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Should she replace it? Part 3

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Langarg · 02/01/2025 19:09

I can’t believe we have a part 3 🤣 this has provided some lighthearted entertainment at a time where I’m feeling really let down by someone I considered a good friend. So thank you! I have posted an update on thread 2, will post it here also.

I have sent the following text message ‘Having reflected on what you have said, how the airwrap was lost/broken or otherwise is irrelevant. I considered asking you for pictures of the broken airwrap or asking to speak to your sister to ask her what happened but it will get us nowhere. All that matters is I am down a Dyson airwrap and I want a new replacement. You’ll need to either transfer me the £399 tonight to pay for this or purchase it yourself from boots and send me the email receipt this evening. You can then sort out with your sister whether she is going to contribute to the cost of it. We can then put this behind us’

I have no interest in maintaining the friendship after this for obvious reasons. I am worried that she’s seen the thread (how can she not have 🤣) and knows this fine well so will have no intention of replacing it sadly.

I don’t think I’ll ever get the truth (was there even a wedding at this rate?! 🤣) all that matters to me now is getting a replacement airwrap!!!!

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Langarg · 02/01/2025 22:43

HootyMcBoobs · 02/01/2025 22:16

To those defending the "friend".

  1. She was careless (at best) with a VERY expensive item not belonging to her
  2. She held off telling the OP what had happened obviously in the hope it would somehow be forgotten
  3. She lied and said it had been stolen, implicating innocent parties at the hotel and potentially staring a serious police investigation of innocent staff
  4. She potentially dragged the name of a business through the mud
  5. She lied and said she had called the hotel
  6. She lied and said she was driving to the hotel to investigate the "theft"
  7. She lied and said the (fake) trip couldn't happen because of the weather
  8. She lied and said she had spoken to the hotel about the "theft"
  9. She implicated her new husband
  10. She has now implicated her sister
  11. She tried to get the OP to feel bad by saying it had "taken the shine" out of her wedding, KNOWING that she was lying all the while
  12. She was happy to fob the OP off with a cheapo crappy un-warrantied piece of shit from ebay/gumtree

What the OP has done

  1. Started an (anonymous) thread on Mumsnet

Yeah, I can see how the OP is a big bad meanie here. What an absolute cow, trying to get her property back from a lying low-rent craphole of a friend.

Gives your heads a wobble.

Seeing all of this written out helps me to see I’ve not been unreasonable in my approach to this, thank you!

I’ve still had no response and I’m going through the motions of feeling angry that I was lied to, upset that she’s taken the p*ss out of me, worried that I’ve been unreasonable in my approach, flabbergasted that this has even happened and fed up that it’s gone on for so long!

I don’t want to get myself too caught up in whether it being broken is true, I’ll likely never know the truth. What I do know though is that I no longer have my airwrap and getting it back (or a replacement) is seeming less and less likely as time goes on unfortunately. Before tonight’s phone call I actually had hope that it would miraculously reappear!

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MJconfessions · 02/01/2025 22:43

On this forum there’s always posters who bend over backwards to make the OP seem in the wrong, no matter what.

You haven’t embarrassed anyone here, your friend has embarrassed herself with her own actions and should be thoroughly ashamed of herself. Who even treats their friends in this manner? I hope she re-evaluates her whole attitude after this.

Langarg · 02/01/2025 22:44

kkloo · 02/01/2025 22:19

It doesn't say anything bad about me so I'll take that as a compliment.

Nothing wrong with thinking adults should behave like adults, sometimes adults do shitty things and people should then deal with that like adults, instead of regressing to acting like mean girls. I wouldn't have even acted like that as a teenager but it's clear some of you never grew out of it.

Out of interest, I’m genuinely curious, how would you deal with this situation if you were in my shoes?

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MJconfessions · 02/01/2025 22:45

From what I hear, the money claim online process is fairly straightforward. You can find letter before action templates online too.

PeppyGreenFinch · 02/01/2025 22:45

Langarg · 02/01/2025 22:43

Seeing all of this written out helps me to see I’ve not been unreasonable in my approach to this, thank you!

I’ve still had no response and I’m going through the motions of feeling angry that I was lied to, upset that she’s taken the p*ss out of me, worried that I’ve been unreasonable in my approach, flabbergasted that this has even happened and fed up that it’s gone on for so long!

I don’t want to get myself too caught up in whether it being broken is true, I’ll likely never know the truth. What I do know though is that I no longer have my airwrap and getting it back (or a replacement) is seeming less and less likely as time goes on unfortunately. Before tonight’s phone call I actually had hope that it would miraculously reappear!

OP, when I had a situation with a friend refusing to return money to me, the only that worked was me unexpectedly visiting her house. Somehow seeing me ask in person shamed her into transferring the money that night.

HootyMcBoobs · 02/01/2025 22:47

Add to the list the fact that she loaned it out to her "sister" without your permission, as it doesn't even belong to her in the first place!

MerrilyOnhigh · 02/01/2025 22:47

OP, have you asked your friend whether this was covered by her own or her sister's insurance?

CleaningAngel · 02/01/2025 22:48

Langarg · 02/01/2025 22:43

Seeing all of this written out helps me to see I’ve not been unreasonable in my approach to this, thank you!

I’ve still had no response and I’m going through the motions of feeling angry that I was lied to, upset that she’s taken the p*ss out of me, worried that I’ve been unreasonable in my approach, flabbergasted that this has even happened and fed up that it’s gone on for so long!

I don’t want to get myself too caught up in whether it being broken is true, I’ll likely never know the truth. What I do know though is that I no longer have my airwrap and getting it back (or a replacement) is seeming less and less likely as time goes on unfortunately. Before tonight’s phone call I actually had hope that it would miraculously reappear!

I think now you need to pay her a visit, when the husband is in too!! Lay it out plain and simple and none of her excuse.
' so friend do you intend on replacing my ait wrap or fobbing me off?'

CoverMySoul · 02/01/2025 22:49

Langarg · 02/01/2025 22:43

Seeing all of this written out helps me to see I’ve not been unreasonable in my approach to this, thank you!

I’ve still had no response and I’m going through the motions of feeling angry that I was lied to, upset that she’s taken the p*ss out of me, worried that I’ve been unreasonable in my approach, flabbergasted that this has even happened and fed up that it’s gone on for so long!

I don’t want to get myself too caught up in whether it being broken is true, I’ll likely never know the truth. What I do know though is that I no longer have my airwrap and getting it back (or a replacement) is seeming less and less likely as time goes on unfortunately. Before tonight’s phone call I actually had hope that it would miraculously reappear!

I'm so sorry OP. Aside from everything else, this awful woman is really putting you through it and stealing your peace of mind as well as your Airwrap!

You know you can't trust her at all. I truly hope you cut her off and raise a small claim against her.

It's up to her to name her sister as another party - although all of that is likely to be BS anyway. You have no knowledge of any of the 'wine broke my hairdryer crap' other than what she says, and it's likely to be more lies.

bigkahunaburger · 02/01/2025 22:51

OP I wouldnt visit her, or have any phonecalls. You need written evidence now. You also dont want to get embroiled in any more bullshit. I think you are sensing that there is more excuses to come and its somehow going to become your problem. 'Oh sister has broken it and can only pay x amount, and hubby says we arent liable, and maybe we can pay 30 per cent and she will pay rest, but we are discussing that, but she has to wait for payday and on and on and on....' None of that shit matters. If you go face to face or phone, then you run the risk of the resolution becoming your problem. No its hers. No excuses.

Personally I wouldnt bother and just go small claims court now. The time for discussion is well and truly past.

Littlemisscapable · 02/01/2025 22:52

PreciousMahoney · 02/01/2025 21:59

Followed from the beginning.

All this shite about teen behaviour and pile ons have me chuckling, no ones real life name is mentioned so the only person that has the right to feel piled on is the borrowing friend, who deserves it. She's the only one who knows its about her.

I dont believe the sister borrowing it story, but if it was true then the borrowing sister is equally culpable. That said, the friend was entrusted with it and responsible for it, so she's the one that shoukd be paying OP and then getting half, or all of the dosh back from her sister.

Op your messages were fine, and if she doesn't make amends I would go the small claims route.

Good luck

Edited

This. I think the CF family have joined mumsnet and are the ones posting about mean girls etc. Wise up. OP deserves replacement. "Friend' has behaved appallingly. End of.

Tourmalines · 02/01/2025 22:52

kkloo · 02/01/2025 19:36

She was cheeky but I personally wouldn't throw away a friendship over this, or even I didn't want to be friends anymore I wouldn't make this all the worse by posting everything on MN, you're coming across as very childish and petty here all for the sake of getting a little dopamine boost from some randoms on MN that you don't even know.

She may not know randoms on mumsnet but she certainly didn’t know her real friend that well it seems , although she did know she has form for certain behaviour. She was kind enough to still lend it and has received nothing but lies and deceit. Without trust there can be no friendship. If you are desperate for friends you do you . Hope she gets more than a dopamine boost and gets a hairdryer exactly like her original.

ifIwerenotanandroid · 02/01/2025 22:53

Don't give up yet OP. You're not in any worse a position than you were before. You don't have your airwrap & your 'friend' owes you the money for it. It's been that way for a while. There's nothing you can do to put that right tonight, so don't worry about it needlessly. Tomorrow is another day, & all that.

I can't help wondering though... Have you seen any pictures of the wedding?

mummabubs · 02/01/2025 22:54

I'm really sorry this has happened to you @Langarg. (But I also have to thank you for posting as this is the most invested I've been in a MN thread for ages).

I think in your position I could maybe have forgiven the friend lending it to her sister (although I'd have still been wicked annoyed); but it's the lengths she went to in lying - repeatedly and potentially putting members of staff in the hotel under scrutiny when you called them to ask based on her completely made-up story.

Well done for asserting yourself and I think we're all cheering you on to get your new replacement asap x

dapsnotplimsolls · 02/01/2025 22:57

mummabubs · 02/01/2025 22:54

I'm really sorry this has happened to you @Langarg. (But I also have to thank you for posting as this is the most invested I've been in a MN thread for ages).

I think in your position I could maybe have forgiven the friend lending it to her sister (although I'd have still been wicked annoyed); but it's the lengths she went to in lying - repeatedly and potentially putting members of staff in the hotel under scrutiny when you called them to ask based on her completely made-up story.

Well done for asserting yourself and I think we're all cheering you on to get your new replacement asap x

Best thread since Babs and the stolen allotment (that wasn't an allotment).

JammySlag · 02/01/2025 22:57

dapsnotplimsolls · 02/01/2025 22:57

Best thread since Babs and the stolen allotment (that wasn't an allotment).

Yes! That was a favourite of mine too 😍

bigkahunaburger · 02/01/2025 22:58

JammySlag · 02/01/2025 22:57

Yes! That was a favourite of mine too 😍

Mine too! Whatever happened with that? Anyone got a link? It was batshit.

AndThereSheGoes · 02/01/2025 22:59

@bigkahunaburger

It's likely she lied because she doesn't have £400 to replace it. She's panicked and tried to buy time.
If she was better off this thread wouldn't exist would it. She'd have just apologised and bought Op a new one.

Unless the Op actually thinks the friend has intentionally nicked it all the lies are byproducts of being skint rather than a deliberate attempt to defraud the Op.

Sadly I think this will drag on unless Op does threaten small claims. The prospect of a bigger bill might spur her on.

Langarg · 02/01/2025 23:00

Oh I was invested in that thread too! Did we ever find out the outcome?

Thank you @ifIwerenotanandroid that’s true. I’m still in the same position as I was the day I posted this thread I suppose!

I’m not sure why but I feel quite reluctant with the threat of small claims. I will keep it up my sleeve as a last resort if this keeps dragging on though

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Mrsbloggz · 02/01/2025 23:00

Here for the ride & hoping for a good outcome!

tigerlily9 · 02/01/2025 23:01

I wouldn’t bother with small claims court, If she has borrowed an item and not returned its theft. You should report her to the police. You have evidence - telephone recording, email or texts that you lent it to her and she had not returned it. Especially if there is a changing story.
I would say if you don’t give me the money to replace it I will be going to the police.

Ellie56 · 02/01/2025 23:02

Try this @Langarg (maybe taking a partner or friend along with you) and if that fails send the pre-action letter before going to small claims court. She probably won't be expecting that.

You are NOT being unreasonable. Do not think for one moment that you are. You lent an expensive piece of equipment to your so called friend in good faith. You had every right to expect it to be returned to you straight after the wedding, in the same condition it was in when you lent it to her.

This woman is a liar, wholly untrustworthy and a shameless bitch. She has betrayed you. Vile horrible woman.

Gggglinda · 02/01/2025 23:03

It took her that long to come up with the biggest crock of shit I've ever heard in my life. Does she really undermine your intelligence to this degree? Every update I think she can't get any worse.

dapsnotplimsolls · 02/01/2025 23:03

bigkahunaburger · 02/01/2025 22:58

Mine too! Whatever happened with that? Anyone got a link? It was batshit.

The OP disappeared, so we'll never know!

Givemestrength1000 · 02/01/2025 23:04

tigerlily9 · 02/01/2025 23:01

I wouldn’t bother with small claims court, If she has borrowed an item and not returned its theft. You should report her to the police. You have evidence - telephone recording, email or texts that you lent it to her and she had not returned it. Especially if there is a changing story.
I would say if you don’t give me the money to replace it I will be going to the police.

Unfortunately it does not clear the evidence bar for theft, as the OP cannot prove there was an intention to permanently deprive her of the property. The only thing she can prove is that it hasn’t been returned for convoluted reasons. Breaking something isn’t theft.

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