DH is a Freemason and it makes me cringe

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He takes it so seriously. He's always gone through hobby phases but he's done this for years now and takes it very seriously. He's currently on the phone discussing 'Bretheryn' and it gives me the major ick, I actually want to cry listening to it.

I've tried to stand by him as he takes it so seriously so i attend events and smile encouragingly but I can't bear it. Never knew when I married him that he wanted to do this. It's not the worst thing he could do of course but it's an old boys club and we're only in our 30s!

He has lots of friends and other hobbies so it's not even his only social outlet, no idea why he needs this in his life and treats it like a second job.

Pretty serious allegations- do you have evidence of that you could back up your case with in court?

Yes! Major dick swinging among a bunch of blokes deluding themselves they're powerful nen and in charge of something.

I'm not usually judgemental of other people's hobbies but there's something distasteful about this business, namely, the things quoted above!

Where did you read this exactly?

I’m guessing from what you’ve said they committed the type of crime which would mean that most people with a moral compass would discontinue their social relationship with them?

Obviously the Freemasons didn’t “protect” him from going to prison like some on this thread are claiming they do to their own. Not that they could do so.

The Freemasons I know who have been to prison were not convicted of major or awful crimes.

Nah. I know some Freemasons. They are EXACTLY like Farage, sweaty, beery, privileged Brexiters and boring as fuck while being overly concerned with briefcases containing white leather aprons and letter openers ( sorry, I mean ‘swords’)

Most masons I know are working class
its a popular misconception that it’s people in authority I’m a tradesman and I’m one.

I’m certainly not arguing that there are some misogynistic twats in the FM. I’ve had stand up arguments with some. But far more common are some who are highly intelligent individuals who are very supportive esp of women with a scholarly interest that crosses over with some of there’s (my experience though is skewed to certain Freemasons though).

In spades. The ones I know are lawyers and apparently it’s the done thing if you went to certain boarding schools followed by certain universities then certain chambers…

one presumes based on what you say that they would then fit in with modern times ?

ah yes, scholarly women, always worth supporting 😅😅😅😅😅😅

I think a big part of the problem in understanding the freemasons is that the organisation is large and has spanned time.

What is true in one area, or at one time frame, may not be true in another area or at another time

So in one area the lodge may comprise of 70 year old men that have never put a foot wrong and who spend all their time raising money for the local dementia service.

In another area the lodge may be corrupt. In another area or at another time there may be sexual goings on, abuse or cover-ups.

There's also likely to be be different perceptions.and.experieinces at different levels of the organisation.

Its like the church of England - it is true that in some areas and at certain times in history, members raise money for charity, do good deeds, run Sunday schools and support the community. It's also true that in some areas and at certain times in history there has been abuse, corruption, and criminality.

It is not a case that one person is right about the freemasons and another is "spouting rubbish". It's very possible that everyone is right.

That’s prob more to do with your social circle than the masons.

This. My friends husband was at a level 9-10 and honestly she said it was getting scary. And he was quiet afraid in the end so he ended up leaving. He told her not the speak to certain people after he left. He is still apparently shaken.

The best description I can come up with is a brown wallabee shoe. It's very unpleasant

dont you mean the church ?

So what you’re saying is that in an extremely large organisation there are certain bad apples? That this is just a reality of all large, old organisations rather than being indicative of the organisation itself.

Aprons are material btw. I've never seen a sword 😆 Husband is anti brexit and a lib dem. Beery but not sweaty. Boring..occasionally.

This is like freemason bingo isn't it?

White glove
Police
Briefcase
Charity
Lodges
Ladies nights
Widows
Grandmaster flash
Trouser leg
Secrets
Oaths
Allegiance
Hanky on head
Secret handshake

No Freemason would protect a brother it goes against the tenants of the society

I've never seen a sword

My father is a member of the Ministry of Funny Handshakes and he has one. Knights Templar lodge don't you know. 😁😁

I don't think everyone is right. I think some on here have vivid imaginations 😄but yes, I agree with the premise that any organisation will have variations due to demographics of membership.

I am anti Church because of my experiences however I recognise that there are a lot of good people with genuine purpose in churches. I often liken church to freemasonry. It's similarly prone to hierarchy, ritual, blind faith and duty, kindness, good deeds and misunderstanding with an unhealthy element of people using it as a cover for wrong doing

I assume you mean 9th degree -what Rite? It sounds like he was fairly advanced/experienced in Masonry - maybe he couldn’t cope with the more intellectual side of things or the self improvement

Aye so he did

Ewwww!

Reports ? Must be true then!!

Don’t forget the orgies and “terrifying” oaths lol. I really can’t believe how many buy into conspiracy theories lol.