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To think they should take him to the vets

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Huggyhuggy · 28/12/2024 17:55

My mum and dads dog had a full box of ‘black magic’ dark chocolates yesterday and today has vomiting, wheezing, and is laid down looking very sorry for himself but they won’t take to the vets saying none will be open now

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JubileeJuice · 30/12/2024 17:39

I once had a client who couldn't understand why her dog had constant diarrhoea. I went through every aspect of diet, no red flags (other than not feeding raw, but that's a whole other post).

Eventually I got there. Found out she'd been using raisins as training treats, so the dog had been eating hundreds a week. The dog was absolutely fine, once she stopped feeding the raisins.

Some people get absolutely hysterical over dogs consuming small amounts of things that are toxic in large quantities, or in very small dogs. Sometimes it's fine to not spend thousands at the vet, if you know how much they've had and what your dog weighs.

JubileeJuice · 30/12/2024 17:40

CrowleyKitten · 30/12/2024 17:36

sighthounds are more reactive to toxins than most breeds

I know. However, it's a lurcher so completely depends on what breeds it's made up of.

Pipconkermash · 30/12/2024 17:50

MerryMaker · 29/12/2024 18:34

Did he actually need treatment or did they just check him over?

I’d have given activated charcoal to be added to feeds, advised a gastrosensitive diet for a few days (chicken and rice) and checked obs. There would have been, due to the lapse in time between consumption and treatment, very little they could do other than fluids if he was not drinking. Very often they drink a lot when poisoned.

Jifmicroliquid · 30/12/2024 17:50

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 30/12/2024 11:47

@Jifmicroliquid when a dog comes in having eaten chocolate they're given a sickness injection (if within a reasonable time frame from ingestion) but most owners decline the fluids/drip and hospitalisation because of costs. So they're sent home with charcoal to mix in with food to absorb toxins.

I’m not sure what veterinary practice you work at but my vet friend has just told me via message how seriously they treat chocolate ingestion in dogs and they strongly advise dogs are kept in and on a drip.

ThinWomansBrain · 30/12/2024 17:55

@Sloelydoesit so sorry to hear about your dog, I hope that you're OK

OP - glad your parents dog is OK now, maybe you parents will be more careful going forward.

JubileeJuice · 30/12/2024 17:56

Pipconkermash · 30/12/2024 17:50

I’d have given activated charcoal to be added to feeds, advised a gastrosensitive diet for a few days (chicken and rice) and checked obs. There would have been, due to the lapse in time between consumption and treatment, very little they could do other than fluids if he was not drinking. Very often they drink a lot when poisoned.

Rice? Seriously?

Dogs don't have the levels of stomach enzymes needed to break down amylose in grain. Rice is inflammatory to dogs as it is, let alone if a dog is experiencing gastro issues.

Honestly, the lack of knowledge when it comes to dog nutrition from supposed medical professionals is shocking.

Huggyhuggy · 30/12/2024 18:11

JubileeJuice · 30/12/2024 17:40

I know. However, it's a lurcher so completely depends on what breeds it's made up of.

His dad is greyhound cross with deerhound and mum a whippet/greyhound x

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JubileeJuice · 30/12/2024 18:31

Huggyhuggy · 30/12/2024 18:11

His dad is greyhound cross with deerhound and mum a whippet/greyhound x

He's absolutely beautiful 😍

ThatRareUmberJoker · 30/12/2024 19:03

JubileeJuice · 30/12/2024 17:56

Rice? Seriously?

Dogs don't have the levels of stomach enzymes needed to break down amylose in grain. Rice is inflammatory to dogs as it is, let alone if a dog is experiencing gastro issues.

Honestly, the lack of knowledge when it comes to dog nutrition from supposed medical professionals is shocking.

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What do you feed your dog if you know better?

XenoBitch · 30/12/2024 19:08

JubileeJuice · 30/12/2024 17:56

Rice? Seriously?

Dogs don't have the levels of stomach enzymes needed to break down amylose in grain. Rice is inflammatory to dogs as it is, let alone if a dog is experiencing gastro issues.

Honestly, the lack of knowledge when it comes to dog nutrition from supposed medical professionals is shocking.

Edited

My vet recommends the original Chappie for tummy issues, which contain rice. Pretty much any dog food aimed at sensitive tums has rice in it.

Pupinskipops · 30/12/2024 19:22

XenoBitch · 29/12/2024 23:24

I do think people are too quick to go to the vet.
I am in a few dog groups on FB, and even the smallest little cut gets replies of "vet now!".
I just think, if it was me, what would I do. If my tummy felt a bit off, I would wait it out. I do the same for my dog.

Would you wait it out if your tummy felt off after you'd eaten a known poison, and an "off tummy" was known to be the initial symptoms, often followed by tachycardia, seizures, etc? Would you wait it out if it was your non-speaking child? Waiting it out gives the toxins time to circulate around the body. Once the dog/human shows signds that that's happened, treatment is too late.

JubileeJuice · 30/12/2024 19:32

ThatRareUmberJoker · 30/12/2024 19:03

What do you feed your dog if you know better?

Of course I know better.

I have thirty years of experience in raw feeding dogs as well as thirty years of research, attending lectures, academic study, learning from others and seeing the evidence before my eyes. Vets usually have a lecture on dog nutrition. Once.

My dogs are fed an 80:10:10 raw diet. Not one of any of my dogs has ever had to see a vet other than for puppy vaccinations or neutering.

Most vets haven't a clue about dog nutrition. Thankfully, my vet has actually researched well and is very against feeding any sort of kibble or processed crap. That's why I chose him.

Fleurdalys · 30/12/2024 19:34

@ThatRareUmberJoker
Right bloody know all aren't you?

Fleurdalys · 30/12/2024 19:35

Apologies
Meant for @ jubilee Twat

CrowleyKitten · 30/12/2024 19:45

Huggyhuggy · 30/12/2024 18:11

His dad is greyhound cross with deerhound and mum a whippet/greyhound x

you know, there's another name for that. technically still a lurcher, but lurchers that are all sighthound are Longdogs.

Mums dog is a Deerhound lurcher, who somehow has some bedlington in her too (presumably via some more in between sized breeds)
I love sighthounds. they're so beautiful

Huggyhuggy · 30/12/2024 19:48

❤️

To think they should take him to the vets
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CrowleyKitten · 30/12/2024 19:48

JubileeJuice · 30/12/2024 19:32

Of course I know better.

I have thirty years of experience in raw feeding dogs as well as thirty years of research, attending lectures, academic study, learning from others and seeing the evidence before my eyes. Vets usually have a lecture on dog nutrition. Once.

My dogs are fed an 80:10:10 raw diet. Not one of any of my dogs has ever had to see a vet other than for puppy vaccinations or neutering.

Most vets haven't a clue about dog nutrition. Thankfully, my vet has actually researched well and is very against feeding any sort of kibble or processed crap. That's why I chose him.

Mouse is raw fed too.

Fleurdalys · 30/12/2024 20:02

JubileeJuice · 30/12/2024 17:39

I once had a client who couldn't understand why her dog had constant diarrhoea. I went through every aspect of diet, no red flags (other than not feeding raw, but that's a whole other post).

Eventually I got there. Found out she'd been using raisins as training treats, so the dog had been eating hundreds a week. The dog was absolutely fine, once she stopped feeding the raisins.

Some people get absolutely hysterical over dogs consuming small amounts of things that are toxic in large quantities, or in very small dogs. Sometimes it's fine to not spend thousands at the vet, if you know how much they've had and what your dog weighs.

Well you obviously didn't go through every aspect of diet?

WombatStewForTea · 30/12/2024 20:03

JubileeJuice · 30/12/2024 19:32

Of course I know better.

I have thirty years of experience in raw feeding dogs as well as thirty years of research, attending lectures, academic study, learning from others and seeing the evidence before my eyes. Vets usually have a lecture on dog nutrition. Once.

My dogs are fed an 80:10:10 raw diet. Not one of any of my dogs has ever had to see a vet other than for puppy vaccinations or neutering.

Most vets haven't a clue about dog nutrition. Thankfully, my vet has actually researched well and is very against feeding any sort of kibble or processed crap. That's why I chose him.

Gina is that you 😂🫣

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 30/12/2024 20:04

Huggyhuggy · 30/12/2024 19:48

❤️

Awww, he's gorgeous 😍 ❤️

ABrandNewFamily · 30/12/2024 20:04

@JubileeJuice your vet sounds fab 👏🏻

JubileeJuice · 30/12/2024 20:08

Fleurdalys · 30/12/2024 20:02

Well you obviously didn't go through every aspect of diet?

You're going to be that pedantic? Really? Goodness me. The client went through every aspect of diet other than training treats 🙄 Is that clear enough for you?

JubileeJuice · 30/12/2024 20:09

ABrandNewFamily · 30/12/2024 20:04

@JubileeJuice your vet sounds fab 👏🏻

He really is absolutely wonderful.

XenoBitch · 30/12/2024 20:29

@Huggyhuggy I love that face!

B&M stock bars of dog chocolate (Scooby Doo brand) to satiate his sweet tooth.

Womanofcustard · 30/12/2024 20:38

About 25 years ago my then large dog (gs/collie) ate a whole layer of Milk Tray. Not knowing about the risks with chocolate, we did nothing. He was fine. Seems it may depend on the breed.
re RICE - rice & chicken dried are what the local sspca feed dogs!

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