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Emetophobia - gonna get flamed...

170 replies

Dunnoburt · 25/12/2024 22:25

Myself, partner and 8 year old have my parents over in their 70s for Christmas..... my mum has been sick 4 times in the last 3 hours, once over herself (and she's so fucking passive that she didn't even tell me she had put clothes and cleaning up paper in the bin ...😫) .....I have crippling and I mean crippling emetophobia.......why does nobody understand that I now can't touch anything.... I'm terrified... I've been told to calm the fuck down, shut the fuck up, grow up, in a logical brain, yes.....absolutely..... but I can't help it.....I CANNOT HELP IT.....all I can now think about is everything that has been touched, transferred etc and that everyone is going to catch it...... And all I really want to do is give my mum a fucking cuddle and make sure she's OK because feeling sick is just the fucking worst......she won't tell.me the truth because she's the only one who actually takes my phobia seriously....hence the hiding in the bin etc. It's definitely a bug as she doesn't drink and has eaten everything we all have today...........give my fucking head a wobble mumsnet. Just wish I didn't have this fucking phobia....its like a chain around my neck.

OP posts:
Jaehee · 26/12/2024 20:57

Ohwtfnow · 26/12/2024 20:29

Oh wow, I have never been able to burp unless I am retching! Food/drink repeats on me by sending little annoying air bubbles up, but it never comes out as a proper burp. I have no idea how to burp at all.

That's what happens to me, gurgly air bubbles constantly and as the day goes on I start to feel like my throat is getting tighter. Sometimes it's accompanied by the sensation of something pressing against my diaphragm (which I assume is related to my stomach being so full of air) and I end up with the hiccups.

OCDmama · 26/12/2024 20:58

RegulatorsMountUp · 26/12/2024 20:40

I have never ever seen or heard of another adult doing this unless alcohol is involved. Adults know if they feel sick and can take themselves off to the toilet or get a bucket ready. There is no excuse, it never comes on from feeling 100% fine to vomiting all over yourself. It just doesn't.

I've had hyperemesis gravidarum. Yes it fucking happens. And seen relatives on chemo experience this. In neither case was alcohol involved.

I've also been sick outside of pregnancy with little to no notice. I don't drink. It happens.

And anyway, what good is being cruel to someone who's poorly? What the fuck do you get out of that?

TenLittleLadybirds · 26/12/2024 21:04

I remember a poor doctor one nightshift coming down with a sickness bug very suddenly, he was sick down himself on the way to the toilets. He hadn't been drinking alcohol and he definitely knows a thing or two about illness. I felt so awful for him, he spent the rest of the night in the staff loo as felt too poorly to get home

ProfTeeCee · 26/12/2024 21:52

TenLittleLadybirds · 26/12/2024 21:04

I remember a poor doctor one nightshift coming down with a sickness bug very suddenly, he was sick down himself on the way to the toilets. He hadn't been drinking alcohol and he definitely knows a thing or two about illness. I felt so awful for him, he spent the rest of the night in the staff loo as felt too poorly to get home

Yep. When viruses like noro hit, there is often very little warning. If in a big building such as a hospital, getting to a bathroom can be a bit of a trek.

I once saw a grown man vomit onto the floor in IKEA. Poor bloke had no chance of getting to a loo 😩

CoubousAndTourmalet · 26/12/2024 22:28

I feel like this thread needs a trigger warning now with some of the newer comments which are quite graphic.

Also concerned because OP has not returned so am hoping she hasn't caught the virus.

Sleybels · 26/12/2024 22:36

I feel the title is a trigger warning. Surely anyone should know on a thread like this there will be discussions of sickness to varying degrees? I mean the OPs first post mentions her mum was sick all over herself.

TenLittleLadybirds · 26/12/2024 22:49

Sorry, I appreciate and agree that what I wrote is not nice or helpful for an emetophobe to read! I just wanted to emphasise that it wasn't that OP's mother had done anything wrong and I don't think she would have been in that state if she could have helped it.

Dunnoburt · 26/12/2024 22:50

I'm here.....overwhelmed at the responses, genuinely made me cry, I'm not alone
..... gonna type a nice long reply xx

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TenLittleLadybirds · 26/12/2024 22:53

Great to hear from you OP! Hope you and your family are doing ok xx

FishOnTheTrain · 26/12/2024 23:01

Dunnoburt · 26/12/2024 22:50

I'm here.....overwhelmed at the responses, genuinely made me cry, I'm not alone
..... gonna type a nice long reply xx

It is soooo relieving when you finally realise that you are not alone. We are all in this together!

Firenzeflower · 26/12/2024 23:06

I had this as a child and all through my teens. I don’t have it now but it was hugely debilitating.

I really feel for you. It’s about loss of control and it’s terrifying.

When my kids were little if they had a tummy bug I would buy them a present. I think half the reason I got better was that I didn’t want to pass this on to them. Hence getting a present if you’d been sick and me being very chilled out about it.
Sorry OP it so hard. X

FishOnTheTrain · 26/12/2024 23:08

Firenzeflower · 26/12/2024 23:06

I had this as a child and all through my teens. I don’t have it now but it was hugely debilitating.

I really feel for you. It’s about loss of control and it’s terrifying.

When my kids were little if they had a tummy bug I would buy them a present. I think half the reason I got better was that I didn’t want to pass this on to them. Hence getting a present if you’d been sick and me being very chilled out about it.
Sorry OP it so hard. X

That’s such a lovely idea. My mum is emet also and I picked up on her disgust whenever I was sick and she’d not come near me for days after I was sick. I’m so scared to have children because of it!

Dunnoburt · 26/12/2024 23:10

So first off.....for those that "know".....(yeah, I love ellipsis...sorry!)

My mum went to bed, she wasn't sick again, and had toast before they left to go home at 10. Nobody else has been sick. Parents are safely home and apparently well.

I am absolutely overwhelmed by the responses on here! Shameful to admit but I dealt with last night's drama by getting absolutely pissed......I have been too embarrassed to log on this morning to see the replies, glad I did. I never knew how common this phobia was! I started tearing up whilst reading them all and my "dh" asked what was wrong....so I told him....I fucking told him....I read my post and most replies.....and know what he said?...."they should all be MPs... they only know one side of the story"....I asked what he meant and he said, "well you haven't told them what you did and how you reacted just so OTT"... so.... I'm now going to UNSHAMEDLY tell you how I reacted just to prove a point to the turd.

  1. I cried
2. I shook 3. I started getting the plastic gloves/dettol out. 4. I asked my dad and my OH to go and check on my mum. 5. I sat in the car for a while. 6. I had a wee in the garden. 7. I questioned over and over and over the whole what, why, where etc.

It was all met with god stop overreacting, fucking grow up etc......

Thank you to every single one of you who has replied, I've read them all and can relate xx

So far, we are all healthy, although I've felt sick all day (placebo I'm sure), just eaten the first meal of the day and going to bed.

Merry Christmas all and thank you xxx

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CoubousAndTourmalet · 26/12/2024 23:22

@Dunnoburt I'm relieved that you're okay and glad that your Mum seems to have recovered quickly from whatever caused her sickness.

I think you'll find that we will tell you that your reaction was not OTT. Anyone with this phobia would have acted the same (I did a wee in a bucket in our garage when my DH was sick). Being told to stop overreacting/grow up is unfair and I think you're justified in being upset by that.

As you've seen, there's loads of us suffering this and taking steps to avoid certain situations because of it. It does blight your life but it's good that sharing here has given you the reassurance that you are far from being alone with this struggle.

Look after yourself and keep well xxx

BenditlikeBridget · 26/12/2024 23:23

Dunnoburt · 26/12/2024 23:10

So first off.....for those that "know".....(yeah, I love ellipsis...sorry!)

My mum went to bed, she wasn't sick again, and had toast before they left to go home at 10. Nobody else has been sick. Parents are safely home and apparently well.

I am absolutely overwhelmed by the responses on here! Shameful to admit but I dealt with last night's drama by getting absolutely pissed......I have been too embarrassed to log on this morning to see the replies, glad I did. I never knew how common this phobia was! I started tearing up whilst reading them all and my "dh" asked what was wrong....so I told him....I fucking told him....I read my post and most replies.....and know what he said?...."they should all be MPs... they only know one side of the story"....I asked what he meant and he said, "well you haven't told them what you did and how you reacted just so OTT"... so.... I'm now going to UNSHAMEDLY tell you how I reacted just to prove a point to the turd.

  1. I cried
2. I shook 3. I started getting the plastic gloves/dettol out. 4. I asked my dad and my OH to go and check on my mum. 5. I sat in the car for a while. 6. I had a wee in the garden. 7. I questioned over and over and over the whole what, why, where etc.

It was all met with god stop overreacting, fucking grow up etc......

Thank you to every single one of you who has replied, I've read them all and can relate xx

So far, we are all healthy, although I've felt sick all day (placebo I'm sure), just eaten the first meal of the day and going to bed.

Merry Christmas all and thank you xxx

Dear @Dunnoburt‘s husband,

We do get it. She overreacted, because she has a phobia. They aren’t reasonable or rational or particularly controllable responses in the moment; that’s why they’re phobias. I wonder if you’ve ever had a moment where you’ve felt completely overwhelmed or terrified or out of control? If not; then please take a minute to think about how lucky you are.

Either way, your job is to LOVE her. Is that really so hard, to love someone at their most vulnerable? I think you’re the one who should feel ashamed tbh.

Endofyear · 26/12/2024 23:27

Bless you @Dunnoburt you dealt with it as best you could and glad your mum is feeling better. Your husband doesn't sound very supportive though 😟 he needs to read and learn about phobias and extreme anxiety response.

sky1267 · 26/12/2024 23:57

Your husband is being horrible to you. He shouldn’t be talking to you and swearing at you like that? This is a real genuine phobia. I wouldn’t put up with that from a man

TenLittleLadybirds · 27/12/2024 00:02

I have also wee'd in the garden when a family member has been ill!

It's irrational behaviour (by nature of it being a phobia etc) but it's not bad behaviour, OP. I don't think anyone would truly 'get it' unless they've experienced a phobia but it's a shame he's being so unkind. It sounds like you were able to be kinder to your mum in the moment of utter panic than he has been to you.

Wishing you a better night sleep

TurkeyDinosaurs2 · 27/12/2024 00:07

Nobody really understands emetophobia unless they suffer from it, so it can be difficult to get the support you need from people around you. My DH is supportive on the most part but he still cracks the odd joke about it.

Weirdly after posting on this yesterday, last night I had D+V for the first time in years. Thankfully it was very short lived and I was fine after a couple of hours. I put my calming spa music on my Bluetooth headband and camped in the bathroom for a few hours. Was mostly D thankfully, although the nausea leading up me finally being sick wasn't pleasant. In fact the nausea was worse than the actual being sick bit. If anything that part was a massive relief and I felt loads better after, so I'm thinking it was just something I ate.

It's done me the world of good actually. Since then even though I feel a bit weak I've bounced back quite quickly, am eating and downstairs watching films with little anxiety. A couple of years ago I'd have been shaking like a leaf and not left my bed for a few days. I was quite calm throughout and I think it's because I just succumbed to it - I knew if my body wanted to throw up, it would throw up and would know how. I didn't fight it, just listened to my spa music and let my body do what it needed to do, and it would pass.

There is light at the end of the tunnel. Definitely look at getting some therapy. It's an evil phobia as you never feel like you can ever avoid it. Someone said something about a box of spiders on a previous page - an excellent description IMO.

ChiliFiend · 27/12/2024 12:01

Crunchymum · 26/12/2024 14:05

How is your mum today @Dunnoburt ? And how are you?

I've been emetophobic since I was child and for periods on my life it's been debilitating (forgoing travel as I'm too afraid to be on a plane incase someone is sick, forgoing events and nights out as I'm worried about travel sickness / someone getting too drunk and being sick). My emetophobia also manifests in others being sick and I just have a heightened awareness about it. 9 times out of 10 it doesn't come to fruition but sometimes it does and then it's in my brain. I remember a car pulling up suddenly and someone opening the door and vomiting and now 20 years later I still panic if a car pulls up somewhere suddenly!. My behaviour is dictated by my phobia in so many little ways. I don't go into places with just one exit / entrance if I can help it. I wait outside of the Dr surgery if ever I have an appointment and ask them to call me when I need to come in. I avoid anyone who has been sick, I have got off trains and tubes before my stop if someone looked a bit "peaky". The list is endless really.

I've managed to have 3 DC and my DP always used to deal with the sickness bugs. Although it doesn't always work like that? I do actually find the exposure over 3 DC / 12 years has helped me. And I did have some NHS exposure therapy just before covid.... although it was never completed and I never fully knew the end game (but my sessions took place in a Dr surgery so I was expecting someone to be fake sick in the waiting room or something like that)

I am much better now. Not anywhere near cured but I able to cope in situations that would have previously had me in flight mode (traveling alone with 3 DC for example! In fact I take the children away by myself a few times a year which is something I would have never been able to do a decade ago in case of them was travel sick or ill whilst I was on my own with them)

We had a particularly hard time in the summer with 2 out of 3 children have Norovirus and DP wasn't here. DC2 was sick / trying to be sick every 20 minutes for 8 hours. In the end I was absolutely numb to it!! I do always get that horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach when I hear the dreaded "I feel sick" (or any variation there of - tummy ache / even feeling tired or looking pale sets me on edge!!). The anticipation is worse for me.

I also have cleaning rituals and anytime one of the kids has sickness I bleach remote controls, devices, light switches, door handles, keys. Things I am convinced spread the lergie. We've never all come down with the same sickness at the same time touch wood so I keep to my ritual. I actually have a hospital grade cleaning product that kills Noro and CDiff and other nasties as well.

I totally get it. I can help my DC but I still panic with other adults. I'd be an absolute last resort to look after a poorly relative. I'd clean, I'd wash, I'd go out for medicine and supplies but I'd only be with the person if I absolutely had to.

Edited

I could have written this entire post myself, from the formative experiences (including the car pulling up and someone being sick) through to being helped by having three children. This (and the wider health anxiety) has been so hard. I look back with sadness for my younger self for all the time wasted endlessly worrying, and for what?

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