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To hate that DGD has her ears pierced

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OhSoYouAreFancy · 30/12/2024 20:07

DGD is 3, she was born and until this summer raised abroad, DD got her ears pierced when she was weeks old, this is common practice there.
I hate it though, I think it looks so cheap and trashy!! DGD clearly couldn't consent and DD spends ridiculous amounts (of our money as we support her right now) on solid gold earrings for her.
I feel like when people realise they judge and think it looks downmarket and cheap.

AIBU to hate it?

OP posts:
purpleblue2 · 30/12/2024 22:08

I agree with you on this.

i have a 3 year old who has only just turned 3 and we went away with family and she seen the little girl with ear pierced and started asking for them herself. I then didn’t immediately run to get them done and I think I am going to wait until she asks again. I wouldn’t put her through it without her consent and I don’t agree that it should even be allowed on babies. I don’t have them so she won’t. You’re not wrong @OhSoYouAreFancy

Rainbowdottie · 30/12/2024 22:14

OhSoYouAreFancy · 30/12/2024 20:07

DGD is 3, she was born and until this summer raised abroad, DD got her ears pierced when she was weeks old, this is common practice there.
I hate it though, I think it looks so cheap and trashy!! DGD clearly couldn't consent and DD spends ridiculous amounts (of our money as we support her right now) on solid gold earrings for her.
I feel like when people realise they judge and think it looks downmarket and cheap.

AIBU to hate it?

Haven't read all the replies sorry. I'm a grandmother and just giving my first impression to your post. Whether you like it or not, I don't think it's anything to do with you (sorry). My granddaughter is nearly 2 and I'm sure my dil would love her ears pierced. In fact I know they've discussed it because my son said no. Either way it has nothing to do with me. Their baby, their discussion, their decision.

I admit I don't like it and I don't think it should be done on a baby....but your situation is slightly different in that it's cultural. I had my ears pierced at a young age through a cultural reason. It was/is just the done thing. It's not your granddaughters fault and tbh your dd is/was just trying to fit into the culture in which she lives. It's not the end of the world. Yes preferable not to have it done at this age but not the end of the world. It's done now.

OneLemonDog · 30/12/2024 22:17

I don't personally agree with piercing young children's ears, though I don't think it's a huge issue.

Your language about her looking cheap and trashy is gross, though, and if this is representative of who you are as person, then I dare say her relationship with you is more likely to be damaging than the piercings.

TempestTost · 30/12/2024 22:22

This is an area where mc people don't seem to hesitate to be openly snobby about customs of wc people or those from other cultures.

Wonderi · 30/12/2024 22:26

I absolutely hate it.

I don’t care if it’s ‘cultural’, there a lot of things in my culture that I don’t do because they don’t align with my morals.

Culture is never an excuse and I hate that this is trotted out.

If you want to get it done, at least be honest and say it’s because you want to get it done because you think it looks nice etc, don’t just say I had to do it because of my culture because that’s BS.

I agree with you OP but it’s done and saying anything isn’t going to help.

BlueSilverCats · 30/12/2024 22:38

ThatKhakiMoose · 30/12/2024 22:06

Trying to redress the balance here...

I wonder what things we do in white British culture that might seem "trashy" to other cultures? Here are some guesses:

Hunting
Looking more "natural" than in some cultures = to more dressy cultures, we might look unkempt. See Boris and his mad hair!
Our lack of enthusiasm for talking to people we don't know = might read as bad manners
Drinking a lot
Low marriage rates
Eating black pudding
Washing up in a bowl
Not having the top-sheet arrangement on the bed, just duvet covers.

Just trying to turn things around and see what might make us look bad to other cultures. We must surely look trashy in some ways too.

Drinking definitely.
Smoking in the street(especially as a woman).
Washing up in a bowl another one you got right. That's for poor people/without a water supply.
Dressing too casually. (especially in church,restaurants etc)
No curtains/lace curtains.

Not that I subscribe to those views. It's just arbitrary stuff.

LadyGaGasPokerFace · 30/12/2024 22:43

@Wonderi she’s just gonna have to mhob. It’s not her dc.
I didn’t get my dds ears pierced through fear of the judgy English mums. I didn’t need to fear as I live in a multicultural town and I’d say about 70% of the girls had pierced ears and no one gave a crap 🤷🏻‍♀️

BlueSilverCats · 30/12/2024 22:46

@Anonym00se I can respect and understand your view. Same with the people that are against it because it is painful (even if the baby can't remember it). Totally fair enough.

The shallow "what will people say", it looks trashy/cheap/tacky/whatever (or more like working class , or even worse like travellers) is bullshit though. They don't even see the irony in not doing something because it looks "bad" (at x arbitrary age) is just as bad as doing it because it looks cute/pretty. The focus is still on looks and people's opinion.

YourGladSquid · 30/12/2024 22:57

The only thing here that’s cheap, downmarket and trashy is your attitude.

WigglyVonWaggly · 30/12/2024 23:20

I have to say the use of the term ‘consent’ is one I don’t find myself agreeing with when it comes to piercing. The holes are tiny and heal. It’s not FGM. Most girls nag to get their ears pierced done. How many women who do have the ability to consent to ear piercing don’t consent and on what grounds? It’s hardly a violation if a parent puts earrings in. They can’t ask for it to be done but I don’t think I’d equate it with forcing something on a non-consenting person.

That says, I do think babies and toddlers are too little - no need to adorn them in any way - so I agree with you on that basis alone.

Davros · 30/12/2024 23:47

The strangest aspect of this is that it's only girls

BlueSilverCats · 30/12/2024 23:50

Davros · 30/12/2024 23:47

The strangest aspect of this is that it's only girls

I took DD back home when she was about 1 and everyone just assumed she was a boy due to the lack of earrings. Confused

They Also fussed about her lack of a hat but that's a whole other story. Grin

cherish123 · 31/12/2024 00:00

It looks awful and common on children under 10. They really don't need their ears pierced at this age. It's awkward for P.E etc

QuintessentialDragon · 31/12/2024 00:27

Bwahaha at Brits criticizing some cultures about their customs/looks. Especially someone like SPANISH or Italian or French (or pretty much anywhere except Germany, Australia and the US) women? Trashy? Are you joking? Have you seen the mirror or ever been to Spain? Brit tourists: pasty, fat, red gammons wearing cheap, unkempt, always at least a size too small clothing with their sweaty rolls lulling and exposed. Or all the above teamed with orange self tan, slug eyebrows, tatted-up, drag makeup, fish lips, tallon nails. And Spanish people. Elegant, well dressed/made and effort look, slim and trim, well cut, well made clothing.

Eastern Europen/Baltic women you don't even want to compare yourselves too. Tall, lean, willowy, beautiful, streets full of model-standard women.

Jesus C, it's definitely NOT for Brits to criticize anyone's looks or style choices. That's like Fiat Panda criticizing a new Lamborghini. Babies with (or without) earrings are the least of your problems.

LetsNCagain · 31/12/2024 06:43

QuintessentialDragon · 31/12/2024 00:27

Bwahaha at Brits criticizing some cultures about their customs/looks. Especially someone like SPANISH or Italian or French (or pretty much anywhere except Germany, Australia and the US) women? Trashy? Are you joking? Have you seen the mirror or ever been to Spain? Brit tourists: pasty, fat, red gammons wearing cheap, unkempt, always at least a size too small clothing with their sweaty rolls lulling and exposed. Or all the above teamed with orange self tan, slug eyebrows, tatted-up, drag makeup, fish lips, tallon nails. And Spanish people. Elegant, well dressed/made and effort look, slim and trim, well cut, well made clothing.

Eastern Europen/Baltic women you don't even want to compare yourselves too. Tall, lean, willowy, beautiful, streets full of model-standard women.

Jesus C, it's definitely NOT for Brits to criticize anyone's looks or style choices. That's like Fiat Panda criticizing a new Lamborghini. Babies with (or without) earrings are the least of your problems.

You've really undermined your argument with your awful stereotyping here. Gross

AsTheLightFades · 31/12/2024 06:53

You are so correct. Earrings on children under 12 look common and tacky. If it's culture elsewhere, fine because everyone does it.
In the UK, the peirced ears on children tell a completely different tale -rightly or wrongly. Assumptions will be made.

AsTheLightFades · 31/12/2024 06:54

OneLemonDog · 30/12/2024 22:17

I don't personally agree with piercing young children's ears, though I don't think it's a huge issue.

Your language about her looking cheap and trashy is gross, though, and if this is representative of who you are as person, then I dare say her relationship with you is more likely to be damaging than the piercings.

It is cheap and tacky
The OP, as a grandmother, and as a person, has a right to an opinion. Just because you don't agree with an opinion doesn't mean it is wrong, or that your attitude/opinion is the correct one.

ThejoyofNC · 31/12/2024 06:54

This is normal in my culture. I think my DD was about 10 weeks old when I got hers done. I think it looks beautiful.

lalafox · 31/12/2024 06:55

AsTheLightFades · 31/12/2024 06:53

You are so correct. Earrings on children under 12 look common and tacky. If it's culture elsewhere, fine because everyone does it.
In the UK, the peirced ears on children tell a completely different tale -rightly or wrongly. Assumptions will be made.

Can you elaborate further on these "assumptions" that will be made.....

MissTrip82 · 31/12/2024 06:59

Anyone looking at a toddler and thinking they look ‘downmarket’ or ‘cheap’ isn’t worth knowing.

A grandparent doing so? Good grief.

AsTheLightFades · 31/12/2024 07:00

5128gap · 30/12/2024 20:14

I agree with you about consent and its not something I'd do to a child. But it's her mums decision and done now, so you have to learn to ignore it. A little girl of 3 can't look 'down market'. It's a tiny aspect of the thing about her that matters least - her appearance. Try not to let it be too big a deal.

I think you'll find both boys aand girls aged 3 can look 'downmarket'...

ThejoyofNC · 31/12/2024 07:00

MissTrip82 · 31/12/2024 06:59

Anyone looking at a toddler and thinking they look ‘downmarket’ or ‘cheap’ isn’t worth knowing.

A grandparent doing so? Good grief.

I'd certainly relieve them of the duty of having such a cheap looking grandchild. They wouldn't be seeing her again.

AsTheLightFades · 31/12/2024 07:01

lalafox · 31/12/2024 06:55

Can you elaborate further on these "assumptions" that will be made.....

You need to camouflage your gin-trap better.

TheKeatingFive · 31/12/2024 07:04

This is not your call OP, so I'm not sure what you're gaining by getting worked up about it.

OliveLeader · 31/12/2024 07:06

YANBU to hate something, you’re entitled to feel how you feel (and I sympathise with you on this one because I hate seeing pierced ears on babies and toddlers).

That said, you can’t say anything or make your disapproval known. It’s a decision her parents were entitled to make, however much you dislike it.