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To divorce my husband just so I have to spend less time with my baby

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LampLamp · 01/01/2025 12:52

My husband is a nice bloke, we get on well, we have decent enough sex, we’ve been married for well over a decade and generally plodded along okay. I want to divorce him.

In October I gave birth to our much wanted daughter. She’s lovely but genuinely I’d like to spend a lot less time with her.

I don’t earn enough on my own to keep the household going with all the bills, cars, pets and mortgage but my husband does, so I’m stuck with maternity leave and relentless grizzling, screaming and shit. Honestly all she does is sleep (rarely) or scream.

I am thinking about divorcing him purely to have less time with her. Upon returning to work, I could afford a one bed flat on my own even if I dropped to 3 days a week.
I am aware that sounds extreme but I can’t cope with the yapping, whinging and grizzling for the years to come. I’d happily be a once a weekend parent.

OP posts:
Mischance · 01/01/2025 13:39

Lentilweaver · 01/01/2025 13:34

Exactly. I was babbling nonsense. The 2004 tsunami happened and I barely noticed it. I was so engrossed in myself. Also far from family.

Nobody will judge you. PND is very common.

The other illogical thought is that divorce is a rout out of this dilemma ... these are the disordered thoughts of depression and need tackling. Really OP you need some help. PND is very common ... you need to try and recognise what us happening and seek help.

Barrenfieldoffucks · 01/01/2025 13:39

LampLamp · 01/01/2025 13:23

Thank you.

That’s me done.

Please come back OP. It was so brave to come here in the first place.

PeppyGreenFinch · 01/01/2025 13:41

I hope OP gets the support she needs.

It’s interesting that men get to check out of their babies and children’s lives but when women do it, it’s unthinkable.

LadyTable · 01/01/2025 13:41

muckingfuddle4 · 01/01/2025 13:36

I agree nobody can know how they will feel especially if PND is involved. I do, however, believe most people have an understanding that children are a massive responsibility and do upheave your life.

I’m stuck with maternity leave and relentless grizzling, screaming and shit. Honestly all she does is sleep (rarely) or scream.

This is what babies do.

This is what babies do

That has to be in the top 3 most unhelpful and most pathetic things to say to a struggling mother of a newborn.

Almost as bad as My baby's slept through the night since they were a week old.

Hoppinggreen · 01/01/2025 13:41

chickenpieandchips · 01/01/2025 13:38

Can your dh look after the baby for a night.
Book a hotel. And sleep.
Get a babysitter/cleaner in.
And speak to the health visitor. Even if it's not PND she'll be supportive and kind and discuss your worries.

Problem with that is it reminds you of life pre baby but its only temporary and then you have to look after him/her again and it all comes crashing down on you

EmmaOvary · 01/01/2025 13:41

Looks like OP won’t be back. Well done to the vile posters who kicked a woman when she was down. Start the year as you mean to go on, eh.

Karmacode · 01/01/2025 13:42

I sympathise OP. I felt like this at 3 months, would have quite happily walked out the door and divorced my husband to have become a part time parent. I honestly felt like I'd made the worst mistake of my life It's very hard when you have a new baby and nothing to compare it too.

However you won't have a baby forever. They won't always be whinging, grizzling and screaming forever even though it feels like they will now. They'll sleep through sooner than you know and things won't feel so heavy. I have a 2.5 now and while it's not always sunshine and roses and they are hard days (as with everything else), I absolutely adore being his mum and I'd be heartbroken to not be around him and think he's the best thing I've done in my life. If you told me that at 3 months I would feel this way, I would have thought you insane.

I know you don't have any support but is there any way you can arrange some respite. Even a childminder or nursery a few days a week. I know it's expensive and people here are very generally against childcare at a young age but if it gives you a bit of a break and allows you to bond better with your LO, I'd definitely consider it. Also please reach out for support, my HV were amazing with supporting me.

mikado1 · 01/01/2025 13:42

Have read all OP posts.
Like pp I also remember thinking how do people do this/have another etc in early months and he wasn't constantly screaming. Like you we had no one nearby so v much on own.
If you divorce you will have 50:50 care. Would you speak to your husband, who doesn't seem to be the problem at all and try to do 50:50 as much as possible for the time being so you can get the very definite down time and breaks without the huge negatives of divorce? It should get easier. It is very difficult for you to feel like this. Your dc may also be absorbing your feelings and that won't help her settling. Perhaps with the proper breaks for yourself, and I'd pay for them if your husband works late etc, you'll be able to tolerate things more. Solidarity and wishing you the best.

AhBiscuits · 01/01/2025 13:44

Go back to work OP. Put the baby in nursery and divide her care with DH when not working. You just need some space.

muckingfuddle4 · 01/01/2025 13:44

LadyTable · 01/01/2025 13:41

This is what babies do

That has to be in the top 3 most unhelpful and most pathetic things to say to a struggling mother of a newborn.

Almost as bad as My baby's slept through the night since they were a week old.

Not really, I am simply pointing out that most of us have been there.

I don't think it is the baby that is the issue, OP appears to have PND.

user1492757084 · 01/01/2025 13:45

It's common to feel that one's only worth is now as a mother. To feel over burdened and without choices, sleep, hobbies or friends. Don't divorce but make plans to arrange your life differently.
Ideas..
Find paid childcare for your daughter for one day per week. Go back to work for a short day. Keep up or start a hobby.
Do you like sketching? You could do artwork with the baby in the pram in lovely gardens near where you live.
Take a daily walk, or two, outside with the baby every day.
Visit local libraries and join in with their story time activities; meet local mothers for coffee dates.
Hire a baby sitter once per fortnight and go out with your husband.
Do something enjoyable every day.
Your daughter will start to communicate with you more as she gets older and that could vastly improve how you feel about spending large tracts of time with her.
Don't feel guilty if you want to go back to work full time before she is nine months. She will be well looked after if you find qualified child care.
Confide in your child care nurse as to how you are feeling.
They can put you in touch with useful and enjoyable groups and suggest ways to manage your situation.

LadyTable · 01/01/2025 13:49

muckingfuddle4 · 01/01/2025 13:44

Not really, I am simply pointing out that most of us have been there.

I don't think it is the baby that is the issue, OP appears to have PND.

Yes but she's not stupid, everyone knows that's what babies do.

mikado1 · 01/01/2025 13:51

I actually remember walking past a prison one day and thinking seriously how nice it would be to be in there on a less serious charge, for a few weeks' break!!

Hankunamatata · 01/01/2025 13:53

Hi op. I felt like you with dc1.

Dh was a sahd.

I fed baby and passed him to dh. I rarely held him except for feeding. He cried a lot. I didn't love him. It felt endless and dull and the worst mistake I'd ever made. I was never alone with baby, dh took charge

Mil stepped in when baby was 3 months old. Took me to GP, I started on medication and counselling. Making sure I got enough sleep. Things did get better and I started to love the small screaming person that was ruling my life

At the time I thought I was thinking perfectly clearly and rationally. I had the thoughts about leaving dh with the baby and starting again. But turns out I wasn't.

Pls talk to someone. Anyone. Doesn't have to be GP

Fifthtimelucky · 01/01/2025 13:54

Divorce seems rather drastic if you are otherwise happy. Surely the best solution is to get back to work?

You are not "stuck with maternity leave". You don't have to take as much of it as you are entitled to. You have a choice. When I had my first child, most women I knew went back to work at 3 months.

I presume that you have had your baby checked out by the doctor and that there is no medical reason for her to cry a lot?

Some babies just do seem to scream a lot. My sister had one that did. She was only really quiet when on the move - either being pushed in her pram, or being driven, or sitting in an electronic swing. If I remember rightly she was much better by about 4 months so you could be half way through the worst.

Good luck.

Katemax82 · 01/01/2025 13:55

My mum wanted to throw me out the hospital window and jump.after me...PND is quite extreme sometimes

wellington77 · 01/01/2025 13:58

LampLamp · 01/01/2025 12:52

My husband is a nice bloke, we get on well, we have decent enough sex, we’ve been married for well over a decade and generally plodded along okay. I want to divorce him.

In October I gave birth to our much wanted daughter. She’s lovely but genuinely I’d like to spend a lot less time with her.

I don’t earn enough on my own to keep the household going with all the bills, cars, pets and mortgage but my husband does, so I’m stuck with maternity leave and relentless grizzling, screaming and shit. Honestly all she does is sleep (rarely) or scream.

I am thinking about divorcing him purely to have less time with her. Upon returning to work, I could afford a one bed flat on my own even if I dropped to 3 days a week.
I am aware that sounds extreme but I can’t cope with the yapping, whinging and grizzling for the years to come. I’d happily be a once a weekend parent.

This screams post partum depression or you just really haven’t bonded with baby well enough or you need your husband to step up and help. Divorcing husband isn’t the option! Go to the drs to get mental health support or a charity, but most importantly sit down with your husband and tell him how you feel. I should think he would come up with a better option than divorce! Have you looked into shared maternity leave?

Marshbird · 01/01/2025 14:00

LampLamp · 01/01/2025 12:55

We have no help or support. Our family live a min of 4 hours away and are elderly/useless.
So we are stuck with this for the rest of our lives.

Worst decision I’ve ever made.

Babies change. they become kids then teeens then young adults. For one thing they learn how to speak and that makes life so much easier.

you don’t get told as a perspective parent that you will HATE certain periods of your child’s development. That there will be stages you are magnificent at, and stages you are total crap at. Every parent will experience it differently, and generally they might even experience it different depending on the individual child.

I think you need to accept you are crap with young babies. I was. I tried to battle this and my lack of bonding. I ended up with PND first time round. Second time, I was ready. Realised I Don’t do babies and didn’t expect myself to. But I had the knowledge that the first 12 months goes a lot quicker than it seemed when in the middle of it first time around. I also got far more militant with my husband and ditched all this crap about protecting his sleep at the cost of mine because he was “working” whereas I was on maternity leave. It had cost me my mental health first time, and I wasn’t going to fall for that.

so much utter tosh is spoken about the “myth of motherhood”. In nature we accept many new “mum” primates or other animals (sheep fgs) abandoning their babies without much criticism and we step in or bring in adoptive “mum” animals to bottle raise and nurture. We accept that is how nature roles and some new mums can’t cope. Full stop. And have a strong instinct to ditch and run. It’s called survival. When it comes to humans, an arguable more difficult role, we expect human mums to be swept away without exception in a wave of instant binding and love and maternal dedication. Utter bollocks. Many mums like me, and it seems you, never bond totally with young baby , find it total unsatisfying and brain numbingly dull. And soul destroying.

BUT, for me turning point was when they started to talk (or at least babble) and their curiosity began to develop. By 18 months I was in love with my kids and mothering, I absolutely loved the toddler stage, all the why, why why, and could handle tantrums etc . Whereas some mothers will completely hate this stage and become so overwhelmed with their little cute baby turning into a wilful monster at times. And some parents are just bloody lousy and teaching and maturing toddlers who are pushing boundaries constantly.

same with teens, I did ok and was blesed with 2 DC whose rebellious streaks were relatively tame. Other parents are agian either lousy at this stage, or are faced with much more difficult situations where their lovely child is being influenced by their peer group of terrorists.

but then, my eldest turned pretty awful when at university . I could have thrown him out of the home multiple times towards the end of his uni vacations when he came back home💁🏼. He was, bluntly, a complete prick. he took till 26, a few live on girlfriends, and working and supporting himself to become a full grown pleasant and sometimes rather lovely human being again.

the bottom line is humans take 25 years to develop properly. We as parents have no prior training and experience. We are not all good at same stuff. There’s going to be 26 years of change in terms of how you feel about your child and they respond to you. Nothing will stay the same for more than a couple of years, before they hit another stage of brain development and change again, and you’re left scrabbling around trying to figure out how to change to meet this new era.

please hang in there. this is now. It will NOT last. You are experiencing all the emotional pull of survivors Instinct to cut and run. Accept that. Fight it. You don’t have to like it. Stop lying to people that you do anything but hate it and are crap with babies. Sure, it might shock them, but it will raise their awareness you can’t keep going as it is.

If your partner isn’t stepping up they’re not going to do that if you walk out. Your baby is 4 months old, so very early stages. They need you more than you need them right now. Don’t expect to bond and love them unconditionally. They do that with you and it’s enough. See it as a military campaign of 9-12 moms. (Which you’re 3 months into) and you just need to get through 1 day at a time.

but, first get to your Gp or health visitor and get checked for PND.

THEN talk to your husband and TELL him what he needs to do, precisely, days, hours, times. And tasks. Don’t ask him. Wirte it down if needed. Tell him if he doesn’t do this you will become ill with PND or stress and he’ll have to take time off work completely to stop in completely. He’s not helping you. He’s raising his kid

if you’re still breast feeding exclusively, well done you, but think hard now about bottle at least in combo.

if husband doesn’t take his tasks on board, once on bottle, book yourself into a hotel overnight at weekend when dh isn’t working . Get up on that morning, deposit baby IHT dh and walk out. Once out text him saying you need space for 36 hours, tell him your safe, want baby to be safe so need this and tell him you’ll be home afternoon of Sunday. . Get to hotel, sleep, watch tv, go round shops, go for walks whatever to find a bit of you. It’s a crash course for dh, he’ll probably screw some stuff up, not do it your way, but baby will survive and he’ll be a better parent a bit towards end. Don’t do it in anger. When you text say sorry that you need this. For yours and babies safeguarding.

Once you’ve done that, and he’s recovered from shock of it then look for mums and toddler groups etc to get yourself outside the house and have a laugh about the drudgery of nappies, sick, etc . You’ll find a tribe of mums who like you hate the small baby time .

it is difficult without a relative nearby who can come in for a few hours. I know this, my parents and ILS were 200 and 400 miles away. No sisters. No relatives nearby. It’s so hard. But it is not uncommon and not solely the reason why you feel as you do. But linking up with other adults for a few hours a week to grab an adult conversation between your child’s demands can help to make you feel human agian. And away form drudgery

when I was having kids, maternity leave was 6 months “only”. I was out of it with PND for most of it, but somehow at around 5 months things started to change with my baby, And I began to feel more “me” a bit,.. by 6 months I was ready to get back into work (part time). Going back to work was a blessing and game changer. I became me agian, it finally put the PND to bed, baby thrived with a lovely childminder way better at babies than me, husband realised he couldn’t dump on me and expect me to do nights all the time becuase I was now”working” too at a more demanding job than him. Made him pull his socks up. But also I think men often find it hard to bond with baby the,selves during first 6 months due to intensity of baby mother bond . It’s difficult enough for some mums, but many dads start to relate to baby once they get to 6 months a bit more deeply. So, if you are still hating it by 6 months, look at approaching work to go back in on reduced hours..for you that can be a life changer and make all the difference. Ignore the gaps of horror and “how could you leave your baby at such a young age” from the perfect mummy brigade. It’s called survival. It’s called a happy mum makes a happy baby. It’s called “normal” for women having babies in 1990s, and kids they had seemed to have less mental health issues than current wave of kids at school….not that this is cause, but child care at 6 months doesn’t make for messed up babies.

please do just hang it. Talk to someone on how you feel. Honestly. It doesn’t make you a bad mum, just one that doesn’t do babies. You’re time as a mum is to come, it’ll come faster than you expect. Time is dragging now becuase it day is same, and nothing you can visualise to look forward to. It will change. Change is constant when raising kids.

FancyFran · 01/01/2025 14:03

OP I'm sorry.
Some people do get PND I had it with my second. Totally doolally. I had help in the house, plenty of money, blah blah.
I needed medication and it saved me. 18 months later I didn't need the meds. There is no shame in taking them. PND is a chemical post partum imbalance. And don't let any preachy harpie tell you otherwise!

My first had collic and never slept, still doesn't.
My second was atopic so every time I gave her formula she screamed the bloody house down. Luckily someone noticed the rashes, the poor sausage was bright red from the cows milk.

If it will make you laugh my dreams were pretty special. I was dating Tom Cruise and I can't stand that short arsed fucker!

Ring the GP tomorrow or the out of hours service. Try a dummy if you haven't already and bonjella if you think she has early teeth.
Some nasty old bats on here told me yesterday that my serious illness wasn't relevant to a post.
Fwiw my DD is now 21 and such a lovely person. I can't bare the thought of leaving her.

Hoppinggreen · 01/01/2025 14:05

mikado1 · 01/01/2025 13:51

I actually remember walking past a prison one day and thinking seriously how nice it would be to be in there on a less serious charge, for a few weeks' break!!

I genuinely thought about how nice it would be to have an accident or be really ill so that I could be in hospital for a bit

user1471516498 · 01/01/2025 14:12

This sounds like PND talking. You really need to see your GP tomorrow.

ElsieMc · 01/01/2025 14:13

How does your day begin? I had feelings of complete hopelessness and cried because I had to go through another day. I put on a brave face and took the horrible criticisms from my Pils with whom I am no longer in contact.

This was my second baby and I was fine with my first. You sound very alone.and I do urge you to get help. Looking back, someone to talk to and some kindness would have made a big difference.

My dd2 had medical issues, not her fault, but exacerbated the demands on me. She really was the sweetest girl but my own condition put distance between us on my part. I still feel guilt now for my feelings and she now has her own children. I look after them twice a week and try to make up for my shortcomings.

I do think you need to see your GP asap.

mikado1 · 01/01/2025 14:15

Hoppinggreen · 01/01/2025 14:05

I genuinely thought about how nice it would be to have an accident or be really ill so that I could be in hospital for a bit

Yes!!

Resilienceisimportant · 01/01/2025 14:17

Hoppinggreen · 01/01/2025 13:37

Its not shocking, she feels how she feels and its fine for her to express that her on an anonymous forum.
Would you rather she keep quiet in case she makes you feel uncomfortable?

Well it is shocking to me and as you have rightly pointed out we feel how we feel. Doesn’t make me uncomfortable at all (but thanks for putting words in my mouth). It makes me feel very sad and upset for that little girl.

PullTheBricksDown · 01/01/2025 14:18

Money is your friend OP. Buy childcare, buy help with the household tasks, whatever you need to give yourself time out. You sound like you're financially comfortable so spend whatever it takes to help during this awful spell of time. It will subside because babies grow and things will change, but you can't see that from within the hell of it all right now.

Practical points: check how much notice you have to give to come back to work from maternity leave. Mine was a month and I hadn't expected that so had to scramble to get it sorted.