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DH is a Freemason and it makes me cringe

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YerJokin · 27/12/2024 15:44

He takes it so seriously. He's always gone through hobby phases but he's done this for years now and takes it very seriously. He's currently on the phone discussing 'Bretheryn' and it gives me the major ick, I actually want to cry listening to it.

I've tried to stand by him as he takes it so seriously so i attend events and smile encouragingly but I can't bear it. Never knew when I married him that he wanted to do this. It's not the worst thing he could do of course but it's an old boys club and we're only in our 30s!

He has lots of friends and other hobbies so it's not even his only social outlet, no idea why he needs this in his life and treats it like a second job.

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Aulddeacon · 30/12/2024 22:05

Username056 · 30/12/2024 22:00

Were they successful businessmen and senior policemen before joining the Freemasons? or did other Masons give them a helping hand in getting work/jobs in front of equally qualified/able non Masons?

are you really nieve enough to think only police and high up business men are masons
im a tradesman from a ship building town and most of the masons are from the ship yards

Aulddeacon · 30/12/2024 22:11

SavingTheBestTillLast · 30/12/2024 22:05

No
I looked at quite a number of them on the CC. All of the ones I looked at were ones that made a lot of money…. I didn’t cherry pick them because they fitted my narrative I picked them because they had the highest incomes. I didn’t know what I was going to find. I was just interested.

One of them was called Grand Lodge,

The figures are not made up.!
Everyone can check out any charity they want on CC and follow the paper trail through to an individual charities work, criteria etc. from other website / source information or even a FOI request.
Financial information is there for who ever wants to do the research and the maths.
Which is what I did.
Rather that just saying that’s rubbish, you’re talking nonsense etc. What does that prove……absolutely nothing.

Ive tried to be informative on the basis MNs are usually interested in facts and proof.
Hopefully some MNs on here don’t run from that and have found it interesting.

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I never said the figures were made up but by you own admission you never included them all so you did cherry pick and by doing so gave inaccurate information and wasting everyone’s time.
so you post are not accurate or facts please stop wasting our time

SavingTheBestTillLast · 30/12/2024 22:14

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No I did not accuse them of being anti catholic.
I specifically said the Catholic Church do not approve of the FMs, not the other way round.
Others have made this incorrect assumption re the RCC and FM .

This thread is about the FM.
Ill see you over on a thread re RCC if you want to start one, happy to talk if everyone is polite and comments aren’t diminished and there’s no bullying ( I had enough of that crap at school thanks )

I don’t do witch hunts though and I absolutely detest the sexist angle of the phrase

SavingTheBestTillLast · 30/12/2024 22:18

Aulddeacon · 30/12/2024 22:05

are you really nieve enough to think only police and high up business men are masons
im a tradesman from a ship building town and most of the masons are from the ship yards

User is referring to a pp re some FMs who were in high up fields. It’s a direct question

Aulddeacon · 30/12/2024 22:19

SavingTheBestTillLast · 30/12/2024 22:18

User is referring to a pp re some FMs who were in high up fields. It’s a direct question

Read the post no she’s not

Feelingathomenow · 30/12/2024 22:19

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SavingTheBestTillLast · 30/12/2024 22:20

SavingTheBestTillLast · 30/12/2024 22:14

No I did not accuse them of being anti catholic.
I specifically said the Catholic Church do not approve of the FMs, not the other way round.
Others have made this incorrect assumption re the RCC and FM .

This thread is about the FM.
Ill see you over on a thread re RCC if you want to start one, happy to talk if everyone is polite and comments aren’t diminished and there’s no bullying ( I had enough of that crap at school thanks )

I don’t do witch hunts though and I absolutely detest the sexist angle of the phrase

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Ps.
I recall questioning someone using the term witches circle, not applauding it.

Username056 · 30/12/2024 22:24

Aulddeacon · 30/12/2024 22:05

are you really nieve enough to think only police and high up business men are masons
im a tradesman from a ship building town and most of the masons are from the ship yards

I don’t think I’m particularly naive.

I was asking a question of a previous poster regarding the people she knows who are Freemasons, who are also successful businessmen and senior policemen.

It was a polite question.

Why so aggressive?

Cricketmadmum · 30/12/2024 22:27

Feelingathomenow · 30/12/2024 17:27

You’re seem to be surprised at people defending an institution that has been slagged off through this thread. Would you rather people didn’t point out the many lies on here?

ah, too arrogant to apologise for your false accusation…what a surprise!

Feelingathomenow · 30/12/2024 22:29

Cricketmadmum · 30/12/2024 22:27

ah, too arrogant to apologise for your false accusation…what a surprise!

Quick to jump in with a personal attack on a conversation you’re not involved with - what a surprise - yawn.

Feelingathomenow · 30/12/2024 22:30

SavingTheBestTillLast · 30/12/2024 22:20

Ps.
I recall questioning someone using the term witches circle, not applauding it.

That certainly wasn’t the impression you made

Aulddeacon · 30/12/2024 22:30

Username056 · 30/12/2024 22:24

I don’t think I’m particularly naive.

I was asking a question of a previous poster regarding the people she knows who are Freemasons, who are also successful businessmen and senior policemen.

It was a polite question.

Why so aggressive?

Because it’s been well documented on this thread that masons come from all walks of life.
And to not help each other for better jobs the welders platers burners who work in all weather will tell you that

Cricketmadmum · 30/12/2024 22:33

Feelingathomenow · 30/12/2024 22:29

Quick to jump in with a personal attack on a conversation you’re not involved with - what a surprise - yawn.

It wasn’t me who started the personal attacks 😂

Feelingathomenow · 30/12/2024 22:34

Cricketmadmum · 30/12/2024 22:33

It wasn’t me who started the personal attacks 😂

Nor me, there’s been plenty aimed at me throughout this thread

Mrswhatsit40 · 30/12/2024 23:49

I’ve just caught up with this thread and can only say my initial response at the start stands. I think Freemasonry itself it’s harmless and some of the responses on here sound bonkers and extremely ignorant.

I guess people really do fear what they don’t understand.

Imo posters such as Feelingathomenow JamesPeterson & Aulddeacon have made detailed and measured responses to some perfectly silly remarks and unsubstantiated claims.

Its so obvious many posters are just parroting things they’ve “heard”.

Do we not think if the Masons we’re so corrupt and dodgy there’d be evidence and big court cases? Obvs there will be some bad people in the masons like any society. Dh just told me he went to a couple of gatherings in the 80’s and was offered drugs by one of the members but that isn’t a reflection on the society itself, probably more that it was the 80’s and the guy had some spare coke!

One of the aspects I like the most is that it’s single sex - why on earth shouldn’t it be? Single sex groups are important - I belong to an all female running group and I’d be extremely pissed off if any men tried to infiltrate. Are posters seriously saying there shouldn’t be ANY single sex clubs?

If the OP who posed the initial thread feels her dh is letting it take over his life then that’s obviously problematic and needs addressing - but seeing as she hasn’t been back I wonder if it was just an attempt at Mason-bashing!

I think it all sounds quite interesting and I can definitely understand the reasons people want to join - when I went to church it was like having extended family and they really looked after us when my df died. I don’t see any difference between the masons and the rituals of the church tbh. But being religious is widely accepted and seen as normal.

As is worshipping a football/sports team or going cycling and spending a lot of time/money on that. Why is a man in a silly Lycra outfit any more acceptable than heraldic robes 😂? At least masons aren’t a pain in the arse on the roads!

Abhannmor · 31/12/2024 00:31

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You complain about being labelled anti Catholic. Followed swiftly by a torrent of anti Catholic bile. Plus ca change.

SavingTheBestTillLast · 31/12/2024 01:13

HollyKnight · 28/12/2024 18:48

What is wrong with them helping their own members? I have been a member of the RCN for a long time. They've given me money towards courses and things over the years. It's kind of the point of being a paid member of something. You don't just give them money and never expect anything in return.

The point of a charity though is to not be self serving.
You shouldn't actually expect anything in return

IdylicDay · 31/12/2024 01:21

SavingTheBestTillLast · 31/12/2024 01:13

The point of a charity though is to not be self serving.
You shouldn't actually expect anything in return

They don't claim to be a charity though. Charity is just something they do sometimes, its not who they are.

HollyKnight · 31/12/2024 01:25

SavingTheBestTillLast · 31/12/2024 01:13

The point of a charity though is to not be self serving.
You shouldn't actually expect anything in return

I dont agree in this case. Part of being a member of the FM is that they will help you if you need it. That's part of being a community. They aren't standing on street corners with buckets taking money from the general public then spending it on themselves. The money they raise comes from their own members and is used to help both their own members and others.

HollyKnight · 31/12/2024 01:27

The raise money for charity and they give to charity, but they aren't a charity. They are a club in which you pay a fee to be part of.

SavingTheBestTillLast · 31/12/2024 01:28

HollyKnight · 31/12/2024 01:25

I dont agree in this case. Part of being a member of the FM is that they will help you if you need it. That's part of being a community. They aren't standing on street corners with buckets taking money from the general public then spending it on themselves. The money they raise comes from their own members and is used to help both their own members and others.

Holly.
Iwas running through the entire thread looking for something else and spotted your comment and commented. Then noticed I’d commented before.
I disagree with you
but apologies for tagging your post a second time

SavingTheBestTillLast · 31/12/2024 01:29

HollyKnight · 31/12/2024 01:27

The raise money for charity and they give to charity, but they aren't a charity. They are a club in which you pay a fee to be part of.

The Freemasons ( of which there are many ) are a Charity with all the associated benefits.
They are registered on the CC

SavingTheBestTillLast · 31/12/2024 01:29

IdylicDay · 31/12/2024 01:21

They don't claim to be a charity though. Charity is just something they do sometimes, its not who they are.

They do.
They have registered Charity numbers

SavingTheBestTillLast · 31/12/2024 01:32

Here’s page 1 of many
by just putting in the word Freemasons on the commission website

DH is a Freemason and it makes me cringe
IdylicDay · 31/12/2024 01:32

Yes but the charity is a side issue. Its not their main purpose.

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