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Was my Christmas Day "abstemious"?

721 replies

romanfriendsandcountrywomen · 29/12/2024 13:36

I'm a little bit nonplussed because my brother's new girlfriend apparently found Christmas Day at our house "nice but more abstemious than she's used to". However, I'm also now wondering if I was perhaps a bit boring....

Present on Xmas day : DH, me, DD (19), DS (15), my parents (late 70s), DB (43), DB newish girlfriend (30 something) my niece (DB's daughter, 16.)

People arrived at 11am. It's morning so I offered teas and proper coffees etc while we opened presents. At 12.00 I opened 2 bottles of M&S sloe gin fizz (admittedly only 4% alcohol but lovely and nicer than Buck's Fizz imo) and everyone had a glass while finishing opening the presents.

About 1.00 I we had champagne and nibbles- probably about 1.5 bottles of fizz and lots of nibbly things )

Full Xmas dinner at 3.00. (Turkey, pigs in blankets, 2 stuffings, roast potato, roast carrots and parsnips, sprouts, broccoli, cauliflower cheese, Yorkshires, Christmas pudding and chocolate log.) Opened 2 bottles of red wine.

After dinner we played games and finished off the red wine and champagne. I made the traditional Christmas snowball for the teenagers. Lots of adults had one as well despite laughing at them! (Advocat, lemonade, line juice, cocktail cherry perched artistically on top!)

About 9.00 we watched a film and had cheese. I offered to open more wine and we also offered port or baileys but people were full so most just had a cup of tea.

People went to bed or got an uber about midnight.

I thought it had been a lovely day so the abstemious comment had thrown me a bit. Girlfriend is from a bigger family with lots of siblings who all bring partners and apparently it's a more "adult" affair. She was surprised there were no spirits or cocktails as apparently she doesn't really drink wine and drinks vodka cranberry/ vodka coke. We don't drink spirits so it never occurred to me and I did wonder why she couldn't have brought her own but I haven't said anything.

So there were 7 adults and 2 teens and we had 4 bottles of wine/ fizz, a couple of bottles of low alcohol fizz and snowballs, port and baileys offered. Over 12 hours apparently this isn't a lot.

Be honest. Was my Xmas day a bit boring? I probably should have asked what she liked to drink...

OP posts:
Bey · 29/12/2024 16:04

I think it sounds like a lovely day

Disgustin · 29/12/2024 16:04

Her Christmases sound like my parents ones and that's why we (DH,DC and I) prefer that to my in laws but even yours sound better than my in laws

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 29/12/2024 16:04

Caerulea · 29/12/2024 14:55

I have a wide vocabulary thanks, but I can still recognise obnoxious useage of words that are pretty much only used in limited circumstances 🤷🏼‍♀️

Sounds like the right word to convey what she was probably trying to say. You might call her attitude obnoxious, but I don't see why the word is a problem. I'm struggling to think of another which would be as fitting tbh.

Newhi · 29/12/2024 16:05

Personally I would find it a bit dull, we don’t switch the tv on at Christmas and I can’t imagine all sitting around it on Christmas Day. Each to their own though and I’m sure a lot of people like that.

Namechangefordaughterevasion · 29/12/2024 16:06

You offered a lot more food than I would but less alcohol!

I wouldn't judge her for expecting a bit more alcohol to be offered. It's just a question of what you are used to.

We had 8 adults for the meal. One was driving so she stuck to tea, mineral water and a couple of AF cocktails. One BF turned up later in the evening and drank 0% Guinness.
Between 3.30pm and 11.30 when they left, we drank about 20 tins/bottles of beer/cider/hard seltzer, 3 bottles of red wine, a bottle of Sancerre, a couple of bottles of champagne and assorted cocktails -the younger crowd drank Margaritas made by adult DC, also G&Ts. I didn't drink until I'd finished cooking but then enjoyed a few Negronis as well as some champagne.

Like PP we didn't turn the tv on. After dinner we played Traitors, chatted and sang. It was great. And like other PP we make sure that our guests know where the glasses, drinks (alcoholic and soft) and ice are kept so that after the first couple have been served to them they know where to get top ups. It makes for a very relaxed, communal atmosphere.

We are old so wouldn't normally have cider or hard seltzer or tequila in the house but bought them in for the under thirties. What they didn't drink went home with them.

It's a lot but it was spread over a good few hours. No one was messy drunk and adult DC were up early for the gym the next day.

Hoppinggreen · 29/12/2024 16:07

I generally try and avoid people who can only equate fun with alcohol.
Nothing wrong with drinking but if you can't enjoy yourself unless you get drunk then its a bit sad.

Augustus40 · 29/12/2024 16:08

Far too much booze.

Fibe for alcoholics or heavy drinkers.

Not enough grub.

I barely drink though!

Lavenderfarmcottage · 29/12/2024 16:10

latetothefisting · 29/12/2024 15:45

OP said twice in her OP alone that there were 7 adults plus 2 older teenagers. So maybe half a bottle, which is, what, two large wine glasses each.
I don't think that is much over the course of 12 hours, particularly on Christmas day?
2/3 glasses of wine over the whole day is hardly a "substantial" amount of alcohol!

yes it was a silly oversight, I’m watching a documentary while reading this.

This sounds like the sort of family Christmas that I’ve always dreamed of.

It bothers me that people don’t realise how lucky they are.

ChristmasCwtch · 29/12/2024 16:11

Your Christmas Day sounds lovely OP!!

Poppins21 · 29/12/2024 16:16

CurlyhairedAssassin · 29/12/2024 16:03

A good guest will always anticipate that there is a small possibility the hosts may have underestimated the amount needed, or be on a very tight budget, and brought some gifts such as at least one bottle of wine, their own favourite tipple in case it's not something the host would ordinarily keep in, and some nice crackers and/or cheese, fancy crisps, mince pies or chocolates.

There will only be any awkwardness if the guest has no manners and asks for more without being offered anything when it's obvious there is no more wine or dessert etc and then gets the awkward glances or gets told there is none. As a guest if the last bit of wine had been used from a bottle I would always offer to open the one I'd brought next if I or anyone else wanted more. They can always turn it down with a "oh, no, don't worry, we've already got another 2 there. Unlese you'd prefer a change?". Gives a guest the option to open their own if what they've been served isn't to their taste. My inlaws had very sweet cheap wine at Christmas dinner for many years, I used to hate it. We started taking our own dry stuff and they thought they were being good hosts by insisting on serving theirs. 😫

They probably did not want to drink your awful dry white wine /if they like sweet white wine 😂😂

PolskiSklep · 29/12/2024 16:17

Your Christmas sounds absolutely lovely, OP. I also had a lovely, albeit quiet, Christmas at my in-laws’. Central European Christmas is rather more reserved, centred around fish and very low alcohol. No games, and even the carols were a very tasteful choral arrangement. It was extremely nice and I would never say otherwise to my lovely family, but a small bit of me yearns for a dose of festive chaos, a glass of champagne and some turkey. One day…

MarioLink · 29/12/2024 16:20

Your Christmas Day sounds great. That's way more booze than we have and a good variety too. Coffee and tea to start and end the day sounds lovely too.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 29/12/2024 16:20

Cottonheadedninhymuggins · 29/12/2024 15:29

We have an open house here for friends and family from 3 pm onwards on Christmas Day. I provide pudding, cheese and biscuits and party food as well as chocolate and magnums in the freezer. Everyone knows to bring their own required drink and pour themselves as they go. I think if you are invited somewhere you take your own drinks with you. I think what you provided was ok and she was a little rude. We drink quite a bit here in the afternoon but it’s a loud afternoon with party games, shouting at Alexa for the next song as well as the patio heater outside being on, lots of people everywhere etc. I host about 20 on CD afternoon.

Do they have a proper Christmas dinner in their own house first? I don't know anyone who has finished their Christmas Dinner early enough to go round to someone else's house for 3pm. Unless there is a general agreement amongst you all to just have a starter and mains in your own houses then come round to yours for the pudding and cheese courses?

Harassedevictee · 29/12/2024 16:20

@romanfriendsandcountrywomen your Christmas sounds absolutely lovely.

One thing I have learnt is that every family has their own Christmas format and traditions. It’s only when you spend Christmas with a partners family do you realise that not everyone celebrates Christmas the way your family does.

No one way is right or wrong just different.

GreatGardenstuff · 29/12/2024 16:20

I would describe that as a very pleasant level of indulgence. Why would you want to be drunk at someone’s family Christmas, nicely merry is definitely more enjoyable for all!

mumedu · 29/12/2024 16:21

This sounds lovely, not abstemious.

UndermyShoeJoe · 29/12/2024 16:22

GreatGardenstuff · 29/12/2024 16:20

I would describe that as a very pleasant level of indulgence. Why would you want to be drunk at someone’s family Christmas, nicely merry is definitely more enjoyable for all!

I think the people who want to be actually drunk are either bored shitless or would be drunk at any event.

IhadaStripeyDeckchair · 29/12/2024 16:22

It's sounds lovely to me.
I'm not a big drinker so leave organising alcohol to my partner.
If I had specific likes/preferences re drinks I would have taken them for the day eg vodka & mixers. I would also have taken a contribution eg nice chocs, wine etc

What did DB & GF bring to the day?

Cara707 · 29/12/2024 16:22

I would say 'how rude of her' but it does depend whether it was just your DB that she said it to.

It sounds like a lovely, sophisticated and enjoyable Christmas.

We didn't have alcohol as have a recovered alcoholic in our household- it was still fun!

creamsnugjumper · 29/12/2024 16:22

It sounds lovely!! 🥰

RampantIvy · 29/12/2024 16:26

latetothefisting · 29/12/2024 15:50

another "I don't know anyone..." er 🙄

HOW do you know what "everyone" you know drinks? I wouldn't have a scoobies whether 99% of the people I know drink vodka specifically or not.

You're saying you know the exact drinking habits, down to whether they do/don't partake in every individual spirit, of all your old uni friends, mums you chat to at the school gates, your hairdresser, your boss, all your colleagues, neighbours, extended family....?

You must have some odd conversations. I don't even know whether half the people of my acquaintance drink at all, let alone whether they like vodka but can't stand rum and what their views are on whiskey...

Just say "me, my two friends and my sister don't drink vodka so I've extrapolated that out to everyone I've ever met" if that's what you actually mean!

OK.

None of my close friends or family drink vodka. I have no idea what aquaintances I know drink because I don't drink with them.

Is that OK?

So, if I was a vodka drinker I would bring a bottle with me.

Floralnomad · 29/12/2024 16:29

Sounds fine to me , if she doesn’t want to come again nobody will force her to . FWIW I’m a total non drinker as is my husband and our adult children so nobody gets offered alcohol if they come to us because I don’t buy it . We were at my sisters Christmas Day and the only person who had a drink was my other sisters husband and my sister who was hosting very kindly provides wine etc for him .

Ooral · 29/12/2024 16:29

Loopylu60 · 29/12/2024 13:49

I wonder why your brother felt the need to pass her comments on to you?

if he knew she liked a vodka why didn’t he or she think to bring some. I hope they brought something to add to the day!

My thoughts exactly.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 29/12/2024 16:30

BIossomtoes · 29/12/2024 15:32

Sounds amazing. My kind of Christmas.

I'd provide drinks if I was hosting. But people are welcome to bring their own preferred ones if they'll only drink one type of drink and turn down everything else. I'll take whatever's on offer if I was a guest at someone's house, but I understand that some people have very specific favourite drinks sometimes eg they only drink a specific fruity cider and wouldn't drink anything else. And I can't be doing with people insisting that they will only, for eg, drink Coke Zero and so refuse a Pepsi, or the other way round. If you're that fussy bring your own specific cola. I'm too old to transporting 2 whole drinks aisles from Tescos to my house

Overlyanxiousworrier · 29/12/2024 16:30

Your Christmas sounds fantastic OP!! A really nice day. She should have brought her own drinks f it bothered her. If the comment comes again, I'd 100 percent say, we are excited to see how you do it next year - your turn!

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