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To hate that DGD has her ears pierced

163 replies

OhSoYouAreFancy · 30/12/2024 20:07

DGD is 3, she was born and until this summer raised abroad, DD got her ears pierced when she was weeks old, this is common practice there.
I hate it though, I think it looks so cheap and trashy!! DGD clearly couldn't consent and DD spends ridiculous amounts (of our money as we support her right now) on solid gold earrings for her.
I feel like when people realise they judge and think it looks downmarket and cheap.

AIBU to hate it?

OP posts:
Threeboystwocatsandadog · 30/12/2024 20:35

I hate it but Ddil is Mexican and her ears were pierced before she left the hospital. It’s likely that if they have a dd this tradition will continue.

ilovesooty · 30/12/2024 20:35

OhSoYouAreFancy · 30/12/2024 20:29

I imagine as she gets older she will be singled out for it rather than fitting in, no other parents at the school would be so stupid/shallow/cheap.

I see you're still throwing the snobby judgemental language about. It doesn't sound as though your main concern is the money or your granddaughter, but how it might reflect on you.

oakleaffy · 30/12/2024 20:36

OhSoYouAreFancy · 30/12/2024 20:29

I imagine as she gets older she will be singled out for it rather than fitting in, no other parents at the school would be so stupid/shallow/cheap.

Really, OP you are being absurd now.

I doubt if the other parents will even notice!

''Stupid''..''shallow'''...''Cheap?''

You don't seem to like your Grand daughter very much to imply such things about her.

OnePeppyDenimHelper · 30/12/2024 20:36

I don't live it but it is cultural and the norm in Spain

Miley1967 · 30/12/2024 20:37

YANBU. Our niece ( Vietnamese mum) had her ears pierced when a few days old as it's a cultural thing. I personally think it looks awful.

hazelnutvanillalatte · 30/12/2024 20:37

LadyGaGasPokerFace · 30/12/2024 20:19

There’s nothing more funny than watching a Brit get all het up about a tradition abroad like getting a kid’s ears pierced. I grew up with this weird disapproval from Brit parents because my ears were pierced. My parents are Eastern European and mine were done at 6 weeks old.
You’re just gonna have to get over it. There’s bigger fish to fry in life.

Agree. It does not hurt the baby any more than having immunisations and then they forget about it, and it's much easier than those in my family who waited until they were older and then were terrified, couldn't look after them, got one done and were too scared to have the other, etc. And of course if they don't like it when older they can just take them out.

Ultimately the bigger issue in the UK is that everything is based on class and middle class people think it looks lower class. Hence all OP's trashy, downmarket comments.

LetsNCagain · 30/12/2024 20:39

SereneFish · 30/12/2024 20:32

How odd.

I feel really sorry for anybody who feels compelled to wear makeup, get a tattoo, pierce holes in a baby or cut off its foreskin, or do anything else completely unnecessary to fit in with some aesthetic they've decided is necessary to take part in society. If they had the confidence to be their own person they would find society won't ostracise them as they fear.

Then you have to feel sorry for maybe 99% of the population, which seems rather arrogant.

I don't wear makeup or have any piercings/tattoos and nor do my kids. I'm never tempted by plastic surgery.

But I'd be a lonely person if I looked down on everyone who did those things.

I sometimes think social cohesion (and to that end, some level of conformity) is a noble goal in itself and so it's worth doing some illogical things towards that logical goal.

But maybe this is a philosophical derail.

BlueSilverCats · 30/12/2024 20:45

Oh no what will the people think? Who the fuck cares?

From the little you said ... let me guess. Your daughter moved abroad (to a Middle eastern countey?!?) and married a man there. She had a baby, conformed to the customs there (probably with the same what will people think view) then the relationship turned sour at best, abusive at worst she's now divorced and back in the UK with her daughter. Depending on the country she was in both her and you, are incredibly lucky to still have that little in your lives and living in the UK.

So once again, who the fuck cares that her ears are pierced? You and her mum and her , more than likely have bigger issues to deal with.

BunnyLake · 30/12/2024 20:47

I remember years ago in Spain seeing tiny twin girls with their ears pierced. They must have only been just a few months old. I thought it was awful but assumed it was cultural.

Meadowfinch · 30/12/2024 20:47

FatFiatMultiplaWhopper · 30/12/2024 20:17

I hate it. Hurting small children unnecessarily is just plain cruel. It looks awful too.

This. But I suppose it's done so is best ignored.

Most schools will allow her to wear only the smallest sleeper studs so nothing too brash or bling for all of primary school.

Billblue · 30/12/2024 20:50

You can hate it as much as you like she is not your child. She is DDs child.

BeachHutsAndDeckchairs · 30/12/2024 20:50

It's not brilliant (and I'd advise getting titanium if possible rather than gold) but what can you do about it? It isn't something I did, or would do, with young dc but it's not as if she'd be the only child with earrings: I have worked in several nurseries in my area and there are quite a few young girls with pierced ears.

Nanny0gg · 30/12/2024 20:52

Sceptical123 · 30/12/2024 20:09

DD got her ears pierced when she was weeks old?

Quite common in certain European countries

Nanny0gg · 30/12/2024 20:53

OhSoYouAreFancy · 30/12/2024 20:11

Sorry I meant DGD, DD was 11 when she got hers done.

That's young in my view, so...

Horses for courses

BlueSilverCats · 30/12/2024 20:53

BunnyLake · 30/12/2024 20:47

I remember years ago in Spain seeing tiny twin girls with their ears pierced. They must have only been just a few months old. I thought it was awful but assumed it was cultural.

It really is. In many, many countries. Some quite "civilised ". Done to children of doctors, lawyers, gentry etc. In a lot of them it's done in the hospital by the nurses and it's tradition for a baby girl to get earrings at birth from the extended family as a gift or heirloom earrings to be left to future baby girl.

I was abandoned at birth so didn't have mine done in the hospital, I had them done at 2 instead.

It's quite crappy and narrow minded to judge whole countries(and its citizens) as cheap,trashy, chavvy etc. just because that is the view here. England/UK is not the benchmark for the entire world , and it's quite an imperialistic view to assume it is.

Nanny0gg · 30/12/2024 20:55

OhSoYouAreFancy · 30/12/2024 20:29

I imagine as she gets older she will be singled out for it rather than fitting in, no other parents at the school would be so stupid/shallow/cheap.

Seriously?

You're trolling now

OhSoYouAreFancy · 30/12/2024 20:58

BlueSilverCats · 30/12/2024 20:53

It really is. In many, many countries. Some quite "civilised ". Done to children of doctors, lawyers, gentry etc. In a lot of them it's done in the hospital by the nurses and it's tradition for a baby girl to get earrings at birth from the extended family as a gift or heirloom earrings to be left to future baby girl.

I was abandoned at birth so didn't have mine done in the hospital, I had them done at 2 instead.

It's quite crappy and narrow minded to judge whole countries(and its citizens) as cheap,trashy, chavvy etc. just because that is the view here. England/UK is not the benchmark for the entire world , and it's quite an imperialistic view to assume it is.

Sure, but DD rejects every other aspect of the culture, even when she was there she embraced just enough to be respectful (never did hair covers, still drank in private, ignored most of the religious aspect, dressed in a way which might be seen as modest by UK standards but not the cultural standard), picking and choosing makes it seem like it isn't about culture at all.

OP posts:
Combattingthemoaners · 30/12/2024 20:59

You can hate it but ultimately if she’s happy and healthy then I think you should count your blessings.

BlueSilverCats · 30/12/2024 21:00

Oh looks like I was right in my assumptions about the situation.

Did you also post about buying loads of presents for DGD for Christmas morning?

If not , there another grandma on here in a very similar situation, down to the private schooling and plenty of funds.

Billblue · 30/12/2024 21:01

OhSoYouAreFancy · 30/12/2024 20:58

Sure, but DD rejects every other aspect of the culture, even when she was there she embraced just enough to be respectful (never did hair covers, still drank in private, ignored most of the religious aspect, dressed in a way which might be seen as modest by UK standards but not the cultural standard), picking and choosing makes it seem like it isn't about culture at all.

She doesn't have to justify herself to you. It's her child. She decides. You had your turn parenting. You need to understand your role as a grandparent and back off otherwise you're going to alienate you daughter. She's only been back for 5 minutes.

OhSoYouAreFancy · 30/12/2024 21:01

BlueSilverCats · 30/12/2024 21:00

Oh looks like I was right in my assumptions about the situation.

Did you also post about buying loads of presents for DGD for Christmas morning?

If not , there another grandma on here in a very similar situation, down to the private schooling and plenty of funds.

I've read that post, not the same DD wasn't abused, her ex is also living in the UK (but no contact) and different country.

OP posts:
bridgetreilly · 30/12/2024 21:09

It’s not your granddaughter who will be judged but your daughter.

Anonym00se · 30/12/2024 21:10

hazelnutvanillalatte · 30/12/2024 20:37

Agree. It does not hurt the baby any more than having immunisations and then they forget about it, and it's much easier than those in my family who waited until they were older and then were terrified, couldn't look after them, got one done and were too scared to have the other, etc. And of course if they don't like it when older they can just take them out.

Ultimately the bigger issue in the UK is that everything is based on class and middle class people think it looks lower class. Hence all OP's trashy, downmarket comments.

I hate it, but it’s nothing to do with class or how it looks; I just believe that someone shouldn’t have the right to pierce another human being who hasn’t consented to it. If my mother forcibly had me pierced now (as an adult) it would be assault. But she could have done it to me as a baby/child and that would be fair game? It’s illogical.

Nextyearhopes · 30/12/2024 21:12

Not unreasonable at all. It looks horrible and chavvy on tiny children. A baby is beautiful as she is, she doesn’t need decorating like a doll.

Kitkat1523 · 30/12/2024 21:12

OhSoYouAreFancy · 30/12/2024 20:29

I imagine as she gets older she will be singled out for it rather than fitting in, no other parents at the school would be so stupid/shallow/cheap.

You are wrong here….most girls get theirs pierced at age 5 to 6 here….and not uncommon to get a second piercing around 9 to 10. I wouldn’t do it, but I wouldn’t let it bother me if it were my DGD🤷‍♀️

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