke it . I'm so sad she lied to me about leaving it behind at the hotel rather than tell the truth. But worst of all she's now not prepared to purchase me a new one or send me the money. Please can any of you reach out to her and tell her how unreasonable she's been. "

Eldermillennial2024 · 03/01/2025 10:19

VodkaCola · 03/01/2025 09:47

Because informing the other party is part of the process?

letting her know the next step is to issue proceedings may prompt her to pay

mumda · 03/01/2025 10:19

Langarg · 03/01/2025 09:10

Thank you for this! She still didn’t reply to my message. I have sent a further text message this morning telling her that the deal from Boots ends today and asked that she please either transfer me the £399 or order it and forward the confirmation email. I’ll await her response but I have a funny feeling I’m being ghosted!

She's being a rude cow on top of a dishonest one.

I would write a letter before action.
Very calmly stating the full price of the replacements as assuming you'll get one on sale is foolish.

I am sure the internet can help with the right wording.

AllEndeavour · 03/01/2025 10:21

Didimum · 03/01/2025 09:51

If the friend has read this, I’m also not surprised she isn’t replying to OP, as she knows it will end up on the internet.

Why would that matter? She is mentioned anonymously and her reputation has been entirely unaffected.

She owes OP and her refusal to reply to the last few messages with any indication of her plans to make this right is just as bad as her previous lies & guilt tripping

Snazzysausage · 03/01/2025 10:21

Honestly,just send a letter before action. I've done it twice and won both times, once for thousands.
There's templates online but just head your letter LETTER BEFORE ACTION.
Stick to the facts only, ie

Despite my many requests via message and phonecall,you have not returned my Dyson air wrap(insert model) nor replaced it with the identical model if you are unable to return the original airwrap I lent you on (date)
If this matter is not resolved to my satisfaction within 7 days from receipt of this letter,that is (insert date) I will have no option but to start proceedings against you for the cost of a replacement appliance.
Yours faithfully etc.
Send it signed for, allowing for the weekend when calculating the 7 day deadline.

Eldermillennial2024 · 03/01/2025 10:21

"CF friend as you still haven't sorted this and appear to be ignoring my messages, ill be issuing a claim against you tomorrow unless you send me £XX tonight"

I wouldn't even ask her to order it now as even if she sends you order confirmation she might not give you the airwrap and I would prefer to have the receipt etc.

Lexicarno · 03/01/2025 10:22

Has KKloo (CF) responded to this?

Lolapusht · 03/01/2025 10:24

Don’t know if someone has mentioned this, but if she buys it for you she’ll get the points!! CF will end up with money to spend on well being smellies 🤨

AngelicKaty · 03/01/2025 10:25

kkloo · 02/01/2025 22:03

And once again for the people at the back who didn't hear the first few times, no there is nothing petty about wanting a replacement, there's nothing wrong with how she handled it when texting her friend, that assertiveness was great.

It's this shit on mumsnet that is petty, childish and embarrassing and for those who know them the OP will come off just as badly if not worse than her friend.

You'd be happy if she was named publicly? Wow, well that says a lot about you doesn't it? Would you feel the same if it was your child or family member who did something and think that they deserved to be publicly named and shamed?

"It's this shit on mumsnet that is petty, childish and embarrassing and for those who know them the OP will come off just as badly if not worse than her friend." Are you for real? You're seriously suggesting that a woman who has lent a friend an expensive possession in good faith and has come on MN to ANONYMOUSLY vent about the fact that the so-called "friend" hasn't returned it and has repeatedly lied as to the reason why not, will "come off just as badly if not worse than her friend". My God, you have have some skewed morals claiming that the victim in this situation is as bad, or worse, than the perpetrator. I hate to think what you're teaching your kids - they'll likely grow up to be just like CF (or even worse!).

Snazzysausage · 03/01/2025 10:25

I meant to add in my above post if the air wrap is returned but not in the same condition as when you lent it,that is not to your satisfaction and you proceed with court action obviously.

Memyselfmilly · 03/01/2025 10:26

Pickledpoppetpickle · 02/01/2025 20:31

Yes, of course the friend needs to get it sorted. I would hazard a guess that the reason it hasn't been sorted is a) she's struggling financially what with just having got married, Christmas and the general cost of living and b) having more than likely seen the OP's nastiness, feels the needs to dig her heels in a bit.

Time will tell. If she's salaried, she may just have been paid so hopefully that will sort it.

This just isn’t how life works! You can’t decide when to pay someone back when it suits you. Sorry mortgage company, got married this month can’t pay you! There are plenty of 0% interest 12 month credit cards that she could use and pay off over the year.

you break it - you buy it.

Lexicarno · 03/01/2025 10:26

Langarg · 02/01/2025 22:44

Out of interest, I’m genuinely curious, how would you deal with this situation if you were in my shoes?

Has KKloo (CF) responded to this?

Thursdaygirl · 03/01/2025 10:27

CranfordScones · 03/01/2025 09:35

Small Claims Court may give you a judgement, but that's not that same thing as getting the money....

True. But if she didn't pay up, she would get a visit from the bailiffs, with lots of extra costs added on. Things really escalate at this point

PeppyGreenFinch · 03/01/2025 10:29

Lexicarno · 03/01/2025 10:26

Has KKloo (CF) responded to this?

KKloo isn’t the CF, she’s been here ages.

pictoosh · 03/01/2025 10:29

It has cost £500 to reveal this friend as a liability who will lie her tits off rather than simply right a wrong with integrity. She never had any intention of replacing the airwrap, whatever became of it. That she would have to use a credit card is of no matter. That's the consequence of disappearing someone else's item.

The tall tales are bad enough, but telling the OP that she had taken the shine off the wedding was nasty. She'd have been finished at that point for me. Selfish, grubby, manipulative creature. Outrageous.

Realistically, if this were me, I'd buy the airwrap on offer today if I could.
I wouldn't take it to small claims because honestly, I cba with the hassle of spinning it out. I'd not want contact with the twat ever again.

Didimum · 03/01/2025 10:31

AllEndeavour · 03/01/2025 10:21

Why would that matter? She is mentioned anonymously and her reputation has been entirely unaffected.

She owes OP and her refusal to reply to the last few messages with any indication of her plans to make this right is just as bad as her previous lies & guilt tripping

I didn’t say it mattered (other than likely frustrating OP). It’s an observation, calm down.

Needanewname42 · 03/01/2025 10:33

MandyFriend · 03/01/2025 09:22

I can see lots of people urging you head straight to court and I understand how let down and angry you must feel but speaking from personal experience, I would urge caution. If you now ex-friend is as broke as she claims, even when you get a judgement in your favour there is still no guarantee of you getting your money back. The chances are you will end up further out of pocket once you've paid the court fees.
My advice is to get her to return the broken AirWrap and send it off to Dyson for it to be repaired and CF can pay for it.

Either that or house insurance.
I think trying to go to court would just be drama and stress nobody needs

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