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DH is a Freemason and it makes me cringe

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YerJokin · 27/12/2024 15:44

He takes it so seriously. He's always gone through hobby phases but he's done this for years now and takes it very seriously. He's currently on the phone discussing 'Bretheryn' and it gives me the major ick, I actually want to cry listening to it.

I've tried to stand by him as he takes it so seriously so i attend events and smile encouragingly but I can't bear it. Never knew when I married him that he wanted to do this. It's not the worst thing he could do of course but it's an old boys club and we're only in our 30s!

He has lots of friends and other hobbies so it's not even his only social outlet, no idea why he needs this in his life and treats it like a second job.

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BoundaryGirl3939 · 27/12/2024 20:27

Pickles2025 · 27/12/2024 20:22

the same could be said about why people go to church etc if they enjoy it then why not ?

When I go to church (a Catholic one), there is nothing secretive about it. Anyone can walk in and see what's going on. It's not a secret. All are welcome and the door is open. I can go anonymously. I don't have to sign in. No one is keeping tabs on me. It's not a club.

BoundaryGirl3939 · 27/12/2024 20:28

BIossomtoes · 27/12/2024 20:27

My dad was invited to join them by his boss. He hated the whole thing with a passion and so politely declined. He was then subjected to horrific bullying to the point whereby he had to change his job. No way was I going to be with a man who was a Freemason after that. It would have felt like a betrayal

Gosh.

Plastictrees · 27/12/2024 20:29

Pickles2025 · 27/12/2024 20:23

but where is the misogyny ?

…why aren’t women allowed to join, for a start.

Maybe just read the thread.

LBFseBrom · 27/12/2024 20:29

Pickles2025 · 27/12/2024 20:23

but where is the misogyny ?

They are all men, women not allowed; they have patronising 'Ladies Nights' every year which cost a bomb and the women have to be dressed up to the nines, as if they were going to the Oscars.

I would rather go to a charity ball fundraiser, at least men and women are equal.

SavingTheBestTillLast · 27/12/2024 20:30

TeabySea · 27/12/2024 20:25

Very true. A friend of mine's late father was a member of a lodge. When he died, they dictated a whole load of 'rules' she had to follow for his funeral and wake to ensure that it afforded the lodge the appropriate respect and standing. And she had to fund it all, as well as make a donation to them. They didn't cough up anything.

Was it in his will. Is that why they felt they could dictate to her

Annabella92 · 27/12/2024 20:31

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 27/12/2024 16:25

It’s a cult.

Walk away. You’ll be next.

"You'll be next"?! Sounds ominous, what do you mean?

CurledUpLikeADog · 27/12/2024 20:32

Doggymummar · 27/12/2024 15:47

My ex was too. We divorced the year he became Master of the Lodge. Giving away his wages and out 5 nights a week to lodge practice did for us.

What do they practice? I really don’t understand what this involves.

Mischance · 27/12/2024 20:33

They're great people and the misconception on MN are clear. Calling it a cult is extremely offensive Oh it is a cult - the stuff I cleared out from my FIL's flat after his death shows that very clearly.

Pickles2025 · 27/12/2024 20:34

Plastictrees · 27/12/2024 20:29

…why aren’t women allowed to join, for a start.

Maybe just read the thread.

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personally i prefer proper factual information rather than hearsay perspectives from fellow mumsnetters, as lovley as they are what people think about x groups etc can be different than what actually is true

AnarchismUK · 27/12/2024 20:34

So much bull on this thread. DH has been one for donkey's years. He has a full meeting once a month, one rehearsal and one lodge of instruction. That's three nights a month. I never attend any functions due to ill health but when I did it was twice a year...a night planned by the Master's wife that year and the festive board.
When I was seriously ill (I have a life limiting condition) they were and continue to be, incredibly generous financially, even gifting us a holiday and a scholarship to DS.
Unless your DH is a member of multiple lodges something doesn't add up.

LBFseBrom · 27/12/2024 20:35

TeabySea · Today 20:25
Very true. A friend of mine's late father was a member of a lodge. When he died, they dictated a whole load of 'rules' she had to follow for his funeral and wake to ensure that it afforded the lodge the appropriate respect and standing. And she had to fund it all, as well as make a donation to them. They didn't cough up anything.
...
That didn't happen when my father in law died. I think my mother-in-law received a card from the lodge and from then on they sent her a cheque every year, not huge but something. The funeral was like anyone else's funeral, masons had nothing to do with it.

Your friend's mother could have refused, surely.

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 27/12/2024 20:35

My dad's a Freemason. I've been to their events for 30 years. Absolutely nothing sinister, all very much about friendship and charity work. I would be very happy for my husband to join the craft.

Pickles2025 · 27/12/2024 20:36

people slate the freemasons, but at least the organisation does not have the reputation that the church does of some of its various members so overall the freemasons are more holy than the church

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 27/12/2024 20:37

AnarchismUK · 27/12/2024 20:34

So much bull on this thread. DH has been one for donkey's years. He has a full meeting once a month, one rehearsal and one lodge of instruction. That's three nights a month. I never attend any functions due to ill health but when I did it was twice a year...a night planned by the Master's wife that year and the festive board.
When I was seriously ill (I have a life limiting condition) they were and continue to be, incredibly generous financially, even gifting us a holiday and a scholarship to DS.
Unless your DH is a member of multiple lodges something doesn't add up.

This sounds like the freemasonry I know

SavingTheBestTillLast · 27/12/2024 20:37

AnarchismUK · 27/12/2024 20:34

So much bull on this thread. DH has been one for donkey's years. He has a full meeting once a month, one rehearsal and one lodge of instruction. That's three nights a month. I never attend any functions due to ill health but when I did it was twice a year...a night planned by the Master's wife that year and the festive board.
When I was seriously ill (I have a life limiting condition) they were and continue to be, incredibly generous financially, even gifting us a holiday and a scholarship to DS.
Unless your DH is a member of multiple lodges something doesn't add up.

This is an example of the charity giving
Part of the 80% given to their own

Im not knocking you receiving the gifts btw. However others talk of all the charity work when actually it’s tax avoidance given back to their own

Another example in LBFs post re payments to a widow of a mason

TeabySea · 27/12/2024 20:38

SavingTheBestTillLast · 27/12/2024 20:30

Was it in his will. Is that why they felt they could dictate to her

I don't know. It was a pretty traumatic time for her and I think she felt steamrollered into it, having fallen out with a sibling at the time about the best way to treat him during end of life care.

YourShyTraybake · 27/12/2024 20:38

They do a lot for charity etc, it's hardly the illumnati. Do you have hobbies?

Pickles2025 · 27/12/2024 20:39

SavingTheBestTillLast · 27/12/2024 20:37

This is an example of the charity giving
Part of the 80% given to their own

Im not knocking you receiving the gifts btw. However others talk of all the charity work when actually it’s tax avoidance given back to their own

Another example in LBFs post re payments to a widow of a mason

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even if its tax related, basically no different than amazon etc

Plastictrees · 27/12/2024 20:39

Pickles2025 · 27/12/2024 20:34

personally i prefer proper factual information rather than hearsay perspectives from fellow mumsnetters, as lovley as they are what people think about x groups etc can be different than what actually is true

I think this is the issue - the lack of transparency around the organisation and what the facts actually are. What do these ‘secrets’ consist of. Reports tend to vary wildly, from it being cult like, full of bigotry and bullying to it being a harmless hobby for men to feel connected. I think where there’s secrecy there can often be a lack of governance which is problematic in many ways.

YourShyTraybake · 27/12/2024 20:40

Pickles2025 · 27/12/2024 20:36

people slate the freemasons, but at least the organisation does not have the reputation that the church does of some of its various members so overall the freemasons are more holy than the church

There are bad examples in groups everywhere hate to break it to you. One example a woman in a group I go to for afterschool activities used to hit her kids. Does that mean all mummies are bad now?

YourShyTraybake · 27/12/2024 20:40

Plastictrees · 27/12/2024 20:39

I think this is the issue - the lack of transparency around the organisation and what the facts actually are. What do these ‘secrets’ consist of. Reports tend to vary wildly, from it being cult like, full of bigotry and bullying to it being a harmless hobby for men to feel connected. I think where there’s secrecy there can often be a lack of governance which is problematic in many ways.

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Come on it's hardly assassin's creed. It's years since they operated like that.

Pickles2025 · 27/12/2024 20:41

YourShyTraybake · 27/12/2024 20:40

There are bad examples in groups everywhere hate to break it to you. One example a woman in a group I go to for afterschool activities used to hit her kids. Does that mean all mummies are bad now?

hyperbole logic

SavingTheBestTillLast · 27/12/2024 20:41

TeabySea · 27/12/2024 20:38

I don't know. It was a pretty traumatic time for her and I think she felt steamrollered into it, having fallen out with a sibling at the time about the best way to treat him during end of life care.

If it was in the will I suppose there wouldn’t be a lot she could do. If it wasn’t then quite disgraceful the Lodge felt they could dictate anything to do with someone’s funeral.

Pickles2025 · 27/12/2024 20:42

YourShyTraybake · 27/12/2024 20:40

Come on it's hardly assassin's creed. It's years since they operated like that.

mind you, i do prefer the templar style of govt, with the assassins its to risky

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