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To not want to host next year because of MIL’s laziness

176 replies

pistachio83 · 27/12/2024 20:33

I am just done with it. We always host because we have space and every other family member has next to none and/or is skint. So we’re the default. And we live a few hours away so people have to stay over. We also have three young kids and two dogs. There is so much that goes into it, I won’t bother listing it all. MIL does not lift a finger the whole time unless specifically asked and SIL is preoccupied with her own small child (single mum). MIL doesn’t even really play with the kids or take them out, just sits on her phone whilst they watch tv and me and partner cook and tidy and bring out drinks. Didn’t even offer to make a cup of tea. My own parents aren’t around anymore so it’s not even possible for us to use this excuse and it’s making me miserable to think my Xmases will focused around hosting DH’s family rather than enjoying precious
Christmas’s with the kids. I barely got any pics of them this year.

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AlexaSetATimer · 27/12/2024 22:56

Hwi · 27/12/2024 22:48

Do you know what 'hosting' means? Exactly that. You invite guests and the sit on their bums whilst you are run off your feet.

Ah the martyr has arrived. Judgemental on most threads but expects women to be self sacrificing on others. Such an "interesting" poster this one HmmHmmHmm

RampantIvy · 27/12/2024 22:57

So much weaponised incompetence on this thread 😒

It is used to get out of tasks.

I would go for the quiet Christmas next year and arrange to see them before or after Christmas.

suburburban · 27/12/2024 22:57

Yes we helped at my dds house with stuff. You can have a balance

RampantIvy · 27/12/2024 22:57

So much weaponised incompetence on this thread 😒

It is used to get out of tasks.

I would go for the quiet Christmas next year and arrange to see them before or after Christmas.

Mnetcurious · 27/12/2024 22:57

Yanbu. Tell them you’re taking every other year off hosting as it’s too exhausting and you don’t get to enjoy Christmas with your children while they’re young.

Inyournewdress · 27/12/2024 22:59

Yanbu. I wouldn’t mention anything specifically about anyone not helping, I would just say at some point next year that you would like to arrange to meet them just before or after Christmas next year as you need a break from the pressure of hosting and you’d like to enjoy a Christmas at home without any of that while the kids are young. The ILs have SIL and her child who they can see at Christmas so they can still have a family Christmas and being a smaller group they should manage to accommodate themselves. Maybe it could be an alternate year thing.

DeffoNeedANameChange · 27/12/2024 23:07

pistachio83 · 27/12/2024 22:34

@DeffoNeedANameChange did you cook a Xmas lunch? I feel things are going this way already

I did, but only one course, bisto gravy, frozen veg (as in, prepared veg that I then cooked - I didn't serve it up frozen!) and then shop bought xmas pudding. And I didn't do loads of expensive snacks/appetisers - just crisps and nuts.

It was good enough for me! Honestly, it was a perfectly acceptable Xmas dinner at home from someone who hates cooking....

RampantIvy · 27/12/2024 23:12

Sorry about the double post. My internet had a moment.

Lucyccfc68 · 27/12/2024 23:15

No idea why people put up with this shit. Years ago, I hosted for my family and they were all told beforehand what they were expected to contribute. DF was on veg and spud prep, I was cooking, DSIS setting the table, DM clearing up the table after and taking stuff in the kitchen for ex-DH to wash. Myself and DSIS drying pots and putting away. In between, we were all looking after the 2 children (my DS and Nephew).

My DM had been a bit of a nightmare for a while and when she arrived, she point blank told me that she was not helping with anything and I couldn’t make her. I just calmly told her that if she wasn’t going to chip in and work with everyone else to make it a nice day and share the load, then she could go home, as I wasn’t cooking for her. She basically told me to piss off and that she wasn’t helping. I pointed to the door and told her to leave.

When I was dishing up, my DF asked me to do her a plateful of food that he could take home for her! My response - I’m not rewarding that shitty behaviour - she can sort herself out.

I really don’t know why people put up with this type of crap. If you want help or assistance, make it clear up front. If you are hosting a big group, then be very clear what you expect. It doesn’t have to be done in a rude way, but if people know what your expectations are, then that is half the battle. Stick to your boundaries and don’t let people take the piss.

It’s the same every year on here - families, In-laws and husbands all taking the piss and women just putting up with it. It will be the same people moaning again next year.

sweatband · 27/12/2024 23:29

Next year no more, I've had an almost identical Christmas to you and it's not happening again

Guest100 · 27/12/2024 23:33

If SIL is away next year you will be guilted into hosting again. I think you should just not cook a fancy lunch. Make a couple of salads and cut up some ham. Ask MIL to bring something like cold cut up chicken. Have everything ready to put in the table

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 27/12/2024 23:34

I think you need to tell people to help themselves to teas and coffees and say 'who's free to do the washing up'

mondaytosunday · 28/12/2024 00:22

Well I would not expect nor want my MIL to do much! While keeping an eye on the kids would be helpful I do not expect her to help in the kitchen at all. She's done her bit now's the time to do for her. And I'm a single mum so didn't even have a DH to help as he passed when my kids were young.

pistachio83 · 28/12/2024 06:58

@mondaytosunday she didn't occupy the kids beyond turning on the tv and she has never done her bit if you scroll

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Powderblue1 · 28/12/2024 07:36

OP, make a plan for next year now. The last 3 years we have spent d Xmas day just us and then we have the big family get together on Boxing Day. Then everyone gets to do what they prefer for the actual Xmas day. Is this an option for them to come stay. Boxing Day night instead and just do a buffet tea?

pistachio83 · 28/12/2024 08:58

@sweatband sucks doesn't it, also saying 'never again'

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user1492757084 · 28/12/2024 09:13

MIL won't do anything unless asked so ... ask her.
Start by asking her to bring certain things with her to contribute - practical helpful things like, pudding, salad, all the drinks, the bon bons.
Then have a list of what each adult will do in preparation, and after the meal.

MIL might be down for setting the table, helping dish up the roast, gathering the children and afterwards - making a large pot of tea.
You could choose to have a tea and coffee bench set up so that each person goes and makes their own hot drink therefore eliminating the need for you to make hot drinks for anyone.
Make things simple for yourself by ..
using paper plates.
DH cooking some food (all the fish) outside on the BBQ.
asking the kids to organise the present opening.

If you cancel next year, do so fairly soon so MIL can book into the local Hotel with SIL for dinner.

You only invite the three extra guests so you should be able to do exactly what you like with your children if you can organise MIL to help cater for herself more..

curious79 · 28/12/2024 09:13

I have this issue with my house. My Dad is doing f’all and my sister abdicates all responsibility for her son while here. Basically they’re treating it as a break / a holiday. And we’ve let it become that.

I’m wondering what the solution is - I also like everyone being here in part and the kids are having a laugh

Shinyandnew1 · 28/12/2024 09:30

mondaytosunday · 28/12/2024 00:22

Well I would not expect nor want my MIL to do much! While keeping an eye on the kids would be helpful I do not expect her to help in the kitchen at all. She's done her bit now's the time to do for her. And I'm a single mum so didn't even have a DH to help as he passed when my kids were young.

I’m not sure she has ‘done her bit’ didn’t the OP say she always went to the grandparents for Xmas until OP started hosting?

What’s your plan for next year now, @pistachio83 ?What will you do now your sister in law is probably going abroad? That suggests she isn’t perhaps as skint as she makes out?! Be careful that you don’t get guilt-tripped into hosting your MIL who will be alone when your SIL goes abroad. Be also careful that your SIL’s ‘abroad plans’ don’t materialise or fall through so she has nowhere to go at the last minute and it’s too late for either of them to buy food in…

DemelzaandRoss · 28/12/2024 09:34

I’ve done nearly 50 years of hosting Xmas dinner for varying numbers of people.
If I ever get invited out I’ll be putting my feet up for sure.

TheNoisyGoose · 28/12/2024 09:52

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pistachio83 · 28/12/2024 09:55

@user1492757084 I think that level of micro management might be too much of a leap from where we are now. I have 3 kids under 4 so I don't have a lot of headspace to manage fully grown adults. I did do a bit of this this year but it felt like once they had done their bits that this gave them carte Blanche to sit firmly on their arses for 3 days

I realised it's untenable, getting up early with kids, cooking all the food, keeping place tidy, then spending 1-2 hours doing bed time, I don't have energy left after so go straight to bed so I don't get the adult side of Xmas whereas the family stay up till late drinking. DH and I share everything equally btw so that isn't an issue. I have had every nursery/playgroup bug going so that hasn't helped my energy levels in run up to Xmas - what a magical time of year!!

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pistachio83 · 28/12/2024 09:58

@DemelzaandRoss power to you sister absolutely

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pistachio83 · 28/12/2024 10:13

@Shinyandnew1 yes I'd say she hasn't ever really done her bit and certainly not when she had young children

@curious79 yes it's tough because I do like to company especially SIL, but the habits feel hardwired, from a time when we didn't have kids and had the time and energy

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