Anyone else hate the expectation to shave down there?

[BearDownThere]

Is anyone else fed up of the expectation/strong preference for going completely shave pubic hair? I’m female and have only had male partners, but prepared to believe women have this expectation too if others have experienced it. I mean each to their own, but personally I find it feels child-like. Has anyone managed to find a compromise with their partner on this?

YABU- It’s nice to do things for your partner

YANBU-my hair my choice

Porn in the 80s/90s did not feature shaven or trimmed pubic regions. It is purely a fashion/trend not porn driven.

As has been said many people don't like great big bushy areas when they are having oral sex. It's an aesthetic thing. Bit like you wouldn't like a pube in your sandwich would you?

I hear u however pubic hair smells u need to be a clean person and a lot of adults struggle to bath twice a day to maintain cleanliness so forgive me but in theory it might be so but practically it’s unhygienic. Secondly as a couple u should be able to shave if a partner suggests and it makes them comfortable coz as ppl we like to hold on to our rights 2 much. I do not see anything wrong to do so if it’s makes it enjoyable for both sex is a 2 way thing

I would say African to be precise

The day I take advice on such a matter from someone who spells 'you' as 'u' will be the day I knit fog.

Same.

I'd consider it my own personal dickhead filter.

No pressure here, never has been.

I hear u however pubic hair smells u need to be a clean person and a lot of adults struggle to bath twice a day to maintain cleanliness so forgive me but in theory it might be so but practically it’s unhygienic. Secondly as a couple u should be able to shave if a partner suggests and it makes them comfortable coz as ppl we like to hold on to our rights 2 much. I do not see anything wrong to do so if it’s makes it enjoyable for both sex is a 2 way thing

I've seldom read such a ridiculous post.

Again as I said before this is not necessarily true although I know this myth keeps coming round and another person already sent me an article.
When people don't wipe regularly and don't wash daily then yes - hair will keep accumulating bacteria and dirt away from genitals. That worked very well in the past centuries when people didn't have access to running water or wet wipes or even toilet paper.
However if someone daily showers, cleans and wipes then hair will only gather fluids making it harder to wipe and clean. In that case having a lot of hair down there only makes it harder to stay hygienic, especially during menstruation.

Even if someone showers daily the hair will acumulate pee, menstrual blood and vaginal discharge during a day which will be much harder to wipe out between the showers.

The myth that pubic hair are more hygienic and keep infection away come from evolutionary perspective. It worked great in the past when people didn't shower, wipe and had no underwear.

However if someone daily showers, cleans and wipes then hair will only gather fluids making it harder to wipe and clean. In that case having a lot of hair down there only makes it harder to stay hygienic, especially during menstruation.

Oddly enough I've neve had any difficulty staying clean with hair.
That aside, shaving and maxing causes micro nicks and tears in the skin.

What? Washing makes it harder to stay clean? Rubbish.

It’s not harder to stay hygienic with pubic hair. Washing normally is all that’s needed.

removing hair damages the skin leaving abrasions where bacteria can hide. This is what makes it harder to “stay hygienic”. Normal washing doesn’t remove the hidden bacteria and can result in infection.

it’s not advised to remove pubic hair for c-sections and other surgeries due to the increased risk of mrsa, staph etc. there have been plenty of studies.

I see we’ve now descended to calling people who make the entirely personal choice not depilate dirty. Not a good look @Bibi12.

Do they actually think sweat, urine and menstrual blood just magically don't exist because the pubes don't? I mean no, that'll still be there, just sitting on the skin surface rather than the hair actually wicking it away.

I didn't say that washing makes it harder to stay hygienic.
I said if people wash and wipe daily then having pubic hair is less hygienic because it makes it harder to clean that area. For example it's much harder to clean yourself with wet wipe or toilet paper after using a loo because fluids get stuck in hair.
However, there is an evolutionary basis for pubic hair that worked very well in the past when people didn't shower, didn't wipe or had underwear. It worked as protection then.

C section is another story because you're talking about blood infection. That happens not because of lack of hair but because of skin damage. While that's another valid point I was responding to people who argued that having pubic hair in itself is more hygienic. Not because of inappropriate shaving that damages skin.

The midwife trimmed my hair before my c section by the way and It made it much easier to stay clean after.

I said if people wash and wipe daily then having pubic hair is less hygienic because it makes it harder to clean that area. For example it's much harder to clean yourself with wet wipe or toilet paper after using a loo because fluids get stuck in hair.

It doesn't though, not much harder, not even at all harder. It's pubes, not a thick tangle of brambles! I've tried all off a few times (didn't like it) and I felt less clean, not more so.

There will be less sitting there because you can easily wipe it, preferably with wet wipe. I find it much harder when blood gets stuck to my pubic hair it's more difficult to wipe.
Having pubic hair doesn't magically mean you have no fluids on your skin either. They will be on both skin and hair. Hair only wick things away if there is a lot of build up like it used to be in caveman era.

There will be less sitting there because you can easily wipe it, preferably with wet wipe.

I've never needed wet wipes to stay clean and hygienic. Maybe we're built very differently.

That's your point of view and it's great it works for you. I use wet wipes a lot and they just work better if there is no hair. Hair is much more difficult to wipe then skin.

Also the ammount and length of pubic hair varies between people.

Yes maybe we have different standards.
I don't believe you can wipe menstrual blood with toilet paper and be clean. You just think you are.

Yes maybe we have different standards.

And there it is. The implication that those with pubes have lower standards of cleanliness.

I don't believe you can wipe menstrual blood with toilet paper and be clean. You just think you are.

Clean enough for what?

Absolutely not. Hygiene standards have absolutely zero to do with whether someone has pubic hair. It's also funny that you label me when I go through phases of having hair or not having them.
However thinking that you are are somehow " build differently " and you're magically clean and smell of roses after quick wipe of menstrual blood with toilet paper means we have different standards.
I'm not just build differently. I just have different preference. Both our standards are perfectly acceptable but mine are higher, might be too high or obsessive in someone's eyes. I'm not saying I'm better.

Clean enough for nothing. I really don't care how clean you are. As long as someone doesn't smell when I stand next to them it's not of my business. I was responding to your comment that you must be build differently because you're clean after quick wipe while it's not that you're somehow build differently then me we just have different standards.

I was responding to your comment that you must be build differently because you're clean after quick wipe while it's not that you're somehow build differently then me we just have different standards.

Different people do have different builds and different strenghts of natural smell, though. No need to be upset by it, you've clearly found what works for you to control it.
Just don't assume that other people need to remove their pubes to be able to do so just because you do, and don't get upset when you're challenged on that assumption.

Do you use a bidet every time you have a shit?